Guns n Ammo

[El_Smacko]

Isn't using names like Colt or Winchester or H&K or Glock using brandnames?

Yup. Any games that did either got the rights or where to unimportant to get sued.

 

[Sander]

Isn't using names like Colt or Winchester or H&K or Glock using brandnames?

Yup. Any games that did either got the rights or where to unimportant to get sued.

The latter is impossible. If you fail to protect your brandname and copyrights, you lose the right to determine whether or not another institution can use the brand name/copyright and it becomes essentially free for use.

 

[Tagaziel]

I still wonder why hunters don't just use large caliber sniper rifles and assault rifles. The animal doesn't stand a fucking chance anyway, so why bother with regular rifles?

most hunters use scoped bolt action rifles (and those are NOT sniper rifles, Grizzly). most commonly in 30-06, .308 and .300WM i guess. a single decently placed shot with those will usually kill the deer quick.

hunting with "assault rifles" (for which i'll assume for now that you mean semi-automatic "Black Rifles) isn't usually looked favorable upon, because you'd need several shots to take the animal down most of the time. (this is mostly because hunters don't want to score headshots that ruin their trophy)
anyway, hunters shoot the body and with an 5.56mm or a 7.62x39 bullet, you really aren't sure the animal will go down with less than 3 hits. which is why most people dont want to hunt with an AR15, an AK or an SKS.

Hmm good point. Update: why won't they use an M72 LAW for instance?

 

[Sorrow]

Isn't using names like Colt or Winchester or H&K or Glock using brandnames?

Yup. Any games that did either got the rights or where to unimportant to get sued.

The latter is impossible. If you fail to protect your brandname and copyrights, you lose the right to determine whether or not another institution can use the brand name/copyright and it becomes essentially free for use.

That's kinda creepy. Does one need to get rights to use weapon names in books too?

 

[Tagaziel]

I believe it all depends on the context. In games where weapons play a prominent role, the copyright needs to be protected. Sir-Tech did a great job with that in Jagged Alliance 2 <3

In books, where they are mentioned in passing and are not the center of attention... well, I don't think the writer needs to get the copyrights. Otherwise, we'd see firearms manufacturers suing newspapers worldwide.

 

[Sorrow]

Sir-Tech did a great job with that in Jagged Alliance 2 <3

What do you mean by that? They asked for permission or bought a licence or something like that?

Also, why games should be treated in different way than books and movies?

 

[Tagaziel]

Sir-Tech did a great job with that in Jagged Alliance 2 <3

What do you mean by that? They asked for permission or bought a licence or something like that?

Also, why games should be treated in different way than books and movies?

Because, I don't know, IN GAMES WEAPONS PLAY A PROMINENT ROLE?

As for Sir-Tech, I know that they did a fantastic job on JA2, judging by the final product.

 

[Sorrow]

Because, I don't know, IN GAMES WEAPONS PLAY A PROMINENT ROLE?

In most games weapons are just tools for killing people just like in books and movies.

 

[Tagaziel]

Because, I don't know, IN GAMES WEAPONS PLAY A PROMINENT ROLE?

In most games weapons are just tools for killing people just like in books and movies.

But in games play a prominent role. Can't you see the core difference in CONTEXT?

 

[Sorrow]

And in books and movies that feature a lot of shooting, books about military, etc. they don't?

 

[Tagaziel]

And in books and movies that feature a lot of shooting, books about military, etc. they don't?

No, because they aren't featured PROMINENTLY. In a game you always see the weapon and know what it is. In a book you do not.

 

[Werwolf]

Whooa, where is my brains going?
So, Fallout didn't paid for using weapons, but weapons are different, because it is something like utopia. (but dont't say it is alternative world started in 1950s - it wrong)
I have my own vision about weaponry of post-nuklear america, you can test it:
http://cyberpunk4.narod.ru/games/f2weapomod.rar
This mod will say more than I can write.
Easy to install, no need to start from beginning, no fatal bugs, check it and please say something about this weapons .

 

[Lord Elden]

And in books and movies that feature a lot of shooting, books about military, etc. they don't?

When writing scripts it's advised to avoid using brand names incl. weapon types unless it has a significant meaning to the plot. I guess it's due to copyright laws.

 

[Sorrow]

I guess I have read too many books from The Survivalist series.

 

[Werwolf]

So what is the "Hunting Rfile" is? Where is the magazine? If in tube on upper part it can hold only 4 or 5 bullets, but must be 10.