Gauss rifle mechanics
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bob_the_rambler
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
politicans gees, ya know that by not chroming the breeches of the m16 they cost a hell of alot of our troops lives.
Too true. The M-16 was a downright *terrible* weapon when it was introduced. Failed all the time, nobody had enough training with it, etc, etc, etc. Many soldiers preferred to cary captured AK-47s or some other weapon. My mother had a friend who used to get nightmares about her M-16 jamming up on her!
Women didn't go into combat or carry M-16's during the Vietnam war 
.So why would she be that worried if it jamed a bit during training. Also people rarely carried the 47 as it has a distinct sound when fired, and part of combat is hearing. Firing the enemys rifle could bring in alot of friendly fire. Mostly SF and other troops like the nung mercenarys and recon elements used captured weapons if they wanted to confuse the enemy.
.So why would she be that worried if it jamed a bit during training. Also people rarely carried the 47 as it has a distinct sound when fired, and part of combat is hearing. Firing the enemys rifle could bring in alot of friendly fire. Mostly SF and other troops like the nung mercenarys and recon elements used captured weapons if they wanted to confuse the enemy.bob_the_rambler
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
when it came to jamed guns alot of or troops threw down their m16s and hauled out the good old 1911 automatic pistol 45. YEA BABY
Bradylama
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In a conflict where the enemy can creep into every place imagineable, nurses needed to arm themselves in case of a surprise attack.
The preferred weapon of the time was the M14. It was powerful, accurate, and reliable. When compared to the M16, its two major drawbacks were a 15 round magazine (compared to the M16's 20) and a lack of automatic capability.
The AKM, however, was NOT carried into combat by anybody except Special Ops. The Kalashnikovs have a very distinct sound, and an American or ARVN soldier using one could expect to get caught in Friendly Fire. It was a great weapon for Special Ops, though, because it confused the commies.
Some doctors carried Sidearms at most , few where trained on the m16 and they had soldiers guarding them, Nurses did not get issued the rifle. The M-14 does have a 20 round box magazine as well as a 10 and 15 round one. M-16 magazines where loaded with up to 16-18 rounds to prevent the magazine springs from weakening and increasing the chances of a jam. Many M-14's did have Auto fire capability too but they where disabled or not used due to the in ability to control the rifle after the first 2 rounds left the barrel.Mostly Marine and engineer units continued to use the M-14 after the M-16 was issued. Eventually the A1 version of the rifle fixed alot of issues and most people enjoyed carrying it even though it had a stigmata about it from previous experiances.The A1 model is usually idenitified by its bird cage flash surpressor.
Miles said:
There were a couple of different reasons why the magazines were underloaded, but this wasn't one of them. When the magazine is correctly assembled, loading it with the full 20 won't pose any problems at all. Underloading wouldn't even save springs since it was compressing and decompressing that wore them out, not constant pressure or lack thereof.
There were, however, a couple of different issues that could cause magazine problems, but those didn't actually have anything to do with the construction of the magazine. If the magazine was disassembled and reassembled with the spring connected to the follower backwards, it would bind and prevent and proper feeding of the full 20 rounds. The solution there was simply to instruct soldiers not to detach the spring from the magazine follower. The other issue was that ammo was issued loose to soldiers and they loaded each round manually. The magazines could actually hold 21 rounds easily, but they again wouldn't feed properly. That was solved by simply issuing ammo on stripper clips and removing the need to count out ammo while reloading magazines.
I'll admit I may have missremembered my mother's story, but it still proves the point. Some people stuck with the M-16, some used the '14, those who were lucky enough to have a .45 pistol at least had some backup. (not everybody had one, that's true). In a lot of cases being "Trained on" the M-16 in Vietnam meant you got to hold the thing, see how the magazine goes in, and maybe shoot a magazine or two into the woods to get a "Feel for it". so hypothetically anyone could have "trained on" the M-16. If you've ever read "The Things They Carried" you'll know that the soldiers carried all kinds of weapons, basically anything they could get their hands on.
As to the AK vs. M-16 thing, as I always heard that special ops guys were the only people forbidden to use the AK-47 due to its distinctive sound, lest they be mistaken for enemies by average grunts who didn't know that they were there.
BUt of course, none of us were their and we really don't know too many specifics, we can't say conclusively that one weapon was universally favored or reviled.
