Islamic Terrorist Mumbai attacks

[PHeller]

A guy in one of my classes and I brought up the subject of forming national identity by giving citizens a "boogey man" to focus on.

The problem with the "War on Terror" is that it doesn't follow its name. The "War on Terror" should be a war of idealogies, we should be trying to shape hearts and minds, not just kill them. Supposedly however, the military is doing much more humanitarian aid in Afghanistan and it's having better results than just hunting al-Queda or the Taliban.

Part of the reason that Obama wants to have a troop increase in Afghan-Pakistan is to secure area so that troops can actually help people and show them the detriment of the Taliban. Besides, many people in Kabul resent the Taliban for destroying much of the countries historical and educational systems.

The recent events in India are just a case of radicalism gone wild, not so much a religious based terrorist attack.

 

[SuAside]

Just read right now. The police officers were armed with 303. Rifles and had bullet proof vests that was ancient. Aditionally many only had riot gear to protect themselves against bullets.

that's not exactly true, for various reasons:
- 'normal' cops are only armed with a club.
- SMLE's in .303 and Ishapore 2A's in .308Win were issued to 'normal' cops after the extent of the attack became apparent. those who also received a flak jacket or riot gear were lucky... most didn't.
- special intervention cops were armed with L1A1's, INSAS, etc (some had MP5's, Stens, etc). some special sniper units also had MSG 90's and Sig 550's.
- the army came in mostly armed with INSAS assault rifles (and variants).

 

[Loxley]

- SMLE's in .303 and Ishapore 2A's in .308Win were issued to 'normal' cops after the extent of the attack became apparent. those who also received a flak jacket or riot gear were lucky... most didn't.

That might be true. Still could not have been very nice to go upp against the terrorists armed like that. Considering the terrorists were armed with ak-47 and was shooting holes in those flak jackets with ease.

 

[SuAside]

well, there's a certain sense of lulz in the fact that the Afghan resistance went up against the russian invaders who were armed with AK-47's and AK-74, using .303 SMLE's and won. (though i suppose the Stingers helped )

anyhow, you should see what a .303 British does to a man, Loxley.

but yeah, those cops probably don't even have the proper training to use them properly and they're certainly not suited for MOUT/Fish&Chips/FIBUA.

 

[Loxley]

India just sent 20k more soldiers to the pakistani border.
Pakistan in response canceled all soldier leaves and put the army on high alert.
Saber rattling or something more?

 

[SuAside]

M.A.D. is still in effect Loxley. neither is stupid enough to go for fullblown invasion shit.

 

[Blakut]

I wonder. If these two countries go at it with nukes, wouldn't it be better for the other nuclear powers NOT to intervene? Not to start a global war? I mean both the Russians and the Americans would benefit from a small scale nuclear war in the terms of scientific study of the effect of nuclear war. The downside would be economic collapse of many stock markets.

 

[Pope Viper]

Intervention does not necessarily mean nuclear.

Bombers taking out known nuclear sites on both sides would be just as effective.