I got Oblivion

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the4thlaw

It Wandered In From the Wastes
All this Oblivion bashing and Bethesda slogging has prompted me to acquire a copy of Oblivion.

my experience with the game was minimal, i've watched many people play it, and i've played it myself for a few hours at a friends house.

I figured I'd better look at what sort of game Fallout 3 may turn out to be so I can more accurately understand all this ranting going on.

being a fan of Arena and Daggerfall, and also owning Morrowind, but not enjoying it that much I was somewhat upset at the hacking apart of the franchise, they've made Oblivion easy for anyone to play, therefore dumbing it down to crap.

I'll admit it's a nice looking game that plays alright, but there's no real depth to it, my character seems to be good at everything, nothing provides a real challenge for him.

reading reviews I read about this dialogue system and the radiant AI, but something must be wrong with my copy... a goblin in the sewers at the start of the game kept falling off a bridge to attack me, then running up the stairs and falling off the bridge again.

and the dialogue.... I talked to one begger NPC who was apparently voiced by 3 different people, when playing that silly speechcraft game his voice was that of the guards, and when I asked him about "Gray Fox" his voice was that of the shopkeepers.... it was cringe-worthy

it the game worth playing? does it get better eventually? I'm just past the first Oblivion gate and I beat the siege of Kvatch.. even though the siege appeared to just consist of imps standing around waiting for something to happen.
 
Don't you love the two different choices of how you get to angle the camera???

On the one hand, you have the first person view, with the little crosshair to show you where you're pointing, making it available to see what you're going to open, like various sack (w00t!!!! corn!!!!). Then you have the "third person" view. The view in which you have no idea what you are pointing at, attacking, or opening, besides the little name that pops up. You cannot efficiently play the game in third person. I think Oblivion would have been 150% better had they implemented a cursor, Diablo style, with the third person view.

Anywho, the radiant AI sucked. I quit the game once I brought Martin to Cloud Top temple or whatever. I couldn't stand it anymore. The only cool part about the game was me becoming a vampire. My Wood Elf looked like he was the most insane pedophile evar!11eleven I want some of the shit Beth was smoking when they made this.

Anywho, quit now and replay Fallout.
 
zioburosky13 said:
I played the game twice and realize how awful this game is.
So I quickly repack it and sell it to my friend.
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Damn, what a bad friend you make :mrgreen:

Personaly I tried to play it two times, but couldn't go really far into the game before getting utterly bored. The main plot is plain unimaginative and the world and the NPC are bland, so the game experience isn't rewarding neither as a linear action-adventure game and even less so as a rogue-like RPG.
I remember one point some guy made about the books you could read along the game and argued it was a great addition to dive into ES lore. But actually games are about exploiting this lore and permit the player to discover it with interesting plots and NPCs, not just alluding to it with 5 pages novels throughout them.

Anyway I repacked it and, unlike you Zioburosky, sold it on an e-auction site :lol:
 
This game was depressingly bad. At first I was mindlessly entertained, and played it alot because I just wanted to get to join the Dark Brotherhood. There was just too much running around on boring quests -- and somehow my bounty would always escalate into the thousands...making it hard to go to any cities. My PC runs it horribly slow too. I really hope that F3 is as far removed from this crap as possible.

Um.. so... anywa.., if anyone knows someone in the market, dude it's at 1.00! Buy it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280140389335&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=018

(please dont mark this as spam! im desperate here!)
 
These are valid complaints against Oblivion. Due to the hideous level scaling (what the hell were they thinking?) the game is always far too easy. Even at level one you can venture into the deepest depths of the hardest dungeon and expect to do just fine.

Fortunately, there are some mods that rectify this situation. I would recommend either "Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod" or "Obscuro's Oblivion Overhaul". I personally prefer Francesco's mod, but Obscuro's is also quite popular. What these mods do is mostly eliminate the idiotic level scaling and generally make the game harder. They also add new side-quests and even new items. And Obscuro's mod makes a number of changes to the combat system itself.

Without Francesco's mod I got to Cloud Ruler Temple and gave up out of boredom. A year or so later I retried it with Francesco's mod and had fun all the way to the end of the main storyline.

If you're playing Oblivion, you really shouldn't be playing without one of those two mods.

For your convenience I've included links to both mods.

Obscuro's Oblivion Overhaul
http://jorgeoscuro.googlepages.com/

Francesco's Leveled Creatures/Items Mod
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=268


Oh, and you might also want to consider getting a mod for the interface as well. I suggest BTMod.

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=25

Without these mods Oblivion is merely mediocre at best, but with them, its like a whole new game.
 
I got Martin to Cloud Temple, the part where all the Blades drew their swords and say "hail martin" or some bollocks made me quit the game

the voice acting is disgusting, and I don't want to sound sexist here, but the female voice acting was far far worse than the male acting, it's like the voice actors didn't even know the difference between acting a shop keeper, and acting a hardened elite soldier.

"yeah emperor woo.. yeah... hail......... ............... ...... woo"

one thing that gets to me is the little things too, when I was looking for a place to stay the night I went into an inn where everything was expensive and i was making transactions that were 50-150 gold (selling buying etc), but when I asked for a bed, the line was priceless "we have beds for anyone who can afford the 10 coins"

OH MY GOD 10 FREAKING COINS!!! I just made 40 coins off rat meat and suddenly the prospect of shelling out 10 measly coins for a bed is unheard of.

another really annoying little thing, the stables outside imperial city run by the orc (who obviously eats horses), half of the lines said by her weren't even complete, the subtitle would say one thing and the sound would be a portion of that, and then when the character "burped" (it was comical you see, i was asking if they ate horses and she said no, the burp was a giveaway OMG LOL ROFL) the burp noise was made by a completely different voice actor and the character showed no emotion when belching

lip synced burps are all that i ask for!!!!!

