Gun Control

Some will sure do. But do you really want a society where the safety of the people depends on the willingness of a stranger to put his life on the line, who might or might not be actaully trained and proficient in the use of weapons? Do you want situations like in Beslan, where civilians start shooting their shotguns and rifles at the terrorists holding the hostages in a school?

A key negotiator from the school siege in Beslan, south Russia, has said shooting by armed civilians provoked the final slaughter of the hostages.

A lot of pro-guners make the argument that if everyone was armed, there would be less or even no crime, this sounds to me like people already accept a situation where they live in a society where a gun is seen as a necessity. And that's, sorry a bit fucked up in my opinion, at least for a nation that is one of the richest in the world. Now, I am not blaming any of this on weapons, but shouldn't the target be, to create a society where you have the freedom to own a weapon, but not actually feel the need for it? Is the only realistic and viable solution here, to have more characters like Zimmerman runing around in their communities? Or should schools have now armed guards with assault rifles in every corridor, with bullet proof wests? Children 'protected' by bulletproof back packs to eventually save their lifes and the buildings protected like prissons with metal detectors at every corner. What a wonderfull world.

That really can't be the best the american society has to offer ...
 
Some will sure do. But do you really want a society where the safety of the people depends on the willingness of a stranger to put his life on the line, who might or might not be actaully trained and proficient in the use of weapons? Do you want situations like in Beslan, where civilians start shooting their shotguns and rifles at the terrorists holding the hostages in a school?

A key negotiator from the school siege in Beslan, south Russia, has said shooting by armed civilians provoked the final slaughter of the hostages.

A lot of pro-guners make the argument that if everyone was armed, there would be less or even no crime, this sounds to me like people already accept a situation where they live in a society where a gun is seen as a necessity. And that's, sorry a bit fucked up in my opinion, at least for a nation that is one of the richest in the world. Now, I am not blaming any of this on weapons, but shouldn't the target be, to create a society where you have the freedom to own a weapon, but not actually feel the need for it? Is the only realistic and viable solution here, to have more characters like Zimmerman runing around in their communities? Or should schools have now armed guards with assault rifles in every corridor, with bullet proof wests? Children 'protected' by bulletproof back packs to eventually save their lifes and the buildings protected like prissons with metal detectors at every corner. What a wonderfull world.

That really can't be the best the american society has to offer ...

Well no, this is not the best American society has to offer, this is what happens when emotions run wild and people do before they think. And Zimmerman was let off, as the judge found he was legally within his rights, but as self-defense seems to have become a crime in some places you may not see his self-defense as what it was and more as a race crime like the media sensationalized it (well and Zimmer sensationalized in a non-race way afterwards as well).
 
But do you really want a society where the safety of the people depends on the willingness of a stranger to put his life on the line, who might or might not be actaully trained and proficient in the use of weapons?

You mean like people in the police and the army?



Crni " Gunz are bad, I mean, like, look at Russia!" lmao. Ok fine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

The event led to security and political repercussions in Russia; most notably, it contributed to a series of federal government reforms consolidating power in the Kremlin and strengthening of the powers of the President of Russia.[9] As of 2016, aspects of the crisis in relation to the militants continue to be contentious: questions remain regarding how many terrorists were involved, the nature of their preparations and whether a section of the group had escaped. Questions about the Russian government's management of the crisis have also persisted, including allegations of disinformation and censorship in news media, whether the journalists who were present at Beslan were allowed to freely report on the crisis,[10] the nature and content of negotiations with the terrorists, allocation of responsibility for the eventual outcome, and perceptions that excessive force was used.[7][11][12][13][14]

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in a 2017 ruling criticised Russia for not taking sufficient precautions before the event, and for using excessive lethal force when concluding the siege which violated the "right to life".[15]

So dumb, but yeah if you want to know how the seige actually happened you can read the sources. Or you can listen to the BBC. lol you listen to the BBC. Fucking dumbass. why is BBC bad, BBC is smart and loves me and wants the best for me and give me the information I need to be safe because they want the best for me teeheehee. The top 10 Reasons why women are better than men. Check out my blog. BBC reporting.

