Games that allow the player to murder children/minors?

Should this be a taboo in gaming?


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I suppose in some people's minds children are sacred like cows in India, which is just as ridiculous.

If you can admit this, why do you still feel the need to argue with people? The only reason that Fallout includes penalties for killing children is because it reflects actual human behavior. You can think it's as retarded as you want, but you can't change the fact that it's a mainstream belief.

I could easily kill the two brats and their parents sitting beside me in the metro today, if only I lived in the world of Fallout... I fucking hate children!

Wow, and here I thought I was edgy being a Bojack fan.
 
If you can admit this, why do you still feel the need to argue with people? The only reason that Fallout includes penalties for killing children is because it reflects actual human behavior. You can think it's as retarded as you want, but you can't change the fact that it's a mainstream belief.
1. Because those people annoy me. 2. Not all humans, only the "mainstream", the conformist crowds, I mean. 3. Isn't this the thread we talk about why it's retarded in games?
 
Better be careful Walpknut, you're going to get put on nkchan16's hit list.

Ftfy.

He should probably avoid sitting next to anyone on the metro for a while.

Not all humans, only the "mainstream", the conformist crowds, I mean.

So if I'm understanding this correctly, the reason you disagree with Fallout's treatment of child killing is because you think its fictional societies should also hold your same fringe beliefs. In my experience, that is a pretty unrealistic expectation to have of anything.
 
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the reason you disagree with Fallout's treatment of child killing is because you think its fictional societies should also hold your same fringe beliefs. In my experience, that is a pretty unrealistic expectation to have of anything.
It's not really a belief of a fictional society, not even close. As I've said before, that society had already killed millions of children and largely doesn't care much of children as clearly seen in the game. It just the developer's "sacred children" view reflected in the game. They clearly never thought that it would annoy some people. Just like newly parents who think everyone would love their brats as much as they do. Actually, the more you think about that, the more you realize that Fallout could very well be made by Bethesda. Same shit really.
 
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They clearly never thought that it would annoy some people.

Tim Cain has actually talked about why he included the feature, and it's because he wanted there to be realistic consequences for players' actions. So in a way, I guess you could say he did it intentionally to annoy people like you. My recommendation? Mod the game or go play something else. There are plenty of titles out there for you to kill things without repercussions.
 
Just pointing out how you sound like a school shooter.

At first I thought you were exaggerating, but damn.

Why would killing a children have bad consequences?

one less kid will not make any difference in any situation, even if it was the last one remaining, and their "value" is rather subjective anyway.

Murder is murder, there is no objective difference between killing a child or an adult.

I could easily kill the two brats and their parents sitting beside me in the metro today, if only I lived in the world of Fallout... I fucking hate children!
 
By that logic, killing Adolf Hitler when he was a kid would have negative consequences. Also, children may be the future, but you don't what that future will turn out to be. A previous generation of those children have managed to destroyed the human civilization, so why should the new ones be any different?
That isn't a sound argument. Hitler had a terrible childhood, but he didn't grow up in a post-nuclear-apocalyptic society similar to Fallout's setting. Also, that's just one child in the world, out of millions upon millions of other children in the world. It should be obvious that if a nuclear war were to happen, similar to what happened during the Great War, the world population would have a stark decline, which means the minor population would also suffer from this. Yes, a previous generation of children (who grew up as adults, by the way) caused the destruction of human civilization, but we use history to reflect on atrocities like this, and try to do every we can so we repeat them. The future generations are different, because they're already reestablishing civilization. We see this in New Vegas, Fallout 2, and even in Fallout 1 in certain cases.

All I've said is that there is no difference between killing a child or an adult.
There is a difference between killing a child and an adult, seeing how killing the former clearly promotes a larger reaction. Also, children are inherently more vulnerable than adults, so it's less likely you'll get much resistance from that child.
 
Compromise: maybe killing children of some groups shouldn't occur a blanket penalty, is what Nkchan means. If you kill, say, ghoul children, maybe Vault city won't care; or if you kill 'wasteland' children the Enclave wouldn't care, of if you killed pickpockin' little shits, raiders might not care. I think that might had been too complex at the time, however, and such 'detail' might had been taken in the wrong way. Fallout already turned heads for its violence and content at the high end of the Media Moral outcry.
 
maybe killing children of some groups shouldn't occur a blanket penalty, is what Nkchan means. If you kill, say, ghoul children, maybe Vault city won't care; or if you kill 'wasteland' children the Enclave wouldn't care, of if you killed pickpockin' little shits, raiders might not care.

Wait. Is that what this is about? That's not the position I was at all interpreting. I would totally agree with this 'disconnected wasteland' idea. I was under the impression that nkchan16 was entirely against the notion of increased penalties for killing children because they shouldn't be treated as special.
 
Wait. Is that what this is about? That's not the position I was at all interpreting. I would totally agree with this 'disconnected wasteland' idea. I was under the impression that nkchan16 was entirely against the notion of increased penalties for killing children because they shouldn't be treated as special.

*Might* be. Some of the comments like the metro one are odd.
 
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