If You're *That* Distraught Over Bush's Reelection:

[«ºTone Caponeº»]

Please follow this guy's example:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137837,00.html

Ground Zero Suicide Driven by Election
Sunday, November 07, 2004

NEW YORK — A 25-year-old man from Georgia who was apparently distraught over President Bush's re-election shot and killed himself at ground zero. Andrew Veal (search)'s body was found Saturday morning inside the off-limits site, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. A shotgun was found nearby, but no suicide note was found, Coleman said.

Veal's mother said her son was upset about the result of the presidential election and had driven to New York, Gus Danese, president of the Port Authority Police Benevolent Association, told The New York Times in Sunday's editions.

Friends said Veal worked in a computer lab at the University of Georgia and was planning to marry.

"I'm absolutely sure it's a protest," Mary Anne Mauney, Veal's supervisor at the lab, told The Daily News. "I don't know what made him commit suicide, but where he did it was symbolic."

Police were investigating how Veal entered the former World Trade Center site, which is protected by high fences and owned by the Port Authority.

Or at least shut up because the whining is getting atrocious.

 

[Gonzalez]

Now that's a smart thing to do! Kill yourself over Bush.

What an idiot!

 

[Member of Khans]

OUCH!

you're right...what an idiot...

 

[Dapper Dan Man]

Hoo-ray for natural selection!

 

[alec]

Or at least shut up because the whining is getting atrocious.

Oh, it is, eh? And here I was, thinking that
[1] everyone is still entitled to formulate his own opinion
[2] no one is forced to listen to it or read it

"Atrocious whining" is a very subjective thing, methinks.

 

[calculon000]

I'm pretty sure even whining is covered by free speech.

And that guy probably deserves a darwin award.

 

[The Vault Dweller]

There has to be more to it than that! I mean politics is depressing, but he must have done it either to send a message (in which case he would leave a note which he didnt) or because the election meant more to him than most people. I dont mean to take the his side, but for all we know he convinced a relative to go to Iraq who ended up dying has lived with the guilt ever since then feeling he must stop it gave himself up.

Dont point fingers at me. I dont think what he did was right. It justs reminds me of the time when I lived in LA a guy made a scene with a high-speed chase at the end of which he unfurled a banner of protest then killed himself. He did such a sensational thing for attention. Though misguided he did have good intentions so I cant put him down.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

 

[Montez]

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~adamsb6/elections/

 

[«ºTone Caponeº»]

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~adamsb6/elections/

Care to summarize what I should gain from that? I've heard all that stuff on the news, a few thousand here, a few thousand there.

Sorry...long days at work shortens my attention span at home.

 

[Montez]

Care to summarize what I should gain from that? I've heard all that stuff on the news, a few thousand here, a few thousand there.

It's basically about how Florida had more votes than voters and some stats about how votes tallied on different manufacturer's machines. Just pointing out that although you and others are sick of hearing about the election, the discussion about a race that close and controversial isn't going to die down for some time, and shouldn't die down if we want to avoid messes like this in the future and create a voting system that is above suspicion or reproach.

 

[Jebus]

was planning to marry.

The poor thing.

 

[MrMarcus]

The thing that is bothering me the most is the lack of accountability with these programs. There's no paper trail, no "voting receipt" to use as a fail-safe, no way to make sure the program is totalling the votes right.

Nickles and dimes add up in the end. All it would take is one smart-ass.

 

[welsh]

Honestly, that we can have an election in the US and screw up the voting is amazing.

I read about the suicide in the Wall Street Journal the other day. I think it was also on CNN. Makes you wonder how ugly his bride was. Crazy for someone to commit suicide over this.

Still you compassionate conservatives really know your compassion. Remember, if you want to wear your "good moral values" on your sleeves, you still got to live by them.

Considering how extreme some folks are taking this election result, you got to wonder what else might happen. Someone who thinks that this is might worth sucide might think about other ways to protest violently. But that's a consequence of a divided country.

 

[Gonzalez]

Hmm... Get's me thinking about it.
Maybe if the Americans begin to fight each other it may mean the beginning of the fall of the US as a superpower?
The history speaks of this happening before.

I have a view about this:
Democrats: The Union
Republican: The Rebels

 

[Jabbapop]

how are the democrats the union of the republican's are in power? if anything, it would more be like star wars.

 

[welsh]

You forget that southerners were often in power before the civil war.

 

[Member of Khans]

how are the democrats the union of the republican's are in power?

I know my English isn't the best at 0:20 in the morning...
but: does that sentence make sense?
What do you want to say???

(maybe it was one beer too much and i cant read any more... )

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

how are the democrats the union of the republican's are in power?

I know my English isn't the best at 0:20 in the morning...
but: does that sentence make sense?

Replace "of" with "if". Better?

how are the democrats the union if the republican's are in power?

Maybe he said that because the South is mostly Republican. That's right, gorram Texas...if you don't vote Republican then your vote doesn't count.

 

[Member of Khans]

aha... :sorry: i see i really should go to bed now...

hmm... nice theory

"The Second American Civil War - In your country this spring" - or what?

 

[«ºTone Caponeº»]

Honestly, that we can have an election in the US and screw up the voting is amazing.

I read about the suicide in the Wall Street Journal the other day. I think it was also on CNN. Makes you wonder how ugly his bride was. Crazy for someone to commit suicide over this.

Still you compassionate conservatives really know your compassion. Remember, if you want to wear your "good moral values" on your sleeves, you still got to live by them.

Considering how extreme some folks are taking this election result, you got to wonder what else might happen. Someone who thinks that this is might worth sucide might think about other ways to protest violently. But that's a consequence of a divided country.

I'm compassionate and very conservative, but I don't buy into Bush's compassionate conservatism (I have mentioned I'm not a Republican, I'm a member of the Constitution Party). In fact I don't even really know what his compassionate conservatism is about except something to sell to liberals to try to get their support.

I'm a pretty hard core conservative.

When it comes to someone committing suicide over the election I don't have compassion because that's one less loone out on the streets. If something upsets you, try to make a difference in a constructive way. The Republicans have ticked me off so I switched to the Constitution Party and have offered my support to them. I've been heading in that direction for years...finally decided I'd had enough with the watering down of the GOP.

Still, I support Bush as a member of the U.S. Military. I remember serving under Clinton and watching in horror as he won reelection over Bob Dole. Bush has definitely had a positive impact on morale in the military-it's no secret that the military overwhelmingly supports him and we were relieved when Bush won reelection.

Anyway...