Gender politics in The Outer Worlds

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Blame people complaining about bugs in Obsidian games while not understanding how complex they were behind the scenes. Obsidian did a 180° turn and releases much less buggy games now... that also don't risk anything anymore. My biggest issue with their later games is that the quests feel formulaic now. It's like, I just get through the initial dialog and already know the options I will have at the end of it... or maybe I've just played to many games by now, dunno.
They also made all the women in The Outer Worlds insufferable and dyke-like.

For some stupid reason. Because that's what I want to see when I play video games, ugly dyke women which I can see a dozen of if I just take a brisk stroll outside.
 
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its not the bugs that are the problem, which there are plenty of, especially in their "remastered" version. its how they executed the story which was 90% fetch quests & gender politics. a big shame because the level design was solid af. i really liked the steampunk visuals in this game.
also correct me if i'm wrong, but i remember reading somewhere that part of the people at obsidian worked on fallout 76 too, and look how that trainwreck was released. even though, as of now its becoming somewhat playable. i like the new atlantic city expedition with casino stuff.
 
They also made all the women in The Outer Worlds insufferable and dyke-like.

For some stupid reason. Because that's what I want to see when I play video games, ugly dyke women which I can see a dozen of if I just take a brisk stroll outside.

All I'm reading is waa waa I can't masturbate to my vidya gaem.
 
They also made all the women in The Outer Worlds insufferable and dyke-like.

For some stupid reason. Because that's what I want to see when I play video games, ugly dyke women which I can see a dozen of if I just take a brisk stroll outside.
Yeah I mean hashtag not all and all that jazz but a lot of mainstream shit seem to despise female attractiveness. They make the claim that it is because women are not supposed to be eyecandy for the dudes but the end result is just that a lot of female characters look unappealing. It's not about them looking like a bimbo with extreme proportions, it's just about them looking aesthetically pleasing. My biggest problem with a lot of female characters in modern slop is that art design and iconography is fucking dead. They just don't know how to design an interesting female character. And so to me it just comes across as bitter and resentful. And all I can assume from that is that they have a weird bias against female attractiveness.

Yes, it makes sense that you can either get Bugsidian or Blandsidian. More features or more polish, can't have both.
That is a very good and succinct way of putting it.

I've noticed this with WoW as I've been exposing myself to its various iterations. In retail they are so hyper fixated on it catering to the end crowd, the e-sports whatever, the pvp bullshit and whiners online that every class basically have a ton of shared utility skills/abilities and can perform the same exact functions as one another to the point that it just turns into what flavour of coloured stick do you want to hit enemies with?

The game has become so hyperpolished that it affects everything else. Whenever the PvP crown whines that something affects them then the PVE crowd has to suffer.

Compare it to Classic which is what WoW originated from and some classes have strengths other classes simply do not have. It's a rock paper shotgun kind of a game design that means different classes get different points to shine in the game and it makes the world feel a lot more engaging to play as on alts because the gameplay experience is genuinely different.

I kinda felt this way about Pillars game design. It had so many spells and resistances and bla bla but nothing really felt like it packed a proper punch. Everything was designed in such a way that you never felt like you had a god ability that just won an encounter but other times you would get your ass kicked cause you simply did not have the ability you needed to get out of it.

If you have a rock with edges and close your eyes and feel around on it then there's a bunch of interesting points for your fingers to feel, and sure, one corner might be sharp and you might scrape your skin on it a bit but at least it gives you some sensation. A smooth round rock might feel satisfying at first to hold but there isn't anything for your senses to really feel beyond the same texture over and over again, there's no exploration.

I'd rather have an ambitious game that has kinks than a hyper polished game that just feels uninteresting to play.

All I'm reading is waa waa I can't masturbate to my vidya gaem.
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All I'm reading is waa waa I can't masturbate to my vidya gaem.
I mean if you can't help but violently jerk yourself off to completely regular women, that's fine, but you don't have to share it with the class. :V
 
They also made all the women in The Outer Worlds insufferable and dyke-like.

For some stupid reason. Because that's what I want to see when I play video games, ugly dyke women which I can see a dozen of if I just take a brisk stroll outside.
All I'm reading is waa waa I can't masturbate to my vidya gaem.
Yeah I mean hashtag not all and all that jazz but a lot of mainstream shit seem to despise female attractiveness. They make the claim that it is because women are not supposed to be eyecandy for the dudes but the end result is just that a lot of female characters look unappealing. It's not about them looking like a bimbo with extreme proportions, it's just about them looking aesthetically pleasing. My biggest problem with a lot of female characters in modern slop is that art design and iconography is fucking dead. They just don't know how to design an interesting female character. And so to me it just comes across as bitter and resentful. And all I can assume from that is that they have a weird bias against female attractiveness.

