Fallout 4 goes Skyrim with infinite re-releases

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by Dragula, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Hardboiled Android

    Hardboiled Android Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 7, 2015
    What I meant was it was taken by Bethesda from Wasteland 1, given that is one of the predecessors of Fallout and I assume this is where they grabbed the direct inspiration (given Bethesda's penchant in Fo3 for copying directly from earlier games), but of course Wasteland got it from Planet of the Apes, as I said in the post right above yours.
     
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  2. Mirin Lurker

    Mirin Lurker First time out of the vault

    51
    Oct 25, 2022
    Literally everything from FO3 & 4 is from something.
     
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  3. Dragula

    Dragula Stormtrooper oTO Orderite

    Nov 6, 2008
    What?! Game devs take inspiration from other media?! Not everything they create stems from their own imagination?! This is crazy!
     
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  4. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign ⛧卐⛧ Staff Member Moderator [REDACTED]

    Apr 1, 2005
    Why are all of you old jaded autists so shocked that some young kid likes Fallout 4 every single time and act the exact same way? Fucking hell. Of course he is young. He is not 37 yet. He will get there...maybe.


    Like Fallout 1 and 2?
     
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  5. SquidWard

    SquidWard Pirate and Bankrobber oTO Orderite

    Jun 1, 2018
    It's almost like humans use other experiences and prior work and build upon that. Nothing you say is original, its essence has most likely already been stated somewhere along human history.

    There's reasons most people agree on story structures that work. A novel idea is usually one that just feels novel and probably combines many elements together.
    And this ain't even half of them. Especially if we count Fallout 2.
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  6. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Carbon Dated and Proud

    Nov 26, 2007
    The sad bit is that Bethesda has no choice but to copy Fallout's content, because they have no clue how to generate more of it. It's like they bought a tub of s.p.e.c.i.a.l. sauce that they can smear on their own work, and have it seem Fallout related, but they don't have the recipe to make more of it themselves.
     
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  7. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    They have, it's just the new stuff they came up with is really dumb like The Institute and Chidren of Atom. It just gives credence to the fact that Bethesda can't come up with actual great new stuff and thus have to resort to recycling (and make the things they recycle bad).
     
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  8. Gizmojunk

    Gizmojunk Carbon Dated and Proud

    Nov 26, 2007
    I don't agree. It seems to me that they are incapable because of a fundamental belief against it conceptually.
    —Like their own private Brawndo argument.

    We've [NMA] talked to them on Bethsoft. Pete is clueless about RPGs, Cheng is clueless about the allure of isometric games in general; him most infamously wanting Starcraft and Diablo series to switch to FPP, and tut-tut-ing Blizzard for timid [iso/3d instead of FPP] design with Diablo III. These guys are loons.

    Do you remember the SNL scene with Patrick Stewart about erotic cakes? Where Stewart's character cannot wrap his head around the value of any design not incorporating urination/defecation.... Well Bethesda has always seemed similar to me in their view of anything not in the style of FPP/TES. As though any and every design not FPP (player substitution) is inherently inferior, hands down.

    They can't do it because it doesn't even occur to them that it could have merit. Pete's own words mention Bethesda policy where the player should never make a choice with unexpected consequences (they telegraph it, so you don't have to think); yet Fallout had people replaying the game on the spot after the ending showed the reaching consequence of their careless actions.
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    Emil: I mean seriously. :(
    https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads/1up-interview-with-emil.186815/
    • "...your character in Fallout 3 is not a descendent of the Vault Dweller in any way, shape, or form. It just didn't seem necessary. We wanted to tell our own story, without too many direct ties to what had come before."
    • "...actually, there was never a draft of the story that featured a different faction -- it was always the Enclave. Why? For us, it just made so much sense."
     
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  9. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    Such an eye-rolling statement.

    Sometimes i forget that Emil is as much as a bullshitter as Todd .
     
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  10. Oregano

    Oregano First time out of the vault

    17
    Jan 22, 2018
    This isn't a re-release like the multiple versions of Skyrim, it's a free patch like the one Cyberpunk 2077 got. People who already own FO4 on the newer consoles and PC will be able to get the next-gen version without paying extra.
     
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