How would you fix the radio?

MutatedPanda

MutatedPanda

It Wandered In From the Wastes
So, I've seen a few people on this site complain about the radio in the recent Fallout games, and I feel like those people have a valid point. In the recent Fallout games, the radio plays pretty much nothing but music from the 30's up to around the 60's and nothing else (unless you count the Classical Music station from Fallout 4). I was just wondering, if Bethesda came to you and said that you could do anything (and I mean anything) you want with radio in Fallout 4 (without getting rid of it) what would you do?

Personally, I would:
1. Add music from more generations (70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and up)
2. Since it's Boston, have some form of sports radio (similar to 98.5 "The Sports Hub")
 
MutatedPanda said:
So, I've seen a few people on this site complain about the radio in the recent Fallout games, and I feel like those people have a valid point. In the recent Fallout games, the radio plays pretty much nothing but music from the 30's up to around the 60's and nothing else (unless you count the Classical Music station from Fallout 4). I was just wondering, if Bethesda came to you and said that you could do anything (and I mean anything) you want with radio in Fallout 4 (without getting rid of it) what would you do?

Personally, I would:
1. Add music from more generations (70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and up)
2. Since it's Boston, have some form of sports radio (similar to 98.5 "The Sports Hub")
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God please no. I like the radio just fine as it is now. It adds to the setting of the games, it introduces young people to really good oldies music, and it introduces me to a lot of songs I've never heard of before. Adding modern music wouldn't make much sense anyway given Fallout's world pretty much completely seperates from our's around the mid-1950s. In fact I doubt a lot of modern day instruments like the electric guitar could even exist in Fallout's universe given the fact that their tech is stuck in the 50s alongside nuclear fission. Dubstep and pretty much any kind of song with computer editing definitely couldn't exist given the state of computers in the Fallout universe.

Though I am quite miffed at Bethesda for, instead of introducing new songs onto the radio, they just threw in the entire soundtrack from Fallout 3 with maybe 5 new songs. I thought that was a complete cop-out. Like really, they couldn't have found more songs and had to just reuse the same ones?

More importantly the dumbasses in Fallout 4 can't even bother to clean up the skeletons inside their diners and homes. What makes you think they'd make sports and entire sports teams? Now you just sound like John Henry Eden.
 
More country music plz
The New Vegas/Mojave radio was fine, except for Jhonny bloody Guitar and some other. I think my chatacter could sit at a ledge with some Sass or alcohol and hear the radio all day. It's funny how a lot of the songs "speak" about the game away from nuclear-y songs.
 
The main issue, is that it's too much like a limited version of GTA radio stations, in that you have some jokey commentary on the main characters exploits, with too few music tracks to break it up. Rockstar has a long history of putting a ton of effort into both licensing music and making amusing radio segments; the jokey fake ads and talk radio for example. Fallout 3 through 4 just recycle a very small number of tracks, which gets grating over time. The chatter is often only so much. It all gets very repetitious over time. Fallout 4's cheapness in not licensing enough music doesn't help either, and adding novelty songs that mimic old jazz tunes is...awful. I'd be fine if they'd just add more music from the past. The radio is just as shallow as the main game. Just think of how many hours of content can be found in just GTA 3 alone, a game that's how old now?

Have music from the '70s and up? GOD NO. That'd break all immersion in the game world, and would make little to no sense. Remember, the world of Fallout before the Great War was a world that continued the traditions and technology of mostly the '40s.

A sports radio station could be amusing, or if they had done something like have competing raider factions take on the names of old sports teams. It'd make for some funny infighting. Hell, if some wastelanders formed a religion around baseball, they could then broadcast radio prayers mixed with sports jargon. It's amusing when Fallout shows how people often misread things from the past, like the town of Novac in New Vegas being derived from a sign that only meant No Vacancy.
 
Ragemage said:
God please no. I like the radio just fine as it is now. It adds to the setting of the games, it introduces young people to really good oldies music, and it introduces me to a lot of songs I've never heard of before. Adding modern music wouldn't make much sense anyway given Fallout's world pretty much completely seperates from our's around the mid-1950s. In fact I doubt a lot of modern day instruments like the electric guitar could even exist in Fallout's universe given the fact that their tech is stuck in the 50s alongside nuclear fission. Dubstep and pretty much any kind of song with computer editing definitely couldn't exist given the state of computers in the Fallout universe.
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No, Fallout 1 and 2 definitely suggested a pretty large 80s influence as well.
 