A lot of pro-guners make the argument that if everyone was armed, there would be less or even no crime, this sounds to me like people already accept a situation where they live in a society where a gun is seen as a necessity.

I don't feel it's necessary, until they keep trying to fucking take them away. and I could use a fucking pointy stick, but they will take that away too. I have knives, but ohh no, do you really want to live in a society where you feel

Here again with the socialist utopia. Drink my koolaid people. You are all damaged and doomed, but can be saved! Praise our overlords.

Im sure a lot of people say things. I'm sure that really ruffles your feathers because it doesn't conform to your socialist utopia. Probably should grind them up in tank tracks and make pie out of them.

I don't really see a lot of people making that argument. The argument is, which is statistically shown over and over again, that gun ownership has no effect, no increase, no decrease, on crime rate at all. What it does show however is that it prevents people from dying. Time and Time Again,
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3#13

and again, and again. and again. But guns are scary and they make me poopoo.



And that's, sorry a bit fucked up in my opinion, at least for a nation that is one of the richest in the world. Now, I am not blaming any of this on weapons, but shouldn't the target be, to create a society where you have the freedom to own a weapon, but not actually feel the need for it?

Most places and people in the United States don't feel the need to own a guns.



Is the only realistic and viable solution here, to have more characters like Zimmerman runing around in their communities? Or should schools have now armed guards with assault rifles in every corridor, with bullet proof wests? Children 'protected' by bulletproof back packs to eventually save their lifes and the buildings protected like prissons with metal detectors at every corner. What a wonderfull world.

That really can't be the best the american society has to offer ...

Yeah well the same people trying to take our guns away are the ones responsible for creating a society being run like a prison. That's what most metropolitan liberals don't get. Or they do get it, and they don't give a fuck about you, because remember, we are slaves. Just like you're a slave to all the bankers in the EU.

So fucking gun control. Yeah people should learn how to fucking aim. That way when they shoot politicians and bankers, they actually kill the fucks.
 
You mean like people in the police and the army?
Is that an argument? Why do you think a random citizen is more capable then a police men, anti terror units or the army? Again. Do we want to leave everything to the average guy here?

Crni " Gunz are bad, I mean, like, look at Russia!" lmao. Ok fine.
You're missing the point. Do you really think the solution is to arm all civilians? That's the question here.

So dumb, but yeah if you want to know how the seige actually happened you can read the sources. Or you can listen to the BBC. lol you listen to the BBC. Fucking dumbass. why is BBC bad, BBC is smart and loves me and wants the best for me and give me the information I need to be safe because they want the best for me teeheehee. The top 10 Reasons why women are better than men. Check out my blog. BBC reporting.
Can you prove the BBC is wrong?


I don't feel it's necessary, until they keep trying to fucking take them away. and I could use a fucking pointy stick, but they will take that away too. I have knives, but ohh no, do you really want to live in a society where you feel
Tinfoilhat is strong with this one. Also not an argument I ever made. I never said anyone should take your toys away. Stop putting words in my mouth by the way. The qestion again, was if arming every civilian, would be a solution to the gun viollence.

No, no in all seriousness now! You totally saw trough my plot ... the target of our communist cabal secretly working in your shadow government - Trump is just a ruse, is working behind the curtain to turn the United States in a socialist dictatorship. All those school shootings? Paid actors! Now you know it. Oh, I am the leader by the way.

Most places and people in the United States don't feel the need to own a guns.
Then it's a good thing that I said : "A lot of pro-guners make the argument that if everyone was armed, there would be less or even no crime, this sounds to me like people already accept a situation where they live in a society where a gun is seen as a necessity."