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I don't care if the women are ugly, but I do care when they got obviously designed to push an agenda. It's not a fucking accident that 75% of the NPCs in leadership positions are females and 100% of all female NPCs look like butch lesbians (and probably are, too). You don't even need to go through the credits to deduce that this game got designed by militant feminist women, homosexuals, hipsters, californians and all of the other stereotypical decadent liberals who are obsessed about identity politics.

Take the literal first companion you meet in the game, for example. Her side quest is literally, I fucking kid you not, about how he's an "asexual romantic lesbian" and about how she is in love with some random fucking mechanic. If you want to do the quest at all, you have absolutely no choices whatsoever other than being a total cuck and help the one female companion in the whole game that is even slightly feminine looking go date someone else.

Why is being some beta soyboy literally the only roleplaying option that is supported in this game? Why does the game assume that my player character is supportive of the whole LGBT feminism bullshit? Why am I forced to take sentences like "I'm asexual" seriously? Where is my option to laugh at Parvatti's face the second she started saying retarded shit to me? Like, imagine if this was a quest in Fallout 2. Straight away there would probably be an option to punch her in the face and tell her to fuck off from your crew because you don't associate yourself with homosexuals. If you wanted to take the more hardcore route there would even be an option to rape her in order to heal her mind from whatever the fuck is wrong with her.

The whole angle of sexual identity politics contaminates this game so pervasively that you simply cannot unsee it everywhere once you have already noticed it. And everything is so sterilized and neutered too. For a game that's supposed to represent a dystopic future, everything about the way humans sexually relate to one another feels sanitized to death. There's no filth or abusiveness to anything, every relationship that is portrayed between NPCs is "healthy" and kind. There's no husband that beats his wife, there's no wife that cheats on her husband, there's no girlfriend that makes fun of her boyfriend behind his back, there's no prostitution, there's no homeless woman giving out blowjobs for 10 dollars, there's no corporate warlord with a harem of war brides, there's no submissive girl in skimpy clothes who's just yearning to get chocked while being fucked, etc... Meanwhile Fallout 2, Planescape Torment, Vampire Bloodlines and even CP2077 had ALL of that shit.

The whole thing is so clean and "feminism friendly" that even your own character can't have sex at all. With anyone. Period. Even if you are playing as a female, you still can't seduce Parvatti, which is the one companion that has a "romantic" storyline going on in her sidequest. Your only option for progressing through that quest is being a tolerant little cuck who accepts rejection just fine and helps the girl go date someone else instead.

This isn't the first game to have a shitton of dykes and faggots in it, and that's not the crux of the issue I have with it, but when I got to know characters like Arcade and Veronica in Fallout New Vegas it didn't feel like the reason they were there was because the developers wanted to signal to the whole world how "virtuous" and aligned with the liberal world order they were, and certainly didn't get the impression that they were meant to be mirror reflections of the designers' own lifestyle and ideological outlook either. In New Vegas you even get to sell Arcade as a slave or fuck-toy to the legion, blow up Veronica's home right in front of her face, and bait Cassidy into walking right into a trap that ends with her getting melted into a pool of goo. The Outer Worlds, on the other hand, feels like it got made by people who placed their own disgustingly liberal political views above everything, and weren't willing to support or allow any form of player roleplaying, expression or playstyle that deviated from their desired "message". And the gameplay, questing and storytelling that there is to this game isn't anywhere near good enough to make me able to stomach or overlook the overt anti-masculine and anti-straight nature inherent not just to the game itself, but clearly to the people who wrote and designed it as well.
 
Yeah I don't share as extreme of a position on it all as you do. When it comes to Pervati I think to myself "take off the lense you're viewing modern slop through and take a step back, would it you 'really' have a problem with an asexual companion in an older game from the 90's?" And I don't think I would. The problem is as with any of these things that it is a product of its time. It's not wrong to have a female character as a protagonist but the moment I see one I get very skeptical as to the quality of the product due to how many other girl boss bullshit has fucked shit up in the recent past.

The biggest problem I would have with Pervati is the fact that you cannot call her out on it in a meaningful way to try to get her to basically grow up and that her quest requires you to be her little delivery boy/girl.

I dunno if the reason for why we can't be a dick to her is because of some modern sociopolitics tho. I think it's just the idea of modern game design of "oh, but the player has to be able to do everything, so we don't want to lock them out of content" which is why there is no wrong option in a lot of dialogue. I think it's mostly fear of alienating the mainstream fuckwit who demands to have everything handed to them in one playthrough (or as much as possible at least) that makes it that.