Truthfully? The 50s music starts to become irritating after sometime and with the small selection it just makes the same songs even more irritating. I felt New Vegas had a better music palette that just fit everything significantly better. Although considered Bethesda's remark about Fallout is about killing stuff to 50s music I don't forsee any change.

I would like a 70s, 80s, and 90s grunge available because Fallout's hints toward countermovement often pointing toward punk/grunge. If I'm not mistaken Tactics had some tracks like that right? Or am I misremembering and thinking of the POS? Anyways if that's too much I don't think reggae would be too much of stretch, that was 60s so it technically fits the time period. Imagine listening to some Marley talk about peace while you slaughter raiders. While we are talking about time period correct music I discovered a mod for New Vegas that adds a new radio station Surf Vegas Radio, and has some pretty radical tracks the DJ the author put in is pretty lackluster but so is Travis in F4.
 
Mudguy47 said:
Truthfully? The 50s music starts to become irritating after sometime and with the small selection it just makes the same songs even more irritating. I felt New Vegas had a better music palette that just fit everything significantly better. Although considered Bethesda's remark about Fallout is about killing stuff to 50s music I don't forsee any change.

I would like a 70s, 80s, and 90s grunge available because Fallout's hints toward countermovement often pointing toward punk/grunge. If I'm not mistaken Tactics had some tracks like that right? Or am I misremembering and thinking of the POS? Anyways if that's too much I don't think reggae would be too much of stretch, that was 60s so it technically fits the time period. Imagine listening to some Marley talk about peace while you slaughter raiders. While we are talking about time period correct music I discovered a mod for New Vegas that adds a new radio station Surf Vegas Radio, and has some pretty radical tracks the DJ the author put in is pretty lackluster but so is Travis in F4.
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You're thinking of BOS when it comes to modern music, and that game is exactly why I'm against modern music in these games.

And yeah, the 50s music may get grating after a while, but if they added more genres you'd soon get sick of listening to those on repeat too. It isn't like they'd add new radio stations to accomodate these new tracks, no, they'd stick them alongside the 50s music.

What I want is a "hidden" station of sorts that plays exclusive music you can't hear on the other stations. New Vegas kinda had something like this. In the Mysterious Broadcast, it's mostly songs you can hear on the other stations, but there are 2 on it you can only hear there. One being "Begin Again" which is apparently sung by Vera Keyes and is absolutely beautiful, and the other is one of the other ambiance songs. "Sleepy Town Blues" is the name of it I believe. I want something like that but for all the music to be exclusive. New Vegas did have some hidden tracks in their game though, like in the Tops Casino once you complete the talent search sidequest, which I can appreciate 100%.

Bethesda meanwhile took the entire soundtrack from FO3 for no reason and stuck it into FO4 but didn't compensate with extra songs. No, there's maybe 5-7 new songs alongside all the songs we've already heard a trillion times. I never understood why the fuck they did that but it pissed me off.
 
Ragemage said:
You're thinking of BOS when it comes to modern music, and that game is exactly why I'm against modern music in these games.
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Hey it's understandable why you wouldn't but like you said later, hidden stations. There needs to be more than two real stations for that to work.

Ragemage said:
One being "Begin Again" which is apparently sung by Vera Keyes and is absolutely beautiful, and the other is one of the other ambiance songs. "Sleepy Town Blues" is the name of it I believe. I want something like that but for all the music to be exclusive. New Vegas did have some hidden tracks in their game though, like in the Tops Casino once you complete the talent search sidequest, which I can appreciate 100%.

Bethesda meanwhile took the entire soundtrack from FO3 for no reason and stuck it into FO4 but didn't compensate with extra songs. No, there's maybe 5-7 new songs alongside all the songs we've already heard a trillion times. I never understood why the fuck they did that but it pissed me off.
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Well Begin Again and those Tops songs are all made in house by Obsidian as someone pointed out in the Secrets topic in the New Vegas discussion area. Fallout 4 has some original songs, those sung by Magnolia in Goodneighbor and they rarely appear on Diamond City Radio.
 
