John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Wow. Thats a flat out lie. Close to 60% voted. Prove me wrong, and Ill prove you wrong.Ozrat said:Especially since less than half of the eligible voting population voted anyways...
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Venerable Relic of the Wastes
I threw my vote away for Nader.
The electoral process was created to keep the "ignorant masses" from voting in a President that would be unqualified to serve. This was useful 150 years ago, but now it seems a little too corrupt of a policy.
I can't really find too many faults with Bush anymore, he seemed to handle himself well during and after 9-11. Before was a different story, I wasn't sure how good he would perform on domestic policies. His foreign policy is starting to remind me of Rome before they started to fail, and maybe I will vote again this time.....
Still undecided.
My first and probably last post in a political thread, I just hate arguing this topic.
The electoral process was created to keep the "ignorant masses" from voting in a President that would be unqualified to serve. This was useful 150 years ago, but now it seems a little too corrupt of a policy.
I can't really find too many faults with Bush anymore, he seemed to handle himself well during and after 9-11. Before was a different story, I wasn't sure how good he would perform on domestic policies. His foreign policy is starting to remind me of Rome before they started to fail, and maybe I will vote again this time.....
Still undecided.
My first and probably last post in a political thread, I just hate arguing this topic.
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
60%? I thought it was around 50% too. Someone got a source on this?
Also, it's still not a lot. In Holland, 70% would be considered drastically low and it's always around 80% (79.0% in 2002, 79.9% in 2003 (no, we don't have elections every year, but the dumbass government of 2002 collapsed))
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
People forget that when you look at the US you are looking at something as big as the EU in it's current entirerty. I am fairly confident if you counted the entire EU, voting population would be at 60%, maybe if only for EU matters much, much less (approaching 20%).Kharn said:
Though, of course, we still have a higher average income then any of you broke ass commies.
ConstinpatedCraprunner said:
EU matters have an average turn-up of 20-30%. Nobody cares.
Your remark was very stupid, tho'. It shouldn't matter how big a country is, because this is a bloody *percentage* that's voting.
I'm sure some countries have lower voting populations. The UK is at 70% I think, but Belgium has 99%.
No real idea what the average is. Anyone?
CC said:
You also have 12.7% of the population below the poverty line.
Gwydion said:
America is 12.7% communist?
Heh, guess the Red Scare didn't do the trick
Gwydion said:
Hey I'm below the poverty line.
The nation wide poverty line isn't very low, I still can afford to live by myself, and drive a new car. Besides, cost of living is different in different ares.And I'm not a communist, I'm wavering between Libertarian and Socialist. True socialist as written by Marx, if it works, it could be the best way for a country to work. Libertarion describes me best though.
Daemon Spawn
Old Warrior of the Wastes
WTF you're in between Libertarian and Socialist? How does that work? Those are two opposite ideologies.
That's like saying that Mexico is in between the North Pole and the South Pole.
Far Left ------------------------------------------------------- Far Right
Communism-Socialism-Moderate-Conservativism-Libertarian-Nazi/Fascist
That's like saying that Mexico is in between the North Pole and the South Pole.
Far Left ------------------------------------------------------- Far Right
Communism-Socialism-Moderate-Conservativism-Libertarian-Nazi/Fascist
Yeah, I'm very dualistic in nature. I agree with one sometimes, then the other. I don't know why.
Daemon Spawn
Old Warrior of the Wastes
Hehe that's cool.
Living in the USA, I dislike the economic policies of Dems, and i dislike the social policies of Repubs.
So I see where you're coming from
Living in the USA, I dislike the economic policies of Dems, and i dislike the social policies of Repubs.
So I see where you're coming from
It depends on what type of socialist and libertarian you are. I'm a socialist libertarian. Socialist being the economic system, and libertarian the system of government control.
www.politicalcompass.org
Read that site.
Daemon Spawn said:Hehe that's cool.
Living in the USA, I dislike the economic policies of Dems, and i dislike the social policies of Repubs.
So I see where you're coming from
Jesse Ventura ran for governor as an Independent, fiscally conservative, socially liberal . That's why I voted for him.
Of course, getting the bottom line of those two stances to agree is a problem, but the idea is what's important, especially in his case.
Sander said:
Great site Sander!
-bookmark-
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Figured you as such. I personally have some Democratic Socialist leanings, but am efectively a Neo-Con.Sander said:
I took the test a while ago when it was on DaC and I got results that were shockingly similar to the Dali Lama. I can live with that.Sander said:
Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
That's me. Pretty extreme.
Oh, one thing I've been wanting to say: does anyone else feel that the inclusion of and Anarchist's book(as in, how anarchism works, what it is etc.) in the documents part of the software list of Debian GNU/Linux???? ehehe....
Oh, and go do the iconochasms bit. It seems to be changed regularly. I've already seen some I hadn't seen a year ago. really interesting, that.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
That's me. Pretty extreme.
Oh, one thing I've been wanting to say: does anyone else feel that the inclusion of and Anarchist's book(as in, how anarchism works, what it is etc.) in the documents part of the software list of Debian GNU/Linux???? ehehe....
Oh, and go do the iconochasms bit. It seems to be changed regularly. I've already seen some I hadn't seen a year ago. really interesting, that.
Sander said:
See, someone else sees things the way I do. I think pure socialism can't work, too open to corruption. Libertarianism, doesn't involve itself enough, just lets people fend for themselves, and the government should be required to help those that can't help themselves.
John Uskglass
Venerable Relic of the Wastes
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64
I am Tony Blair.
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.64
I am Tony Blair.
Daemon Spawn
Old Warrior of the Wastes
Ok I am amazed at my results.
Economic Left/Right: .25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.59
About as close to 0 as I could be hahaha.
Getting closer to becoming the non-entity.....
Economic Left/Right: .25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -.59
About as close to 0 as I could be hahaha.
Getting closer to becoming the non-entity.....