But even you seem to agree that SOME people at least believe, they need a gun to be safe. It certainly is an argument that's often brought up here. Or do you not think the "bad" guy with a gun can be only stoped by the "good" guy with a gun? I am getting confusing messages here ... what is it now? Is there are need to protect your self with weapons or not? Some said stuff like 'I don't carry police officers in my pocket!'.

Yeah well the same people trying to take our guns away are the ones responsible for creating a society being run like a prison. That's what most metropolitan liberals don't get.
Can you give me names? Examples? Policies? Be specific please. And don't tell me THX OBAMA! You had democrats and republicans in the government and with the majorities in congress. As far as I remember the Pariot ACT for example, was one of Bush's children.


Well no, this is not the best American society has to offer, this is what happens when emotions run wild and people do before they think. And Zimmerman was let off, as the judge found he was legally within his rights, but as self-defense seems to have become a crime in some places you may not see his self-defense as what it was and more as a race crime like the media sensationalized it (well and Zimmer sensationalized in a non-race way afterwards as well).
I am not saying he comitted a crime but ... I dunno man ...
 
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I don't have to give you shit. Things are obvious unless you're an idiot who likes to talk about something they know nothing about. Am I going to convince you? No. You have to go through shit yourself, or want to see it from another perspective.

Which you can't, and which most people can't.

Pigs and flag fuckers like to go around and scare people to make them not like guns. Then criminals prey on them.

People not experienced at all with firearms who are opposed to it aren't going to change their mind. People who haven't put themselves in a position to find shit out for themselves like to sit around on the couch and debate their logic, looking at problem naively with only shallow self-interest in mind.


I said what I thought on the subject. Perhaps I should write all evidence to such things I say. And then what? That will not change a thing. Perhaps Ill just become a political target.

Like good ol Edward Snoden, or Julian Assange.

Oh wait they are Russian agents. remember that.

Misinformation is everywhere. I don't give a fuck about what you want from me. Playing devils advocate goes two ways. You can see both sides of the argument, or you can fight for the sake of winning.

Well guess what. Trump has it right. Let common knowledge experimentation figure it out. Not sit here and smell our own farts.

You like the smell of my fart crni? I know you do. come on, have a good sniff. Come out and join the rest of the world. Get out of your autistic basement. It's ok, cause you're going to die anyways, whether you like it or not.

Ahh nah. Serbian white guilt runs hard through your veins and receding from the world is a defense mechanism. You want evidence? You've already got it. It's called a fucking computer.

People aren't rational beings. Rationality is a tool to facilitate one attaining their emotional desires.

It's my desire to leave a legacy of reminding you how daily you're getting fucked by the virus that is the system isolating you in a box, until you step out to join it, for the greater good of the system. The flavor of the week. Pick your favorite ice cream.


So do whatever you want. It's a free world. I'm sure that's why you're out following all of your dreams right now isn't it? In this free and open society.


Youre going to ask me. Ohh you didnt awnser the question. Do you think this is the solution to XYZ.

Solution to what exactly? What is the end goal here?

No, I don't follow the common meme thread of arguable topics. So of course im the tin foiled hat man. I love it. It makes me feel good. It shows me that I'm doing the right thing.

I don't have to awnser to anyone. I can die with a smile on my face knowing that all of you couldn't make me do what you wanted me to do.

Thats what is needed in the common man. Having a gun control thread is the epitome of stupidity. The pinnacle, of wasted potential and misguided priorities out of an infinity of more fulfilling pursuits. A great distraction from both stupidity and malice intent of control.

Do you prefer that your masters worship hedonism, or their own theological bullshit? Is white people wearing the color purple cultural appropriation? Top ten facts you didn't know about the KKK in the western world. Why owning Amazon Alexa is a necessity if you want to stay on top! 5 things you didn't know that were oppression. 15 New ways police are catching criminals!

There is no law, or book, or policy, talking point that can change anything.

There is only the will of the people, and the barrel of the gun.

The rest is "Navel gazing". It's just putrid diarrhea.

So I assume conflict is coming. So how does this all reference to the stupid strawman of "Do you really feel that we should, live in a society, where.... like totally, everyone has to be armed, cause, like that's not cool.

