Graphics

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by Azrael-Arkangel, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. Jesterka

    Jesterka Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    912
    Mar 16, 2006
    It's almost all about 70s crappy crap, Demon. I'm vominting now. :hide:
     
  2. Demonslayer

    Demonslayer Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    968
    Aug 8, 2005
    Because one thing is create, other is try to reproduce.
    Creating you can have it your way but reproducing you need to stay near the original.

    Well, i know.
    The "Back to the future" and "Mad Max" cars could fit, the delorean as some side quest/random enconter with Doc and Marty who traveled to the past and screwed up the future while the Interceptor and the police car could work like in the Mad Max movies. About the muscle cars, yes they wouldn't fit in the 50s scenario.

    I know. But they are badass and i always play badass as the Chosen One. Almost as badass as those guys in Supernatural :roll:
     
  3. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    And what this have to do with learning modeling?

    Could fit into what? Into the Fallout's settings or into retarded references to popular culture, since both are different things? Wait... you're talking about Fallout 2, where both are blended into one and a lot of stuff is out of place! Everything makes sense now! :dance:
     
  4. x'il

    x'il Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    980
    Mar 3, 2009
    I like the bookshelf, not so much the rest, except for the car at T-ray's, very nice, though i think Lexx is right about the roof.

    Maybe add more details (lines, compartments and such). And, couldn't you use Mr. Handy's "skin" on it?

    I'll have to agree with Continuum here, "Doc and Marty" in fallout would just be awful and plain ludicrous, and neither the delorean nor the interceptor fit the setting or the aesthetics.
     
  5. Tagaziel

    Tagaziel Panzerkatze Staff Member Admin Orderite

    Dec 10, 2003
    Doc and Marty we did in The Fall. It's too cheesy.
     
  6. Continuum

    Continuum Vault Fossil

    Nov 8, 2006
    As some of you probably noticed maximum dimension of FRM isn't related to the dimension of bitmap itself, but to the orientation to blocking hex. As shown below even large FRM which is centered around blocking hex will be displayed correctly, but if you'll move that bitmap away from blocking hex engine will cut it after you'll put into the map (extremely large bitmap/far away from blocking hex) or display problems will occur (disappearing on the mouse's scroll/move for example).



    I think there's some kind of hardcoded rectangle (marked in red), orientated to one point, which is responsible for it. Now, I wonder what is the exact dimension and orientation to that one point... :ugly:

    Or maybe there's something else?

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    Of course I'm talking about scenery/walls, not about critters ;)
     
  7. lisac2k

    lisac2k Vault Senior Citizen
    Modder

    Oct 26, 2004
    OK, here's a small update from me, black dude wearing vault suit... After a period of lethargy, I've decided to start working on it again.

    Here's the Wiki page about the project. And the animations presentation as well:

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    Any help would be appreciated, send me a PM if you're interested.
     
  8. PastaMasta

    PastaMasta Mildly Dipped

    545
    Sep 25, 2008
    Looks friggin great, you guys doing the player mods are legends.
     
  9. Josan12

    Josan12 Vault Senior Citizen

    Oct 15, 2007
    Great Stuff, Lisac. He looks great! :clap:

    The dude is getting all this attention - new hairstyles, new skin colors ... but what about the female dude? :(

    I guess girls are stupid ... ;)
     
  10. PastaMasta

    PastaMasta Mildly Dipped

    545
    Sep 25, 2008
    I'd actually like the mohawk skin. I'm interested in learning how to mod...maybe if someone shew me the basics I could work on it.
     
  11. brother_soifran

    brother_soifran Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    396
    Oct 14, 2008
    hé,hé :)
    Soifrane is my sister ;)
    a little fix on the wiki is imaginable? :)
    or write sister Soifrane :)
    Schuss

    Brother Soifran
     
  12. x'il

    x'il Water Chip? Been There, Done That

    980
    Mar 3, 2009
    Nice!!, looks great Lisac2k, you really nailed the correct color! :clap:

    Lisac2k's tutorials contain all the basics you'd need to know, other details and techniques can be learned later, and... you can always join one of the existing projects. :wink:

    Well, now that you mention it Josan, i have this critter i've been working on, that.... :shock: ... and i could really use some help with... :shock: :shock:

    nah, just kidding... :lol: :D
     
  13. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    Yes, color looks great. Wasn't the combat armor dude more darker? Not that we get a sometimes dark black and a sometimes not so dark black dude. :>
     
  14. lisac2k

    lisac2k Vault Senior Citizen
    Modder

    Oct 26, 2004
    Yes, that's the material reflection. When the sprites were rendered, their "skin" was reflecting the light (ray-trace) and this is the difference we have right here.

    The guy w/o combat armor is more exposed to the light, thus "more reflections" (lighter). The other guy is packed into a combat armor with helmet, only the face is (barely) visible. Unfortunately, the light rays didn't expose the face enough to get the skin colour you can see on the vault suit dude.

    The same can be seen on the white dude, and is hard to notice in-game, because of the colourful environment around him (a small joke, considering we got only 229 colours to work with.)
     
  15. Wild_qwerty

    Wild_qwerty Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Feb 2, 2004
    Darken it up a little bit, remeber that by the time you make the sprite ingame at low resolution and 256 colour most details are lost, id make the body a little smaller in relation to the arms.

    You need to render it with anti-alaising on for the internal parts of the image bu off for the outside edges so you can have a nice clean image with a "hard" outer edge with a transparent background.

    I rendered all my images twice, once with AA on and once with AA off and used 'Sprite Labs" to combine the two images, but then again I was using a free program (Anim8or) that AA was either on or off with no options
     
  16. Lexx

    Lexx Background Radiant
    Moderator

    Apr 24, 2005
    I use 3ds max and there I can render with AA on in the inside and AA off on the edges/ where the outside of the model hits the background. ;)

    Making the textures darker is not a bad idea- I tested it in a graphic program right now but it looks still very bad in relation to other Fallout art. Too much details are missing.
     
  17. your evil twin

    your evil twin It Wandered In From the Wastes

    165
    Apr 29, 2006
    I quite like playing as a female character. Especially since all the NPCs that join in Fallout 2 are male, it's nice have one girl in the group!

    Yeah I'd love to see more variety in female player graphics.