I'll throw on one of those mods and see how i go now, I'm tempted to just play FEAR instead, i got both of them on the weekend
 
It's definitely improved by mods, but none really touch/fix the main quest. The only quest tree worth bothering with really is the Dark Brotherhood one, which is quite nice (if linear). Worth noting the big mods, like Obscuros require a fresh start (at least the last time I checked) - if your some way in and cba restarting, your humped. Quest wise, Shivering Isles (if you got that in a bundle) is a lot more interesting, but the world is pretty dull and uninspired.

I've had most fun playing with the construction kit tbh, if you've got a creative twang (or enjoyed playing with Lego) give it a shot, it's very easy to pick up and it's quite rewarding building your own stuff.

Offtopic:
You mention FEAR, I found the guns locked on burst to be annoying - but there's quite a nice mod out there that makes the rifle semi auto. If it bugs you, it's worth looking up.
 
the4thlaw said:
I got Martin to Cloud Temple, the part where all the Blades drew their swords and say "hail martin" or some bollocks made me quit the game

the voice acting is disgusting, and I don't want to sound sexist here, but the female voice acting was far far worse than the male acting, it's like the voice actors didn't even know the difference between acting a shop keeper, and acting a hardened elite soldier.

"yeah emperor woo.. yeah... hail......... ............... ...... woo"

one thing that gets to me is the little things too, when I was looking for a place to stay the night I went into an inn where everything was expensive and i was making transactions that were 50-150 gold (selling buying etc), but when I asked for a bed, the line was priceless "we have beds for anyone who can afford the 10 coins"

OH MY GOD 10 FREAKING COINS!!! I just made 40 coins off rat meat and suddenly the prospect of shelling out 10 measly coins for a bed is unheard of.

another really annoying little thing, the stables outside imperial city run by the orc (who obviously eats horses), half of the lines said by her weren't even complete, the subtitle would say one thing and the sound would be a portion of that, and then when the character "burped" (it was comical you see, i was asking if they ate horses and she said no, the burp was a giveaway OMG LOL ROFL) the burp noise was made by a completely different voice actor and the character showed no emotion when belching

lip synced burps are all that i ask for!!!!!

I'll throw on one of those mods and see how i go now, I'm tempted to just play FEAR instead, i got both of them on the weekend
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FEAR Combat is free, and suprisingly, you'll get four times more fun out of that than out of Oblivion.

Personally, Oblivion was a trainwreck. I actually liked Morrowind quite alot (that is, after a bunch of mods), where some people didn't - that's okay; but when I got around to playing Oblivion.. I mean damn.

I had written a list at one point, of the things that were wrong with Oblivion. I recall the pen running out of ink before I could finish it. :P
 
DarkLegacy, did you by any chance try any of the mods I mentioned?

Without those mods Oblivion really isn't worth playing in my opinion, but with them Oblivion actually shapes up into a reasonably good game, which seems to be the case with all of Bethesda's games. I even found that Morrowind needed a lot of mods to be truly playable.

Once you get them installed though, its quite fun to play through Oblivion and Morrowind.

As for starting a new game with the mods I mentioned it used to be necessary, but thanks to a new modding tool available its no longer required as long as you follow the install procedure.
 
Firov said:
DarkLegacy, did you by any chance try any of the mods I mentioned?

Without those mods Oblivion really isn't worth playing in my opinion, but with them Oblivion actually shapes up into a reasonably good game, which seems to be the case with all of Bethesda's games. I even found that Morrowind needed a lot of mods to be truly playable.

Once you get them installed though, its quite fun to play through Oblivion and Morrowind.

As for starting a new game with the mods I mentioned it used to be necessary, but thanks to a new modding tool available its no longer required as long as you follow the install procedure.
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No, I haven't tried the mods yet, but it wouldn't hurt. ;)

I tried Shivering Isles for Oblivion.. and I quit the game after about 30 minutes. Just, ugh. :x

Edit: I've beaten the game already. (Forgot to mention.)
 
I really sort of liked a large amount of the shivering isles.

The whole madness thing made it have a unique character all of its own.
 
sickfuck_diablo said:
I really hope that F3 is as far removed from this crap as possible.
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Oh? I had the opposite problem - my PC ran too damn fast even with a Speed of 55.
Made horses entirely redundant (since you can't fight on them)
 
the4thlaw said:
then when the character "burped" (it was comical you see, i was asking if they ate horses and she said no, the burp was a giveaway OMG LOL ROFL) the burp noise was made by a completely different voice actor and the character showed no emotion when belching

lip synced burps are all that i ask for!!!!!
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She didn't open her mouth so that you wouldn't see the horseshoe, you moron! (j/k) ;)
 
I don't think any mods could help this game... my problem wasn't with the leveling (although if I got further I'm sure it would have pissed me off) but just the boring ass story, and characters... I mean, everyone I was supposed to help kind of annoyed me in some way. So I always wanted to screw them over somehow. I don't even want to make a copy of this game, it's all packed up and ready for ebay.
 
Hell, just burn over it if you can. You might get two dollars on eBay. Burning your favorite 12 songs(or whatever) would be better.
 
Meh the game has its faults, is it worst ever nope have seen worse. But its no Daggerfall thats for sure, only thing worth playing in Oblivion are the MOD'S, altough KoTN wasnt that bad. Same with Freelancer nice game, but boy did the main plot go wrong way, but yet again MOD'S save the game.
 
On a completely unrelated note, am i the only one here that thinks "I got Oblivion" sounds a little like "I got herpes"? ;[]
 
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