Interplay annual meeting; Caen is happy
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OnTheBounce
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mrflibble said:
What would that prove?
Did anyone read what the illustrious MCA had to say during the roundtable at IGN on RPG storylines? Basically he said that what a game designer was doing was marketing a power fantasy to gamers.
Well, it seems that people have decided to skip the middle-man and start crafting their own power-fantasies right here on the FO fan-boards. (This goes equally for DaC and NMA.) Yes, that's exactly what notions of a haggard band of netizens rising up w/cyber-pitchforks and cyber-torches to wrestle control of IPLY away from Vivendi is: a power-fantasy. Unfortunately, these fantasies are not even remotely rooted in the clay of reality.
Unless someone in the fanbase either has the money on hand, or comes it it (e.g. via inheritance, lottery or divine providence) and can then buy and give the license to the appropriate people to do w/as they please there's just really nothing the fanbase can do.
Sorry to sound like a nay-sayer, but I think it's time some of you settled down.
OTB
OnTheBounce
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mrflibble said:
That was clever.
Very clever.
Too bad you aren't clever enough to know better than to make a lenghty quote in order to make your tri-syllabic rebuttal.
Incidentally, from the second paragraph on, my previous post wasn't directed at specifically at you, rather it was in a "if the shoe fits" vein.
My apologies if your youthful sense of bravado has been injured, sirrah.
OTB
Trojan Horse
Trojan Horse
Noble concept.
Wonder if it's still difficult to cover American History and politics past 1900. Even then there's enough content to convey the casino aspect of capitalism and the pay-to-play tradition of our American oligarchy.
Noble concept.
EEE-Econ-O-NOM-ics!! IN REAL TIME!! Any medium that would excite the interest long enough to exercise the communication and reasoning skills before sex, drugs, and consumerism hardens the dendrites,
CAN DO NO wrong.
Dendrites ...
By the way what is the corporate structure, the proprietary relationship of Vivendi, Titus, and Interplay?
The way they've been shuffling money around looks dubious, like smoke at best, and the robbing of assets at it's bloodiest.
4too
Trojan Horse
Noble concept.
Wonder if it's still difficult to cover American History and politics past 1900. Even then there's enough content to convey the casino aspect of capitalism and the pay-to-play tradition of our American oligarchy.
Noble concept.
EEE-Econ-O-NOM-ics!! IN REAL TIME!! Any medium that would excite the interest long enough to exercise the communication and reasoning skills before sex, drugs, and consumerism hardens the dendrites,
CAN DO NO wrong.
Dendrites ...
By the way what is the corporate structure, the proprietary relationship of Vivendi, Titus, and Interplay?
The way they've been shuffling money around looks dubious, like smoke at best, and the robbing of assets at it's bloodiest.
4too
Fallout:BOS is Hunter:TR
First time out of the vault
Total number of shares in Interplay is, 93 855 634
So, to purchase those shares (which I'm not sure if they're available or not) would be around 5,631,338.04
I don't know about you guys, but I certainly don't have that kind of dough lying around
I don't know about you guys, but I certainly don't have that kind of dough lying around
The physopathic Polock
Still Mildly Glowing
Fallout:BOS is Hunter:TR said:
93,855,634*8=$750,845,072
$1,000,000,000-$750,845,072=$249,154,928
A mere $249,154,928 wouldn't be enough to push the envelope to drive Titus out. Hell, where could we get $750,845,072?
EDIT: Dammit! Wrong denomination in that one!
93,855,634*$0.08=$7,508,450.72
However, that is just the cost to purchase exactaly 100% of Interplay shares. Still, it's not entirely unreasonable...
King of Creation
Vault Fossil
Well, as of today, IPLY's shares have gone down to $0.075 a share. And we only need 51% of the shares to have majority ownership of the company. Therefore, we'd need to buy 47,866,374 shares (according to percentile ratios), and at $0.075 a share, that means it'd cost $3,589,978.05 to buy ownership of Interplay. I don't know about you, but I don't have the kind of money lying around.
Fallout:BOS is Hunter:TR
First time out of the vault
If you get 5000 people from the Fallout community to each chip in around $700, then there would be enough money.
