I got my 15 seconds of fame

[John Uskglass]

How about you go over there and fight, kiddo?

I plan to learn some Arabic and Turkish before I go over, but I plan to.

Yeah, some fucker that I've never heard of and don't care about is really worth the lives of hundreds of our kids.

They're not kids. That's demeaning. They're adults. They made a conscious descision to fight for thier country.

Al Sadr? You don't know who Al Sadr is?

Anger isn't always a bad thing. Especially not in this case.

Yeah, just look at Vietnam, anger certainly helped the war protestors prolong the war effort!

 

[Malky]

They're not kids. That's demeaning. They're adults. They made a conscious descision to fight for thier country.

Al Sadr? You don't know who Al Sadr is?

It's not demeaning, I call everyone "kid." It's just a slang term.

And yes, 18-19-20 = kid.

Yeah, just look at Vietnam, anger certainly helped the war protestors prolong the war effort!

Don't tell me you actually agree with the Vietnam war.

 

[Jebus]

Greatest army in human history, despite whatever Belgian pissant minister might say to the contrary.

He never said the American Army wasn't big, he just said that they unnecissarily squander recources, and their efficiency is lacking.

Plus: I found that entire episode actually quite humiliating for you Americans. The guy says these things in an interview, the US embassy immediately translates it and ships it to Washington, and before you know it you have a minor diplomatic crisis on your hands.

American politicians are pathetic. If they even call constructive criticism "insulting an ally" and "disrespecting our braaave booooys in Iraq"...

Sjeesh.

 

[Tayl]

Yeah, just look at Vietnam, anger certainly helped the war protestors prolong the war effort!

You can't be serious. How in the world did protestors make the war last longer? I'm confused.

 

[Roshambo]

On a side note:

Vote Cthulhu, he's the only candidate that is reliable to do his thing!

 

[Brutulf]

Hehe...

Blah, go Nader!

 

[SuAside]

It's not demeaning, I call everyone "kid." It's just a slang term.

And yes, 18-19-20 = kid.

actually there are kids fighting on the 'allied' side of things

each time the US/UK sets foot on Iraqi soil, they had kids as young as 16(!) fighting for them (although there are no figures about the most recent war yet)

it was a big scandal in the UK back then and it turned out the US was doing the same thing

 

[WaterGirl]

They're not kids. That's demeaning. They're adults. They made a conscious descision to fight for thier country.

Not necessarily. You can be seventeen, which technically is not an adult in this country. You just need your parents' permission. Although I do agree that it is voluntary.

Just a point of clarification. I'm still completely against the war and Bush as president.

 

[John Uskglass]

Vote Cthulhu, he's the only candidate that is reliable to do his thing!

Indeed!
Ia Ia Chtuhlue Fhtang!

You can't be serious. How in the world did protestors make the war last longer? I'm confused

They made it a partisan issue for the Republicans. If they had not been as violent, or as annoying, it would not have fealt so bad pulling out of Vietnam.

He never said the American Army wasn't big, he just said that they unnecissarily squander recources, and their efficiency is lacking.

I did'nt say he called it small. I said he said what you said. And he's wrong, and moronic.

Don't tell me you actually agree with the Vietnam war.

Yes and no....mostly no. But the anger, the hatred made it last alot longer.

Be honest. When has anger *EVER* legitimized a political agenda.

 

[Jebus]

I did'nt say he called it small. I said he said what you said. And he's wrong, and moronic.

I love the way you keep calling people who simply have to be more knowledgeable on the subject than you moronic without giving any arguments to back those accusations up.

You're nothing but baked air, CCR.

 

[Tayl]

They made it a partisan issue for the Republicans. If they had not been as violent, or as annoying, it would not have fealt so bad pulling out of Vietnam.

Wow. That's quite a spin on the whole thing. Yep, let's not blame the deceitful government, or the fact that the reasons for being in the war were all wrong, or the fact that people were being drafted to fight in a war they didn't believe in. Yep, let's just put the blame squarely on the protestors. Sounds good to me.

 

[John Uskglass]

I did'nt say he called it small. I said he said what you said. And he's wrong, and moronic.

I love the way you keep calling people who simply have to be more knowledgeable on the subject than you moronic without giving any arguments to back those accusations up.

You're nothing but baked air, CCR.

Okay. Firstly, this guy says the worst genocide EVAR happened in North America.

Here's his list

"1. North-America (1492 - ...): 15.000.000
2. Holocaust in Europe (1933-1945); 6.000.000
3. Former Yugoslavia (1991-1999): 800.000
4. Armenia (1915-1918): 1.400.000
5. Pakistan (1971): 1.500.000
6. Manchuria (1930): 200.000
7. South-America (1492-...): 14.000.000
8. Uganda (1971-1979): 300.000
9.Rwanda (1994): 1.000.000
10. South-Africa (1902): 30.000
11. Iraq (1980-1988): 100.000
12. Cambodia (1975): 2.000.000
13. Australia (1824): 10.000 "

Notice how America's is on going?

Ironically, he forgets Leopold the Second, who would fit in there right below Armenia. Not to mention the Cultural Revolution, which killed about 3 times as much as the "North American", nor the Stalinist, and apparently thinks only Jews from the Holocaust count, not gays, political dissidents or Gypsies.

Then he says

"The Americans are throwing so much money at their army that it simply can't function efficiently anymore. When they have to move 15 men from point 'A' to point 'B' they deploy three planes to make sure it works," Flahaut said.

"We deploy one plane, or better still, first check with an ally whether we can't take a ride on their plane.""


http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/eu...ves/001885.html

The guy is worse then an idiot. He's beyond that.

 

[John Uskglass]

Also, this same guy is guilty of corruption for promoting a "friend" to a position he was'nt qualified for and massive fraud against the Belgian army.

 

[John Uskglass]

They made it a partisan issue for the Republicans. If they had not been as violent, or as annoying, it would not have fealt so bad pulling out of Vietnam.

Wow. That's quite a spin on the whole thing. Yep, let's not blame the deceitful government, or the fact that the reasons for being in the war were all wrong, or the fact that people were being drafted to fight in a war they didn't believe in. Yep, let's just put the blame squarely on the protestors. Sounds good to me.

I did'nt say that. I said that the message and the way and the protestors themselves where in large part responsible for proloning the war. IF this had been Mr. Shimp, the friendly neighboorhood Democrat and father of 6 talking about not waning his kids to go to war in Vietnam, everybody would understand and there would not have been the shame of admitting that a bunch of communinst sympathizers where right.

 

[Brutulf]

That seems quite farfetched.

 

[John Uskglass]

That seems quite farfetched.

What does?

 

[Brutulf]

Saying that the people who protested the war caused it to last longer. Thats a pretty bad excuse, in my opinion.

 

[John Uskglass]

Saying that the people who protested the war caused it to last longer. Thats a pretty bad excuse, in my opinion.

It's not really an excuse. It's mostly the fault of a bunch of American politicians and big wigs in the White House.

What I'm saying is that the war protests did'nt help, and very likely prolonged it.

 

[Karkow]

there would not have been the shame of admitting that a bunch of communinst sympathizers where right.

So part of the problem was the protesters for being "a bunch of communist sympathizers" and not the conservative up-tight bigot ass-holes that made it a personal issue?

 

[John Uskglass]

Exactly.