Ok jesus, go out there and start changing some shit then. Lets see how long it takes you. *looks at watch*


We live in a world where AI scientist autistic retards are trying to build a machine like the mind of a man. ha. hahahahahah. to solve humanities problems no less!

As if humanities problems are not humans themselves. omfg. like really.

Do you think we should be oppressed by living in a society where like, totally, there are like only 15 flavors of ice cream instead of 29? Like how can you say that? Like omg. I feel like we should have 29 ice creams. Prove me wrong, you know like with sources and shit. More ice cream is totally better.

vs

Do you think we should be oppressed by fat people, walking around eating ice cream all day, with all the starving kids in africa who eat poop? I mean, do you really NEED 29 flavors of ice cream?


And you wonder why your lives are so fucked up. You live in a fantasy. You can't wake up from it until you want to. Meaningless shit just, infests your minds. Not a care in the world for the harm it might do someone. For your vision, is poisoned from the start...for it does not take into consideration reality at all.

Empty, definition-less, potent, pure, cold, violent, sexual, viceral reality...of the fucking chaos that really is. So instead of controlling yourself, you seek to control others, because the chaos frightens you.

No human progress at all to be made. Living worse off with higher technology and fantasies to make your lie seem complete. A whim of evolutionary dead-ends. Can't evolve to the now. It's a meaningless gesture. Attachment to anything.

The denial of simple, pure, reality. The horror of your legs snapping at the fall on the hard ground. The need to prevent it so ingrained in your mind, that you can sell your soul to whatever quells the pain. Stops the pain.

A larger war is coming. The control mechanisms can't hold on forever. God is dead, and in his place we are building a new god. This is nothing more than a fight for who sits at the throne of the heavens. You will know god when your legs are snapped, your mind raped, your body imprisoned, your soul ostracized and kicked around by the electrical current that is the spasmodic human tumor of illusion misused to create fantasy instead of vision, instead of simulation. No way to play with ideas. Just feeling your asshole tighten in excitement and fear at the different veils covering the image of your own death, and the death and torture and pain of all you love.

Sell out to it. But remember that it's a simulation. You cannot live without it. However it is also only as real as you want it to be.

As if there is any doubt that the democratic violence that is the human species will ever stop until it can experience the sensations first hand. Argument, debate, pointless.

Nothing more than a duel for the crowd of sheep to choose a new god.

I do not need a slave. If you don't either, if you can be strong enough to not imprint the biological game as the true nature of existence, then perhaps we will survive.

We will survive in that if the only thing we take seriously is the suffering caused by taking things seriously.

bam bam cowboy.

Fuck the police.

Fuck the government.

9/11 was an inside job.

9/11 was the best bad day, the worst good day for america.

Allah Akbar.

Zeig Heil.

#Imwithher.

Jeeesusahhh commadsssaahh you sirrraaaahhh

fire and damnatttionnnaaah

The obviousssaah solution is science.

Yeah, the "obvious" "solution". The final solution.

I love all you people. Fuck all of you, and get fucked by a panzer tank, just enough to remember the true reality of how you feel about that cold shaft ripping out your asshole.

Vote demorepublicanzi

Obama did 7/11

Cia is putting mind control bacteria in your childrens milk at school.

Is that true? Who knows. But I have faith that someone has had that idea. Who knows if they got away with it.

SOURCE FROM UNIVERSITY SCIENTIST. SLEEPING LESS MEANS MORE TIME DURING THEY DAY.

ohh it must be true then! I've always doubted it so.

we can have flying cars in the future, because life sucks without flying cars, send me money for flying cars,

just cant live without flying cars. life is hell utopia! utopia!

hate the pain, hate the ugliness. hate the leper. the only words to my attention, are the ones i can shove my cock in. cause then i can escape my illusions into reality, the reality of my balls unleashing a hot load all over the face of your gay 16 year old son dressed up like an anime whore while eating your best freinds wifes pussy on his bed, and shitting all over his work clothes, and enjoying the erotic pleasure of murdering school girls, your erection pulsating as you watch their lifeless bodies drop like a puppet who's strings have been cut, spilling their brains to the floor as warm urine from their corpse hugs the tips of your feet. Feeling so alive yes.