Fallout:BOS is Hunter:TR
First time out of the vault
Fallout:BOS is Hunter:TR said:
EDIT: If each person buys the shares in his/her own name, then no one is required to file with the SEC that more than 10% of the company is acquired. But, of course once you start buying substantial amounts then availability of shares for that price becomes an issue. On the other hand, if Market Makers are issuing naked short positions to make up for lack of liquidity, then you will perhaps be able to buy the equivalent of the whole company in shares without ownership certificates issued for the purpose of naked shorting.
You wont know the shares have no ownership certificates, when you buy them, of course. You find that out later when you want to use them to vote, etc.
Roshambo said:
Watching this with interest.
ScottE
I understand if you have a NDA, or something, but what reasoning did they give you for the layoffs?? Not fitting in with future objectives, a refocus of the firm, salary costs, having a bad attitude??
I understand if you have a NDA, or something, but what reasoning did they give you for the layoffs?? Not fitting in with future objectives, a refocus of the firm, salary costs, having a bad attitude??
In regards to the specualtions of buying Interplay through public trading:
Titus (and thus the Caen brothers) owns 72% of the stock in Interplay. This means that control of Interplay can't be acquired unless they want to sell.
So in order to buy the company, negotiations needs to be made with Titus directly. And I'm guessing they'll ask a lot more than current market value. Maybe they'll consider it at 20, but I think it's going to take more. They have turned down way better offers in the past (though granted the company was a little more solid at that time).
Titus (and thus the Caen brothers) owns 72% of the stock in Interplay. This means that control of Interplay can't be acquired unless they want to sell.
So in order to buy the company, negotiations needs to be made with Titus directly. And I'm guessing they'll ask a lot more than current market value. Maybe they'll consider it at 20, but I think it's going to take more. They have turned down way better offers in the past (though granted the company was a little more solid at that time).
Takuru
7 million and change....this is whats required to buy out interplay lock, stock, and barrel. Thats 100 percent folks. Thats also assuming that the Caen brothers(may they be molested by 400 pound men straight fron gencon) are willing to sell the (from what was reported) 71 some odd percent that they own at .075 dollars.
Oddly, I think I read once that Titus owns 21 percent...if this is true, then the main obstacle (well the second main obstacle, the first being organization and funding for our venture) is out of the way.
Game plan? Well, I'll tell you what should be done AFTER Interplay is taken from the Caen brothers (Assuming that we pull this off by some miracle, and don't get me wrong, it will take a miracle). First thing that would be done, after appointing the proper officers for the company, would be to sell the Fallout liscense to Troika.
Alot of people have their choice favorites, and most would either point to Obsidian, Troika, or them boys who are making The Fall. I feel Troika would be the best choice, so it's really just my opinion.
Hmm, my post is becoming too chaotic ....let me sum it up real quick.
Buy Iply.
Sell Fallout liscense to Troika.
Use funds gathered from sell of Fallout liscense to buy back the stock bought by players(This is assuming a,"You support our take over, and we reimburse you with interest by buying back what you bought").
Sell the company and get the hell out of dodge. You may ask,"Who would want the company with the FO license gone?" Simple, those who want to rape whats left of the company......
The Laughing Man,
Kerec
7 million and change....this is whats required to buy out interplay lock, stock, and barrel. Thats 100 percent folks. Thats also assuming that the Caen brothers(may they be molested by 400 pound men straight fron gencon) are willing to sell the (from what was reported) 71 some odd percent that they own at .075 dollars.
Oddly, I think I read once that Titus owns 21 percent...if this is true, then the main obstacle (well the second main obstacle, the first being organization and funding for our venture) is out of the way.
Game plan? Well, I'll tell you what should be done AFTER Interplay is taken from the Caen brothers (Assuming that we pull this off by some miracle, and don't get me wrong, it will take a miracle). First thing that would be done, after appointing the proper officers for the company, would be to sell the Fallout liscense to Troika.
Alot of people have their choice favorites, and most would either point to Obsidian, Troika, or them boys who are making The Fall. I feel Troika would be the best choice, so it's really just my opinion.
Hmm, my post is becoming too chaotic ....let me sum it up real quick.
Buy Iply.
Sell Fallout liscense to Troika.
Use funds gathered from sell of Fallout liscense to buy back the stock bought by players(This is assuming a,"You support our take over, and we reimburse you with interest by buying back what you bought").
Sell the company and get the hell out of dodge. You may ask,"Who would want the company with the FO license gone?" Simple, those who want to rape whats left of the company......
The Laughing Man,
Kerec