However it wouldn't surprise me if it is because they want to avoid controversy as well.
 
I found myself feeling very chivalrous getting Pavarotti a pretty dress so she could look nice for her luvva.
If women wrote a script for gorgeous women characters talking about knitting patterns and the latest goss many male players may feel more relaxed.

If they giggled about penis dimensions and the guys at * Stud U Like * many male players would squirm :P
 
The biggest problem I would have with Pervati is the fact that you cannot call her out on it in a meaningful way to try to get her to basically grow up and that her quest requires you to be her little delivery boy/girl.
"The quest should have a call out the retard for being retarded option" - Mr.Fish 2023

Ya know....Yeah it should.
 
take off the lense you're viewing modern slop through and take a step back, would it you 'really' have a problem with an asexual companion in an older game from the 90's?
It's not like if you take out Parvatti from the game it suddenly becomes an alright and average game from 30 years ago. There's hardly a character or location in that thing that doesn't reek of globohomo and feminism. Playing that thing you can almost physically feel the blue hair, fat folds, monkey pox sores, shitty tattoos and starbucks breath from the faggot hipsters who made that crap. And this agenda pushing is really just one item on the huge list of problems that game has. From the narrative to the gameplay and aesthetics, the california touch of shit really managed to fuck that game up on almost every single front.
I found myself feeling very chivalrous getting Pavarotti a pretty dress so she could look nice for her luvva.
If women wrote a script for gorgeous women characters talking about knitting patterns and the latest goss many male players may feel more relaxed.

If they giggled about penis dimensions and the guys at * Stud U Like * many male players would squirm :P
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It's not like if you take out Parvatti from the game it suddenly becomes an alright and average game from 30 years ago. There's hardly a character or location in that thing that doesn't reek of globohomo and feminism. Playing that thing you can almost physically feel the blue hair, fat folds, monkey pox sores, shitty tattoos and starbucks breath from the faggot hipsters who made that crap. And this agenda pushing is really just one item on the huge list of problems that game has. From the narrative to the gameplay and aesthetics, the california touch of shit really managed to fuck that game up on almost every single front.

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All I'm reading is waa waa I can't masturbate to my vidya gaem.
Yeah there just so happens to be ugly women in the world. They do not all look like Lara Croft. Fucking virgins man haha.
 
Yeah I don't share as extreme of a position on it all as you do. When it comes to Pervati I think to myself "take off the lense you're viewing modern slop through and take a step back, would it you 'really' have a problem with an asexual companion in an older game from the 90's?"
Issue always comes down to motivation, in the 90's there'd usually be a good reason why such a character was added, perhaps she's the key to a certain quest or item, or she's an easy way to befriend another important character, or maybe she's just genuinely a good companion.
Nowadays we should all know by now why they're added in current-year, and it's not for good reasons. ;\
 
Yeah there just so happens to be ugly women in the world. They do not all look like Lara Croft. Fucking virgins man haha.

But its a game, its not reality. There shouldn't be absolutely anything wrong with having beautiful characters in a game, be it men or women. If the half shaved pink haired twats and cucks can't handle it, then they should check themselves into a mental institution.
 
But its a game, its not reality. There shouldn't be absolutely anything wrong with having beautiful characters in a game, be it men or women. If the half shaved pink haired twats and cucks can't handle it, then they should check themselves into a mental institution.
But its a game, its not reality. There shouldn't be absolutely anything wrong with having ugly characters in a game, be it men or women. If the wimpy incels and self-appointed "Alphas" can't handle it, then they should check themselves into a mental institution. :rofl:

I don't have an opinion on beautiful and ugly characters, but I just couldn't resist at how easy it is to change a few words and make it the exact opposite. :wiggle:

Also, I never played this game and don't plan on doing it either.
 
seems like a bunch of people here probably married to some shit like this
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and are now trying to project their copium nightmare fuel on others. fk off.

But its a game, its not reality. There shouldn't be absolutely anything wrong with having ugly characters in a game, be it men or women. If the wimpy incels and self-appointed "Alphas" can't handle it, then they should check themselves into a mental institution. :rofl:

I don't have an opinion on beautiful and ugly characters, but I just couldn't resist at how easy it is to change a few words and make it the exact opposite. :wiggle:

Also, I never played this game and don't plan on doing it either.

aha.. so, if you like beautiful people you're a self appointed alpha now? how very pink haired of you.
 
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If Larian made Outer Worlds you would be fucking anything with a pulse ! Animal, vegetable or mineral.

Those Scandies are more perverted than the English upper classes.
 
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