Hmm here comes the regret, the horrible truth of the situation.

Ohh no no no, that's too much truth. We should follow another truth. the truth of PAIN. of how all is pain and we should limit the pain. I have another way to limit the pain. Meditate on my compound and praise the holy asshole of KFC for blessings of akatosh upon the holy buttock.

Truth. Pah. Sources. Pah. What a waste of time.

The only truth is inside of you. As a person. Who you are from the world your shown, the experiences you hold, till the day you die. The joys that are the best joys, are joys of pure unity with a person with no walls. With the Universe, Violence, Sexual, Family, Saving someones life, yourself. Those intimate truths are the joys of the righteous. Can't not be an island and join the universe. Can't project your wrath and anger, your competition and true inner power at the monster, so become your own monster preying on the weak. Can't be truly sexual, so I must conform to the idea of proper sexuality this decade. Can't truly be one with my family, I must leave them to die so I will show them, that I am no loser. I am not weak, are you proud of me yet dad? Can't face the pain of death, so stand idle as a bystander as life dies around you. Can't be in touch with yourself, cause humanity is a putrid virus right? You must suppress them right? You can't let them out healthily, cause you're addicted to the painful cock rape that sets your soul free, your self-hating soul. Can't just lay in contentment and be of humility, because you are oppressed at every turn! Bribed by the controlled extortion of your senses. Too bright and burning for you to find meaning. Attached to your totems constantly fearing the unknown, and taking your body and mind seriously in all of its illusions.

Meaninglessness is now a god it seems! Just overload myself with that truth. Truth will set you free. Just keep digging your grave deeper into your addictive pit, where the only truth you see is the barrel of a gun you are pressing against your head, the cord you tie around your neck, for all meaning is lost in your fantasies.

I pray all sorts of pleasures and pain befall on you, for that is all you will ever really know, poor creature. That is what is needed to set you free from the illusions, where you can set yourself, your pain and ego aside at the breaking point, and find yourself alive underneath the fallacy that is the program.

There is no need at all to enforce your visions. If the vision is moral, just, truthful, correct... it will spread like a virus.

That is eutopia. It's the constant evolutionary warmth that draws us closer to the horizon from what we know, what we experience. Our own minds and bodies in conflict with each other. Our vision being sharpened by truth. The horror and pain of life, as well as it's beauty and pleasure.

You want the truth. You can't handle the truth.

Be grateful, that the human race with no logic or reason at all, as come to this point. The realization of the stimuli. Let's hope they do not forget the past, or they will be doomed to repeat it.

That is all I can fucking hope, out of this shit-stain existence that is attempted at being "run" by these pathetic and imbecile creatures that are humans.

God help us all.

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If you believe that the average person is incapable of owning a firearm then every state with a democratic process is destined to fail.
 
Maybe it is?

“The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
 
It's probably shitty, if it's based off the literal translation of a sardonic joke by a 60 year old head of state, by an autistic 30 year old ex-Yugoslavian janitor.
 
Just look at the average person and see how dumb that person is. Then you need to realize that half of the population is even dumber*.
And then you need to realize that it's just as likely that you're on the wrong side of the peak as well.


*Disclaimer: This is polemics, to be taken with a massive grain of salt.
 
Democracy is the only system of government that takes into account human stupidity. All other forms assume human infallibility if they wear a certain type of hat or come out of a certain uterus.

I agree with Plato in the fact that leaders should be philosophers but I am against a philosopher class because the demos is the only environment that can test the validity of philosophical presuppositions.
 
Modern philosophers are worthless cretins, anyway.
Technocracy and working towards a benevolent AI-God is the way to go.
 
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