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Right, I know! That's what I'm saying. I want a whole station made up of music composed in-house. Preferrably by Obsidian doing remakes of older songs like they did with the Tops, because honestly Magnolia's songs are pretty bland lyric-wise. They're all about sex. Every single one of them. Meanwhile Obsidian covered by 2 favorite western songs, Streets of Laredo and Red River Valley, but with a Fallout twist, turning them into New Reno and New Vegas Valley. Let's also not forget about Home on the Wastes. :D Obsidian could definitely make a whole station out of in-house songs, I'd trust them with it.
 
Apparently the Classical Radio on Fallout 4 was shit as well.

I would rather the radios have some real purpose in game. News broadcasts make sense in (relatively safe) places like New Vegas but wouldn't make sense in more hostile environments. If you do have radios in wastelands then they shouldn't be playing music. They should be sending out distress signals and stuff like that.

If you do have radios playing music at least give the radio some reason to exist. The radios in Fallout New Vegas (apart from Mojave Music Radio) are all explained and make sense (my personal favourite being Black Mountain's: a satellite dish taken over by an insane Nightkin).
 
Earth said:
Apparently the Classical Radio on Fallout 4 was shit as well.

I would rather the radios have some real purpose in game. News broadcasts make sense in (relatively safe) places like New Vegas but wouldn't make sense in more hostile environments. If you do have radios in wastelands then they shouldn't be playing music. They should be sending out distress signals and stuff like that.

If you do have radios playing music at least give the radio some reason to exist. The radios in Fallout New Vegas (apart from Mojave Music Radio) are all explained and make sense (my personal favourite being Black Mountain's: a satellite dish taken over by an insane Nightkin).
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I actually do wonder what was up with the Mojave Music Station. There's no explanation for it, no announcer, and it plays everywhere outside of the DLCs. Where's it broadcasting from? Maybe it's also made by Mr. House like New Vegas Radio, in case people get tired of Mr. New Vegas's chatter.
 
Ragemage said:
Right, I know! That's what I'm saying. I want a whole station made up of music composed in-house. Preferrably by Obsidian doing remakes of older songs like they did with the Tops, because honestly Magnolia's songs are pretty bland lyric-wise. They're all about sex. Every single one of them. Meanwhile Obsidian covered by 2 favorite western songs, Streets of Laredo and Red River Valley, but with a Fallout twist, turning them into New Reno and New Vegas Valley. Let's also not forget about Home on the Wastes. :D Obsidian could definitely make a whole station out of in-house songs, I'd trust them with it.
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I definitely loved Obsidian's in-house stuff, grade A music. Magnolia's is, like you said, about sex and the occasional nuclear subject thrown is for shits and giggles.
Earth said:
Apparently the Classical Radio on Fallout 4 was shit as well.
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I liked the classical station because it didn't have a shitty DJ. :shrug: Well actually it didn't have one at all. I just turn the radio sound setting down and played that most of the time.
Earth said:
I would rather the radios have some real purpose in game. News broadcasts make sense in (relatively safe) places like New Vegas but wouldn't make sense in more hostile environments. If you do have radios in wastelands then they shouldn't be playing music. They should be sending out distress signals and stuff like that.
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There was the Hoover Dam broadcast at the end of the game, really gave the battle some character and is actually related to the objective at hand.
 
I would put in some old civil defense messages, old commercials, new commericals from post war sponsors, a sea shanty station with New England sea shanties and songs. Perhaps actual Irish cultural music and some proper bagpipes. You know LGR has a pretty good playlist on his youtube channel
 
Arnust said:
More country music plz
The New Vegas/Mojave radio was fine, except for Jhonny bloody Guitar and some other. I think my chatacter could sit at a ledge with some Sass or alcohol and hear the radio all day. It's funny how a lot of the songs "speak" about the game away from nuclear-y songs.
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You can get a mod for Fallout 4 that adds the Radio New Vegas and Mojave Music Radio songs, it can be found here:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10192/?
 
There is classic music in New Vegas too, actually. It is heard in the Ultra-Luxe casino, in the same way you hear radio music around the Strip.
And i think the Mojave music radio was intended to be "located" in that location, Lone Wolf radio or something was called.
Risewild said:
You can get a mod for Fallout 4 that adds the Radio New Vegas and Mojave Music Radio songs, it can be found here:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10192/?
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I know i already used it xD
 
Mudguy47 said:
There was the Hoover Dam broadcast at the end of the game, really gave the battle some character and is actually related to the objective at hand.
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Can you hear it when siding with the legion?
 
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