Internet Explorer losing browser share

If the IE9 previews are any indication, Microsoft's IE development team is feeling the pressure and are trying to compensate. This is good, since it would do the entire web a great service if IE caught up with other browsers or even began to push the envelope a little.

Not that it would overcome the inertia of my Firefox use, but it's still something I would like to see.
 
I still would like to s ee the Iexplorer beeing the most used one. So people contine to make viruses for them since I dont use crapexplorer.
 
And about time too IE has become bloated and slow in its old age, the apathy of being 'market leader' (read also... only thing available) for many years.

Now people are finally realising that just because something has the word Microsoft in, it doesn't mean its any good.

in no way related or anything but this link is really awesome >> Chrome!
 
Maybe I should switch to Chrome. Firefox still has memory leak issues for me. I switched to Opera for a while but it sucks donkey dick.
 
sorry, i cannot take any article seriously that says safari is done by apple/mac rather than mozilla.

safari uses the mozilla core and is done by the mozilla team.

firefox uses the mozilla core and is done by their firefox team.

netscape has 2 browsers.


and seriously? this was the first year on record at the san diego computer security conference that IE was not the first hacked browser... firefox was. and then they promptly went and used the same exploit on safari. because the exploit is in the mozilla core. and because its a java exploit, they are not going to fix it.

thats some real security for ya!
 
Dragula said:
Eh? Opera is terrific.

I liked it well enough for a bit, but I got tired of it not playing nice with websites (I can't even newspost on GameBanshee when using Opera) and its sometimes unintuitive interface. Mostly the website-breaking tho. Loved the update that made all of youtube not work. Loved it.
 
I have a bug with Chrome in windows 7, where the taskbar disappears if I have a browser window maximized. I have to press the Windows key if I want the taskbar back. Quite annoying. I could uncheck "auto-hide the taskbar", but I like the extra space on my screen.

It's almost enough to make me switch back to Firefox, but I hate plugins and fluff and whatchamannot. I like clean, simple and minimalistic browsers.
 
Brother None said:
Maybe I should switch to Chrome. Firefox still has memory leak issues for me.
Chrome consumes more memory per tab than FF, but it doesn't have such horrible memory leaks at least.
 
Brother None said:
I liked it well enough for a bit, but I got tired of it not playing nice with websites (I can't even newspost on GameBanshee when using Opera) and its sometimes unintuitive interface. Mostly the website-breaking tho. Loved the update that made all of youtube not work. Loved it.
While I understand your frustration, that's not Opera's fault. It's the browser that adheres most to web conventions.
So get GameBanshee to fix their crappy website. :twisted:


As for the thread? IE 6.0 still has an insane amount of friggin' users in large companies because a fuckton of their apps were designed for it and they don't play nice with decent browsers.

It's a real shame.
 
Is Chrome good/fast/safe? I tried switching from Firefox to Opera. I saw some numbers where Opera was supposed to be faster, but for me at least Opera wants to load whole pages before displaying anything, whereas Firefox starts to show the beginning of the page while loading, which means I get to start reading the page faster.
 
TheWesDude said:
safari uses the mozilla core and is done by the mozilla team.

firefox uses the mozilla core and is done by their firefox team.

netscape has 2 browsers.
I... What? Safari is developed by Apple. It's rendering engine is WebKit (also used by Chrome and others), which is a fork of KHTML ("popularly" used by Konqueror), which started as a Linux-based project. Firefox is developed by Mozilla and uses the Gecko rendering engine and its roots can be traced back to the Netscape of old. The two are pretty separate.


TheWesDude said:
and seriously? this was the first year on record at the san diego computer security conference that IE was not the first hacked browser... firefox was. and then they promptly went and used the same exploit on safari. because the exploit is in the mozilla core.
Different engines and programs can share vulnerabilities if their implementations of an API or whathaveyou are similar. For instance, there was an issue dealing with HTML headers that multiple browsers were vulnerable to like half a year ago, IIRC.

Not Lost Hope said:
Is Chrome good/fast/safe?
It is, and if you're paranoid about Google snooping on you, try SRWare Iron. It's just a modified build of Chromium, the open-source base of Chrome, which gives you essentially the full Chrome experience but without all the Google.
 
Not Lost Hope said:
Is Chrome good/fast/safe? I tried switching from Firefox to Opera. I saw some numbers where Opera was supposed to be faster, but for me at least Opera wants to load whole pages before displaying anything, whereas Firefox starts to show the beginning of the page while loading, which means I get to start reading the page faster.

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How hard is it to find it? I am quite curious.

Chrome is not a "background browser" due its massive resource usage, but below 20 tabs it should work. It should handle about 40-50 fine, after that it could kill itself.
 
Memory usage isn't really an issue to me, as I have a good PC. But I don't like unnecessary fluff, and I remember Firefox having lots of it.

Anyone think about the bug I mentioned and what it could be?
 
Not Lost Hope said:
Is Chrome good/fast/safe?

good? yes, I've had VERY little issue since switching, only Battlefield Hero's complains at me for not having a compatible browser.

fast? So far Chrome is pissing all over every other browser I've ever used, it loads faster (from the desktop icon) and pages themselves seem faster as well. My overall browsing experience is a lot faster.

safe? its much less bugged than IE releases (Ok, there was bad press early on, but it's been well sorted out now) and without all the add-on's of FF it runs smoother and with less complications but still has good functionality. In the long run, internet safety is more about what spy-ware / anti-virus / firewall you run and your own tendency to visit less than scrupulous web pages. So in that respect, yes its safe, I'd say more so than IE by far.

del_diablo said:
Chrome is not a "background browser" due its massive resource usage, but below 20 tabs it should work. It should handle about 40-50 fine, after that it could kill itself.

50 tabs?? W.T.F :crazy: seriously, that's just poor housekeeping, I browse many viral sites simultaneously, often loading individual images to view, along side forums, and other web pages I keep up with, but all that said I cannot honestly remember ever having 50 tabs open...

So sure, having 50+ tabs open might be a resource issue, but if I ran all the battlefield games at once, the sims, all fallout games and microsoft office all at the same time, I'm sure my computer would baulk at attempting to do so, but I don't do all that at once.

Your comment about having 50+ tabs open is simply irrelevant to pretty much all 'normal' users.
 
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