This was a common problem with full-auto rifles. The German Fallschrimjägergewehr 42 (literally "Parachute Hunter's Rifle" -this from a book; I have no German) was a downright bitch to control as it used the full-sized 7.92 rifle cartridge, the later Sturmgewehr 44 solved this with a purpose-made Kurz (Short) round. (The StG 44, By the way, was the gun that, in addition to having an IR scope in WWII, had an attachment to let it shoot around corners, of course it didn't work too well!)
As to the AK vs. M-16 thing, as I always heard that special ops guys were the only people forbidden to use the AK-47 due to its distinctive sound, lest they be mistaken for enemies by average grunts who didn't know that they were there.
BUt of course, none of us were their and we really don't know too many specifics, we can't say conclusively that one weapon was universally favored or reviled.
This was a common problem with full-auto rifles. The German Fallschrimjägergewehr 42 (literally "Parachute Hunter's Rifle" -this from a book; I have no German) was a downright bitch to control as it used the full-sized 7.92 rifle cartridge, the later Sturmgewehr 44 solved this with a purpose-made Kurz (Short) round. (The StG 44, By the way, was the gun that, in addition to having an IR scope in WWII, had an attachment to let it shoot around corners, of course it didn't work too well!)
Bradylama
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Interesting thing I read about the Sturmgewehr, the Stg 42 was rejected by Nazi higher-ups and even Hitler himself because they didn't want to get rid of the long ranged Kar 98k.
In order to keep the project from being scrapped, they renamed the weapons to MP43 and MP44.
In order to keep the project from being scrapped, they renamed the weapons to MP43 and MP44.
Nerds.
All of you.
Discussing ammo and guns (with the appropriate abbreviations for crying out loud) as if it were bread and butter,
pepper and salt.
Basic necessities.
Something that really matters.
Poo-ha, I say. Poo-ha!
And the fact that so many of you actually had army training, scares the shite out of me.
I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L-I-T-Y.
Individuality.
Ever heard of it, private?
"No, Sir!"
And would you like to obtain it, private?
"No, Sir!"
Excellent. Here's a gun, son. You go shoot some barrels now. And don't let anyone tell you that guns and bullets are phallic, ya hear me?
"Yes, Sir!"
Anyway: I can't believe people of my age/generation (or even younger than me as most of you are) still feel attracted to that international and socially accepted form of homosexuality which is called teh army.
Oh, I doubt not that it must make you feel like a real man when you are holding a gun and stroking a barrel.
It's probably not unlike sitting behind the wheel of a car that is similar in each and every aspect to all other cars, and gently, very gently, caressing the gearlever.
"It's something I can not put into words."
"I'm speechless. Somebody shoot me!"
"My parents got divorced when I was 7."
"What does phallic mean?"
Gauss rifles on the other hand...
All of you.
Discussing ammo and guns (with the appropriate abbreviations for crying out loud) as if it were bread and butter,
pepper and salt.
Basic necessities.
Something that really matters.
Poo-ha, I say. Poo-ha!
And the fact that so many of you actually had army training, scares the shite out of me.
I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L-I-T-Y.
Individuality.
Ever heard of it, private?
"No, Sir!"
And would you like to obtain it, private?
"No, Sir!"
Excellent. Here's a gun, son. You go shoot some barrels now. And don't let anyone tell you that guns and bullets are phallic, ya hear me?
"Yes, Sir!"
Anyway: I can't believe people of my age/generation (or even younger than me as most of you are) still feel attracted to that international and socially accepted form of homosexuality which is called teh army.
Oh, I doubt not that it must make you feel like a real man when you are holding a gun and stroking a barrel.
It's probably not unlike sitting behind the wheel of a car that is similar in each and every aspect to all other cars, and gently, very gently, caressing the gearlever.
"It's something I can not put into words."
"I'm speechless. Somebody shoot me!"
"My parents got divorced when I was 7."
"What does phallic mean?"
Gauss rifles on the other hand...
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
You're goddamn right.
SkynetV4
Mildly Dipped
If anyone needs some information about how gauss and rail guns work, try wikipedia. There are some very good links in their site.
bob_the_rambler
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
this guy is the reason we have guns 
yes guns mater, the world history was shaped by men and their weapons. not to mention they make an awsum hobbies.
always glad to be called a nerd, rather than a pessimistic anti-patriot, who thinks of our armed forces as a shameful organization.
anyways, i think gauss rifles would make good long range artillery, or tank cannons.
yes guns mater, the world history was shaped by men and their weapons. not to mention they make an awsum hobbies.
always glad to be called a nerd, rather than a pessimistic anti-patriot, who thinks of our armed forces as a shameful organization.
anyways, i think gauss rifles would make good long range artillery, or tank cannons.