How did you guys feel about the IRL weapons of Fallout 2?

[ThatZenoGuy]

One thing to notice is that some weapons like the P90 and G11 aren't exactly the same as their IRL counterparts, so they're 'fictional' in a sense.

NV has AR pattern rifles laying around which seem to fit pretty decently.

And practically all of the 'cowboy' weapons are almost identical to IRL weapons (and unquestionably must be the more modern versions than the historical examples).

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

I think a cool idea would be the weapons that IRL were one-offs or prototypes, like the Pancor Jackhammer or Walther WA 2000, would be ones that were adapted in the Fallout world. Drop ones commonplace to IRL modern weaponry like the P90 and embrace the obscure so as to bridge the idea of including late 20th/early 21st century "modern" weapons whilst still maintaining the alternative retrofuture.

I completely agree with this. Those Cold War era (and beyond) prototypes look unique and futuristic in their own way, so they don’t feel out of place in the fallout world. Having well-known guns like M-16s and SAWs makes the game feel like COD and doesn’t fit the aesthetic.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I completely agree with this. Those Cold War era (and beyond) prototypes look unique and futuristic in their own way, so they don’t feel out of place in the fallout world. Having well-known guns like M-16s and SAWs makes the game feel like COD and doesn’t fit the aesthetic.

SAW I can agree on, but classic M-16's are pretty fallout, they fit the 'techno 50's weirdness', with their plastic (new age technology!) bodies and dark coverings.

Literally looks like something the Enclave might give to their lowest ranks.

 

[Iprovidelittlepianos]

SAW I can agree on, but classic M-16's are pretty fallout, they fit the 'techno 50's weirdness', with their plastic (new age technology!) bodies and dark coverings.

Literally looks like something the Enclave might give to their lowest ranks.

I just think they’re too recognizable. You see one and go “that’s an M-16”, as opposed to like the Jackhammer that most people wouldn’t recognize.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I just think they’re too recognizable. You see one and go “that’s an M-16”, as opposed to like the Jackhammer that most people wouldn’t recognize.

Mmm, I can see that...

Amusingly the Jackhammer never had a proper 'working' model, the showroom model every single depiction is based on, couldn't even be reloaded without disassembly of the gun.

What about the Mauser 9mm though? Anyone who's played BF1 would realize "Oh its that WW1 gun!".

 

[ElloinmorninJ]

Fallout NV showed it’s easy to make an M16 fit in the game, just add a little wood furniture

 

[Atomic Postman]

Yeah the M16 tows the line by being classic Americana retro with the right build.

 

[ElloinmorninJ]

Also the .44 magnum revolver which fallout 2 added seemed to fit perfectly fine as well

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Also the .44 magnum revolver which fallout 2 added seemed to fit perfectly fine as well

Mostly I presume by not having an actual name, like "Python" or something like that.

So you can RP it as being either a pre-war, or postwar production, maybe each revolver being unique, etc.

As opposed to "Desert Eagle" which kinda has to be a IRL firearm.

 

[Risewild]

As opposed to "Desert Eagle" which kinda has to be a IRL firearm.

To be fair, there's 3 real world versions/models of the Desert Eagle pistol. Over time a new version pops up. So the Fallout Desert Eagle can be a "future" fictional version that doesn't really exist in the real world.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

To be fair, there's 3 real world versions/models of the Desert Eagle pistol. Over time a new version pops up. So the Fallout Desert Eagle can be a "future" fictional version that doesn't really exist in the real world.

The models are all just slight differences and caliber changes, all after the 'split' of Fallout universe as well.

Not that I am complaining, blapping people in FO1 with the Eagle was always a delight.

 

[TheGM]

Fallout NV showed it’s easy to make an M16 fit in the game, just add a little wood furniture

Yeah because the AR platform wasn't around in the 50's....

oh wait.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

Yeah because the AR platform wasn't around in the 50's....

oh wait.

That fucking waffle mag.

UNF!

 

[TorontoReign]

I only want my wastelander folk wielding pipe pistols and pool cues...because pool cues would be around I guess.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I only want my wastelander folk wielding pipe pistols and pool cues...because pool cues would be around I guess.

In hindsight why the hell are trench-clubs ala WW1 not being used by raiders in Bethesda-verse...That would make way more sense.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a 2x4, a baseball bat, or a pool cue can be far exceeded in damage with basic skills and materials.

 

[TheGM]

A Real Man would use a Bowling Pin with hobnails in it.

 

[TorontoReign]

I want to know why more characters don't use large rocks to bash heads in. Oh right they removed those.

 

[Atomic Postman]

I only want my wastelander folk wielding pipe pistols and pool cues...because pool cues would be around I guess.

I remember reading in a leak that "Makeshift pipe weapons" were in Fallout 4 and I thought, wow cool we'll get stuff like this

and instead we got this shit

 

[TheGM]

I want to know why more characters don't use large rocks to bash heads in. Oh right they removed those.

This. hell why can't a chuck a dumpster or car at somebody. I tossed a vending machine at some mooks in one of the recent Deus Ex games and I thought why can't there be more of this shit in games that isn't a canned prompt or event.

 

[TorontoReign]

I wanna know why I can't stab a piece of glass in a Fiends eyeball. Why? Because it's too harddddddd.