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welsh

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Ok, What are you thoughts about this board. Constructive feedback welcome.

Sarcastic Sons (or Daughters- we're equal opportunity here at NMA) of a Bitches (or Bastards), STFU. (just kidding).
 
I wish there were more people here willing to offer opinions on many of the topics you post. Much as I disagree with King, at least he has convictionst hat we can bitch and moan at and just debate over. I wish things here were more like the old YoP on Interplay forums :(
 
Murdoch said:
I wish there were more people here willing to offer opinions on many of the topics you post. Much as I disagree with King, at least he has convictionst hat we can bitch and moan at and just debate over. I wish things here were more like the old YoP on Interplay forums :(

Meh, I don't like too many debates.

Debating smells of working.

And I don't come here to work.
 
Murdoch said:
I wish there were more people here willing to offer opinions on many of the topics you post. Much as I disagree with King, at least he has convictionst hat we can bitch and moan at and just debate over. I wish things here were more like the old YoP on Interplay forums :(

I used to like to rant a lot too. But every time I talk something serious, I get outnumbered, overwhelmed, and flamed. If it was a bit more friendlier, I might reconsider, but for now, for awhile at least, I will stay out of political discussions. People tend to get real nasty. Some say they want to hear our opinion, yet when some speak, they get pissy.
 
This board is fun, and you have your pick of what you feel like, If you want to discuss something, you can get into debates over debates, but it also has the lighter side... and my personnal favorite the artsy side.

And yes people get pissy sometimes Paladin, some of us have been here a long time, and to get the same argument over and aover again by different people gets heavy so that's why sometimes we get pissy.

Try something, go on the Fallout: game halp and ask how to refuel the car..... see how pissy they will get, but no mattr how pissy some will get you will always have someont that is going to post the answer to your question or comment..... that is unless you are looking forward to Fo:POS :P
 
Paladin- I actually appreciate that you have been posting here, even if I don't agree with you.

Free speech is not about "correct speech" or even "uncontroversial speech" but basically about getting people's passions up, getting them engaged and a little pissed off. This is why the Greeks believed the best speech was hot and emotional, and sometimes drunk- in vito veritas (in wine comes truth).

However, some of that can get a bit extreme, and it's easy to piss a person off so they don't want to come back. That's not good either. So some civility helps. But so far, it has been pretty civil.

However, your positions do invite some criticism- I think partly because you could step basic from your preconceived notions and consider them a bit more.

A few people have commented, I think it was Murdoch, that part of this is for "constructive debate" rather than 'winning'.

The success of a good argument is by convincing the other person whom who are arguing against that your position is more convincing than his- to accept your argument as valid. If not that, at least that it has some merit.

But if you argue with a person so much that the person says,"fuck I don't want to waste time with you anymore" than neither side wins. You don't because the person is not convinced and probably thinks your an asshole. But the other person also feels like they have wasted their time and is frustrated.

Staying dogmatic about a position past good good argument is just closed minded, and there is little point to go on in the discussion.

It's a different attitude, more about having a dialogue than an argument. But to share ideas you have to be able to listen and mull things over.

Not everything is answered in a logical or rational way. Some issues are moral issues.

But one needs to think about both the moral and the logical issues.

King/Paladin- You often come into arguments like a bull in china shop. Take it easy and think about things a bit. I am not saying you are necessarily wrong, but others often have opinions too from different perspectives. Listen to the perspective and consider it before responding.
 
Second that.

On topic, the GD forum seems the most interesting to me, as there's "a bit of everything" to check out, as Ugly mentioned. Nevertheless, I think there are far more political debates now than when I joined up a few months ago, which gives it an aspect a bit more serious than, say, the Order boards.
 
TheBigL said:
nobody almost look at "website" "modding" and other forums.

Website, modding, RPG and other forums are topic-specific, they're not supposed to be overly active.

GD isn't exactly active at the moment, but it works that way, it'll prolly pick up again, lots of people also prefer this forum to the Order.
 
I got these things called "Finals" right now, thus limiting my time to think independently.

After this week though, I plan I getting nice and sauced up and posting some insane statement about why the US should be a theocracy and then tell everyone who disagrees that they are fucksticks who like Rush.

Until then!
 
Uhm Murdoch, if you are referring to me, than you are wrong. First, having an official religion doesn't make you a theocracy. Doesn't Britian have an official religion? Correct me on that if I am wrong. And when did I ever insult anyone ever? I actually enjoyed reading your thoughts until some certain person began to rampantly flame me.
 
Paladin Solo said:
Doesn't Britian have an official religion? Correct me on that if I am wrong.

I think most West-European states dropped "official religions", so now there are only "dominant religions". Anglican church in England, Reformed in Holland and Germany, Catholic in France, Spain and Italy.
 
What should happen? The discussions have died out here, lately. We need more of them. Ehehe
 
Sander said:
What should happen? The discussions have died out here, lately. We need more of them. Ehehe

No variations, only serious debates?

That'd suck. You might like it, but a lot of people don't, including me.
 
I agree with Kharn's point about "serious" debates, and about not liking to have them here.

My family, friends, and place of employment allow me vast opportunities to debate the state of the world and the numerous issues that encompass it. And while I agree that many of these issues are crucial and thought-provoking, getting away from them long enough to catch my breath is a large reason why I come to NMA. I enjoy stepping out of the "real" world and delving into Fallout's alternate world...which is, I suppose, why I spend a good amount of my free time writing Fallout-based stories, and why most of the comments I make here pertain to Fallout.

It isn't that I don't care about this world that we all live in. I care very much about it and the people in it, but I can't keep the switch on 24/7. Everyone needs a break from it - NMA is one my reprieves, a valuable one that I'll continue tending just the way I have been.
 
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