J.E. Sawyer on guns

They're alright I guess but the F3 plasma weapons just look like they belong in a Jules Verne novel or possibly War of the Worlds.

 

I still hope for a comeback of the M72 Gauss Rifle and it's handgun counterpart.
I think that those gauss weapons did fit into the game very well, because they had no rl counterparts.

I mean hey, they have fusion batterys, so it should not be impossible for them to power a railgun.

 

I hope there's an option to drive a gold-painted Lamborghini through the Vegas strip while I duel wield P90s and crump it up in the back seat! Surely the private car collections are as relevant as what LEO/military groups have.

 

You might have to modify it some, but this weapon exists. Sort of. What you see below is a .410 gauge shotgun by Baikal.







Probably wouldn't be impossible to rig it for rifle or pistol ammo, though with the kinds of pressures involved I'm not sure why you'd want to risk something like that. Still an interesting piece of equipment.

 

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Wow, someone actually made this? Wasn't the Taurus Judge ridiculous enough?

I'm a little confused here. What you say is true, in that the timing is important in revolvers. But aside from the early 1800's, pre-Sam Colt revolvers, they aren't exactly finicky: it takes a lot of abuse to get a revolver's timing screwed up, if the gun's built right from the start. Black powder revolvers would get fouled up fast after a few cylinders of shooting, sure (in my experience, after 12-18 shots a BP revolver is basically useless), but once smokeless powder came along, revolvers became vastly more reliable and were pretty much fool proof, and it wasn't until years later that semi-auto handguns came anywhere near to them in reliability. Even now, revolvers are thought of as more reliable than automatics, although both designs are so streamlined at this point that the difference is negligible.

Either way, I think both sides of this discussion are correct: it makes sense that some of the weapons in the FO universe would be ones we see today, as today we still see, use and collect guns from a hundred years ago, so feasibly in 65 years when the war allegedly would have occurred, those same guns would still be availible, as would circa-2077 weapons

 

Well, since there is a dedicated news story on J.E. Sawyer's gun knowledge, I guess this is worth sharing. Mr. Sawyer responded to a post I made on the Beth forums concerning .45-70 gov't and the TC Contender:

Can I just go ahead and say it is outrageously cool that a dev not only knows what .45-70 gov't is, but actually has extensive knowledge of it? You'd think gun knowledge of any kind would be common, considering the prevalent role firearms play in MOST games, and yet it is woefully rare that a dev have even the most basic understanding of how they work.

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1075000&st=40

 

I do believe that there was a .45-70 weapon in MGS4.

Killed most enemies with one hit, provided that it hit them center mass.

But yeah, I always did appreciate the fact that Fallout 1 & 2 showed an understanding of ballistics beyond most anything else I've ever played.

I do believe that the only weapon-related thing that ever made me angrier than Fallout 3's bizarre weapon design was Rob Liefeld and his crazy firearms with redundant barrels and chunky ass parts with no logical purpose.

 

I just want the 10mm handgun back.

but this time it should blow a hole the size of a fist in things. 10mm bullet from back in the early 80's is enormous. makes a 45 acp seem a lil weak.

 

F03 was pretty offensive. I believe they called it the "Thor" in MGS4.

 

That's the 12 year old kiddie small penis/pampered child/inflated ego:

MAWR HORZ PWR!!!!

RAWR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

yeah I agree that a bolt action rifle has the better technology particularly when you want accuracy. Even today the bolt action is seen as the most accurate mechanism for long range weapons in the hand of the infantry well and its a relatively cheap technology.

But I still think it would not be completely implausible to have a rifle with a cyclinder attached if that is everything you have available and want to make a weapon you would use that. A conversion of some sort.

 

you guys worry an awful lot about the realism of guns in a game that has laser and plasma weapons. and where people can take several hits in the head with a shotgun and still be alive.

 

maybe its the other way and you dont worry enough ?

HERETIC! BURN HIM, BUURN HIM I SAY !!!

 

Wow... Guns...

Hmmmm,

Im still a little a taken aback though, what is a modern day military assault rifle doing in the Fallout Universe? Its a small niggle of mine but come on, the M1A1 is in practically EVERY modern warfare game out there, it just seems like a lack of imagination on the developers part, although it is just a minor one.

Sawyer does seem to know a fair amount about firearms, alot more then me, hell all I know is that their very dangerous weapons and when you pull the trigger they tend to go 'bang'...

Thats about it really.

 

You mean a M16A1 =P

M1A1 = Tank

 

Haha

Must be, I knew it was M1 something or other...

 

At least Rob is consistent: he shows as little understanding of human anatomy as he does the anatomy of a firearm!

 

That Johnson M1941 would be a helluva fit for New Vegas.

Gun design is an extremely important part of what made Fallout cool - it made you feel that you ARE in an alternate timeline. Copy&paste real weapons design is original and also detracts from that that special feel of the game.

 

Yeah, I like oddball guns.

.233 pistol with a double trigger.... 10mm pistol, YKM whatever pulse pistol...

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