Fallout's transformation by Bethesda - how well-known is it?

When did Fallout gain traction in popular culture?

  • Fallout was never well-known and never will be.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Fallout was pretty well-known back then, but not today.

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Fallout was only well-known after Bethesda took over.

    Votes: 10 45.5%

  • Both Interplay and Bethesda's Fallouts were well-known.

    Votes: 10 45.5%
  • Total voters
    22
Mr Fish said:
Into an abomination.
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Abominations are the result of alien experiments on abducted humans.

Yes. Yes indeed they are. You can try to induce it with medication as much as you want (mods) but in the end, you'll only prolong its suffering. Though it pains me to see that I'm legitimately supporting Bethesda in their crimes. As stated by law:

Accessory Before the Fact:
A party who assists or encourages a principal to commit a crime, but who is not present at the time and place that the crime is committed.

An accessory before the fact is a person who encourages or aids in the commission of a felony but is not actually or constructively present at the scene of the crime at the time that the crime is being committed. In other words, an accessory before the fact provides pre-crime assistance, and only pre-crime assistance, to the criminal.
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Kinda also sucks that the criminal made off with the stolen bag of money and my money as well. Could probably be material for a new DLC, with all the pseudo mafia business happening around in the Commonwealth. Needing to deal a fatal blow to the Triggermen or something like that, only to end up becoming their Godfather at which you're given a suit (actually, a literal suit) of Power Armor. 2-XE D0 probably.
 
Plenty of old games are getting exposure thanks to Humble Bundles, GOG and Steam. Fallout and Fallout 2 would have the same cult status they have now. It's just a shame that as fans we have to put up with Bethesda's baggage as well.

Baldur's Gate fans don't have to put up with this shit.
 
Earth said:
Plenty of old games are getting exposure thanks to Humble Bundles, GOG and Steam. Fallout and Fallout 2 would have the same cult status they have now. It's just a shame that as fans we have to put up with Bethesda's baggage as well.

Baldur's Gate fans don't have to put up with this shit.
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Syndicate fans got fucked over by the EA FPS reboot and got their fix only when Satellite Reign came out. XCOM fans almost did, but got EU instead, which was probably their greatest achievement yet - pushing for a reboot that wasn't a complete travesty and succeeding.
 
ZigzagPX4 said:
Syndicate fans got fucked over by the EA FPS reboot and got their fix only when Satellite Reign came out. XCOM fans almost did, but got EU instead, which was probably their greatest achievement yet - pushing for a reboot that wasn't a complete travesty and succeeding.
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Xcom is a great example for a GOOD sequel. Like Fallout 2 and Fallout New Vegas!
 
Here's a couple of excellent quotes. From Reddit of all places, surprise surprise. Will wonders never cease.

XanderLust said:
So here's the problem:

Conformity. That's it. Fallout was always the bad ass mother fucker that didn't give a shit. While everyone else was making games about Milord's and Dragons, Fallout let you become a grave robbing, drug addicted, slave trader, with a gambling problem, whore addiction, that eviscerated whole cities for fun.

Or not.

That was the whole fucking point. It was a reflection of humanity, a unfiltered, raw and actually extremely realistic parable of humanity. Even the satire was razor sharp. It was a master piece of creativity, social commentary, and raw unforgiving creativity. The focus was on exploring ideas, liberating your own personal demons through the proxy character, and not feeling like you were being condescended to or force fed an agenda. It was a game by adults for adults, that looked humanity square in the eye, and asked who you would become.

We have enough Destiny's and Call of Duty's and Battlefield's and Far Cry's and Borderlands its a fucking equation at this point. And what's worse, Fallout 4 is only a pale facsimile. Everything those games do, Fallout 4 does it soooooooo much worse. The gun play, the loot, the graphics. So now it's the no mans land of weak combat and weak RPG.

In a world where homogeneity has become status que, Fallout was one of the last hold outs. And that's why it's current state is just a crippling blow to those of us that grew up with it. It represents a mentality, a perspective, an honest take on the world. One of the only game worlds pragmatists could embrace.

Now it's just a white-washed eager-eyed blearily optimistic and poorly conceived millennial nothingism like all the rest. And this is coming from a millennial.

TLDR: They cut the fuckers balls off.
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Mycobrew said:
It's like if Disney made a Fallout game.
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Dr Fallout said:
Well, maybe Reddit is seeing the light of truth?
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Maybe. It's ironic that everyone is upvoting that when that's pretty much the same exact thing everyone has been saying on this website for years, yet they shit on NMA any chance they get.
 
They had suspected there was quite some truth to the criticism of Bethesda, but it was only until we had all seen and discussed the drastic design choices made in Fallout 4, that they realized it certainly was no fluke what we got.
 
Dr Fallout said:
Well, maybe Reddit is seeing the light of truth?
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Oh please. The comments under those intelligent posts will be hundreds of morons saying, "Well...I liked the game" and butthurt morons defending garbage to the last, because...because...BETHESDA!
 
Earth said:
Oh please. The comments under those intelligent posts will be hundreds of morons saying, "Well...I liked the game"
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See, now, this is fine. If they know and admit the game's flawed but geniunely enjoy it nevertheless, then we can't change their minds, and they're free to like whatever they want. I don't even consider them morons for it at all. But...

Earth said:
and butthurt morons defending garbage to the last, because...because...BETHESDA!
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...this isn't fine. If they're keen on defending a game, bringing up good points that don't exist and defending lack of quality with lies and nonexistent points, harassing and insulting those who disagree with them, then that's pretty unacceptable.

Dr Fallout said:
Well, maybe Reddit is seeing the light of truth?
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Well, /r/fo4 is still going as strong as ever, but I like to think of them as a little happy community of their own who likes offline MMOs and their "dynamic experience" for what they are. Besides, there's a subreddit for everything. Everything you can think of, and even anything you can't think of, so if you're not a fan of Fallout 4 then /r/fo4 is mostly irrelevant. I say, point one, leave them alone, point two, don't judge, for that kind of community. NMA has a little corner for good post-apocalyptic RPGs, if Fallout 4 fans wants a place of their own for Fallout 4 content, they can go ahead.

But I got those quotes from /r/Fallout, which has been on the track from "pointing out flaws here and there" on release to "there are outright problems here" to "it's fine, it's Bethesda own games, everything has flaws" denial, up until now, where posts like my quote have started becoming the top voted ones. Basically, it's clear from the beginning that /r/Fallout would slowly like Fallout 4 less and less and they've all been pretty defensive about it.

Just keep in mind that, like I said on one of my first posts here, in terms of sensitivity to communication on the Internet, NMA is the exception in handling criticism maturely, and not the rule. The language here makes everyone seem harsh and unloving, but bitterness is sort of the running theme here anyways, so they're just going to learn to accept that. Besides, if not from the /r/Fallout waves of people slowly realising Fallout 4 is not a Fallout game, where do you think NMA is getting this sudden influx of new members from?

If a newbie is reading this right now, and thinking, "why do you hate Bethesda so much", let me ask you something. They take a series that isn't theirs, and turn it into something much worse in quality and fun. Then you defend them because the series belongs to them and we should respect them for making games in their own vision. But would you defend Electronic Arts for the same reason? Isn't it some pretty stern hypocrisy to cry out at Ubisoft and EA for ripping apart old series and turning everything into cash cows, and then say Bethesda isn't a bad company for doing the same thing?
 
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