Fallout's been banned

Radwarrior said:
At this point I'm getting really worried that it's going to happen again. This has all the signs of another company just blazing ahead making a game without considering who's going to buy it. It's gonna be MOO3 or POS all over again, and that just bites. Dumb bastards could have enough money to fucking swim in if they would make FO3 like FO2 and so on.....But I digress...

As are many people, given what has happened.

It's really not hard to see how people would have taken that quote from Pete, even though it was misquoted. Bethesda also needs to have the balls to tell that reviewer that they will no longer be talking to them if they aren't going to bother acting like they have a brain to put the words together right with. It is as simple as that. David Adams should at least be prepared to print a retraction and make required changes to the interview, but it will likely be swept under their rug and be the media mess that is typical of IGN's collection of cretins.

PR mess? Of course. Pete should have been up the interviewer's ass after it was printed with the IGN moron's edited and mouth-stuffing version.
 
i didn't post here to fight with the forum..i posted here to clear up some b/s teatimes spreading. you can hear the real side of the story or you can follow teatime and get in my face and call me clueless either way i did what i set out to do..even though it was probably a pointless attempt.
 
I guess bethesda needs to get a firmer stance on PR, what with this 'misquote", plus the HayT incident, all that crap in the early interviews (including the abuse of too early to tell). I would really like if they came forward (even in their forums or something) and say they're sorry for the whole mess, they didn't want to announce the game just yet, etc...

Roshambo said:
Sparky, you have exactly one post to prove that you have a clue, or I'll make your presence here a temporary one.
I guess this doesn't qualify.
 
You are acting as if it's Bethesda's fault that so many people over-reacted... sorry to break the news to you but go and look at any other hundreds of games and you will find interviews exactly the same. No one ever had a problem with those interviews because people didn't go nuts over something as trivial as a single sentence in pre-production time. If you expect an apology, then don't hold your breath cause Bethesda sure won't... they are laughing too hard.
 
Well, I'm sure it's bethesda's fault that their guys overreacted, just look at HayT and the other guy who shut down all fallout discussion just because he wanted to.

Again: what i'm saying is they need to get their show together, issue orders to all their guys (even non PR people and Forum admins) on how they wish the whole fallout fanbase question to be treated.
Most of the attrition with people who work at bethsoft has, up until now, been caused by people overstepping their authority, not by the head guys, who do seem like they have a vague idea of what they're doing.
 
DMKW said:
i didn't post here to fight with the forum..i posted here to clear up some b/s teatimes spreading. you can hear the real side of the story or you can follow teatime and get in my face and call me clueless either way i did what i set out to do..even though it was probably a pointless attempt.

That's three. See how this works? I'm a man of my word. I hate it when children test my patience. Before you try to skew things, this has nothing to do with Teatime. Teatime isn't even a staff member here, so why the hell are you attributing him to this site is really beyond me. So he posts on this forum. Hey, news flash. You do to.

Well...did.

Mech said:
You are acting as if it's Bethesda's fault that so many people over-reacted... sorry to break the news to you but go and look at any other hundreds of games and you will find interviews exactly the same. No one ever had a problem with those interviews because people didn't go nuts over something as trivial as a single sentence in pre-production time. If you expect an apology, then don't hold your breath cause Bethesda sure won't... they are laughing too hard.

Pity. I remember when the exact same thing when the Ultima fans just smiled and nodded at the Ultima 8 press release. They later, when they had the game in their own hands, found out it really was as said - but the Fallout fans have been shit on twice before. And...you don't see why anyone is upset? Either you're a masochist or believe developers are small gods.

Which, I know, many people are like. They'll gobble up any offering, bitch about it, and then turn to the next shiny piece of crap. Sorry, but you'll have to build more fire-resistant straw men around here if you want to remain, kid.

As for my sig, I did that on purpose, because I wanted to show what shitty "journalism" IGN passes on as "news", without any care as to the content of the subject. I wanted the effect to be large, heartfelt, and enough of a faux pas for everyone involved to point at David Adams and say "Dumbass." If you could call it a job. What does the schmuck get, anyways? A free game every month? That doesn't buy integrity, apparently.

I would also advise that Bethesda's PR and anyone who is a dev to refrain from using "gritty" as much as possible. Every other game that claimed the same didn't quite deliver, and it was used by Interplay as a buzz-word for the Fallout universe. Frankly, "gritty" is starting to sound more like we should expect Gritty Kitty with the chewy surprises buried inside. The press releases often were.

Macaco: I would bet on the more seasoned to know how to handle this. They weathered the reception of other releases quite well. :?
 
Bethesda bought the liscence to F3, presumably to finish what the folks at Black Isle started, namely "Van Buren".

So whats with all the mystery when all they need to do is finish up the damn game.

Wait........

I am getting a feeling they want to get gimmicky.

Oh yeah and once again as I had stated in another thread. I would figure people in the PR department would always carefully choose their words, especially when it has something to do with company assets.

When PR people are careless or slip up, then obviously there will be people who demand answers. For example, look no further than the BS team Chuck tried to pass off to the public about POS.
 
Roshambo said:
That's three. See how this works? I'm a man of my word. I hate it when children test my patience. Before you try to skew things, this has nothing to do with Teatime. Teatime isn't even a staff member here, so why the hell are you attributing him to this site is really beyond me. So he posts on this forum. Hey, news flash. You do to.

Well...did.

Classic...
 
DarkCorp said:
Bethesda bought the liscence to F3, presumably to finish what the folks at Black Isle started, namely "Van Buren".
Except they did not, and said so.
 
Mech said:
You are acting as if it's Bethesda's fault that so many people over-reacted... sorry to break the news to you but go and look at any other hundreds of games and you will find interviews exactly the same. No one ever had a problem with those interviews because people didn't go nuts over something as trivial as a single sentence in pre-production time. If you expect an apology, then don't hold your breath cause Bethesda sure won't... they are laughing too hard.

I didn't see any over-reaction, we fallout fans are speaking out from *two* disapointmeants. What if someone bought the morrowind-license and made it a turn based isometric game(wich would probably just make it better anyways), ? morrowind fans wouldnt actually be *happy*...the things that is happening to fallout is worse, way worse...sometimes I get the feel that there is something or someone, possibly a god of some sort, that hate all fallout fans...WHY?...why are the fallout fanbase hated? <my new sig.
 
.sometimes I get the feel that there is something or someone, possibly a god of some sort, that hate all fallout fans...WHY?...why are the fallout fanbase hated? <my new sig.

I can tell you where we are hated. It's because we've seen the light. We've had it shoved down our throats that most game development company's are fuckin chopshops where slash and burn economics is the rule. We know this.

So when we post on other company's forums with our dark and grim reality we smear the shiny on all the little fanboys out there of other games and other development company's.

I think that right now, our attitude and gloom is even affecting some people's expections on the latest elderscrolls game. They have come into contact with us and I think our dark video-gothic outlook is contagious heh.
 
Radwarrior said:
.sometimes I get the feel that there is something or someone, possibly a god of some sort, that hate all fallout fans...WHY?...why are the fallout fanbase hated? <my new sig.

I can tell you where we are hated. It's because we've seen the light. We've had it shoved down our throats that most game development company's are fuckin chopshops where slash and burn economics is the rule. We know this.

So when we post on other company's forums with our dark and grim reality we smear the shiny on all the little fanboys out there of other games and other development company's.

I think that right now, our attitude and gloom is even affecting some people's expections on the latest elderscrolls game. They have come into contact with us and I think our dark video-gothic outlook is contagious heh.

On the count of three, i will snap my fingers and you will wake up to reality. One, two..
 
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