Job-related misery

alec

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Hi guys,

Remember me? Yeah. Well, stuff ain't going too well in my life for the moment. The reason for that is pretty simple: my employer is giving me and my French colleague a really hard time leaving the job.

We were offered a contract of 1 year when we started. We were assigned as journalists and so we were glad to sign the document. During that year, however, we have not been given the chance to actually be journalists. If we wrote one text a month, it's going to be a lot. Instead of that we were asked to do almost administrative work, like changing phone numbers on the intranet or scanning a couple of documents, begging projectmanagers to contact us when they needed something written and so on. That took up about 80% of our task. I'm okay with doing things that you don't like during your job, but when you are working as a journalist, I expect that 80% of your job is filled with actually writing texts and 20% other stuff, not the other way around. My colleague thinks just the same thing.

Anyway, it's December now and only 30 more days seperate us from the end of this contract, and we were like "Alright, just 30 more days and we can leave this shithole and look for something that suits us much better."

Think again. My boss found out that this was our intention and now he's saying that we can't just do that. He's going to offer us a new contract (for doing exactly the same thing as now) for another year or even for indefinite time, and if we do not sign it, he says we are not going to be able to qualify for an unemployment benefit (dole) during the weeks or months that we are between jobs.
In fact, the big boss here wants us to sign a letter that states that we do not want to sign a new contract. That that is our decision.

Now, my colleague and me aren't as stupid as they think. It's pretty obvious that such a letter would mean the same thing as handing in your resignation, but the big boss goes: "No, no, no, you'll still get your C4 with stated as reason: end of contract, the only reason I want you to sign such a document is that you can't go to a lawyer or whatever, say that we didn't tell you in time that it was the end of your contract and ask us for some sort of compensation."

Now, I don't know how these big chiefs think, but the above scenario of going to a lawyer was like the last thing that came to our minds. We were well aware that we were able to work there for a year and that after that, we would be without a job. Was it possible that there would follow a new contract for another year? Sure, but they never guaranteed that, so the two of us always thought: when December is over, we're out of here.

I'm not working in the private sector, mind you, where such tactics are commonly used so the employer would not have to pay a dime for someone's dole. No, I'm working for the government and it completely stuns me to find out that these practices are used here as well.

Anyway, neither one of us is a member of a union, but we'll be doing that within the next couple of days, because we obviously need the back-up. So far, we've contacted a couple of people who are well-informed in these matters (people from unions, jurists) and all of these people are saying the same thing: do not sign anything. We weren't planning to anyway, though, but this shit is seriously fucking up good ol' wishy-washy alec's internal wiring, I tell you. I'm one ball of stress for the moment, because now that the big chiefs know, the atmosphere here is totally ruined and December might just become the most fucked up month for me this year.

Now you all know why I went berserk in the religion thread: I'm just not thinking at full capacity anymore (meaning: God still does not exist, but for the moment, I am far to weak to get into the whole thing :P ), my mind is constantly preoccupied with this delicate matter at work, more so since my colleague has taken a couple of days off and the big bosses seem to think that this is the time to get me to join their side. The pressure is building up, trust me. I'm eating bad, I'm sleeping horribly and I'm constantly sweating (hands especially) which is something I always seem to have when I'm overstressed.
That also means that I do not have the strength to think about funny Fallout-inspired cartoons for the moment, nor do I have the right hands to draw them (sweat ruins everything - try moving a brush fluently across a page when your hands are moist, it doesn't work, and it's depressing me).

So, anyway, now you know. If this things ends well, you'll be seeing new work soon, but if it doesn't, it could take some time before I'm adjusted again. My stomach feels like a gigantic ulcer. Work sucks, brethren, not always, but when it does, it's like a leech biting its teeth into the very core of your existence, harassing you 7/7, 24/24. It's horrible. I hope this affair ends well for both my colleague and me.

See you guys, and thanks for listening (well, reading)...

-- alec, not feeling so good actually

P.S. I will still visit the site, though, probably might even post now and then, but do not expect me to be overly active on these boards until this matter is resolved.
 
Your boss is blackmailing you. Don't sign anything.

If he decides to be a bitch and try to con you out of your dole, sue him.
Also, you may want to start looking for a new job in the mean time, so it hopefully won't matter if he tries to con you out of your dole.

Anyway, good luck with this.
 
Who the h377 is this alec person. :)

Darn, now I fell bad for you man, I hope that things will looking better for you in the future.

I can't give you an advise on either to sign the contract or not, but what you could do, is to go and find another job offer from some one else, and then try to squeeze your bosses balls with it.
 
Sander said:
Also, you may want to start looking for a new job in the mean time, so it hopefully won't matter if he tries to con you out of your dole.
The both of us are going to do so, of course, it's the best thing to do, but actually finding something interesting, well, in Belgium that can take some time, so the chances of one or the both of us finding something new before the end of December are pretty slim.
Also: we want to leave this place because our job has not been motivating or interesting for a year now, there's no point in accepting a new job that is equally dull or even worse.

Anyway, thanks for the kind replies. They somehow make me feel a little stronger.
 
Your boss is probably oppressing you because you're atheist. It's no use trying to fight it, no court is going to side with someone who doesn't believe in the Lord Almighty.

Heheh, just kidding. I'm sorry to hear about your problems, but I'm confident everything will work out fine in the end. I mean, it's not like you live in some Third World dung-hole like Croatia where employers can get away with this kind of shit.

Keep your chin up.
 
well, the advice stands: don't sign shit.

you had a timed contract, which means you'll get your C4 regardless. i'd say you should go with whatever the union has to say about it.

i don't quite see why your boss is being as ass about it btw.

i can ask my dad about it if you like, he used to be a union representative (as was his father before him). although a long time ago now, but i'm sure he still has plenty of contacts.
 
SuAside said:
well, the advice stands: don't sign shit.
The both of us have agreed and promised each other to stick together and indeed not sign any shit.

SuAside said:
you had a timed contract, which means you'll get your C4 regardless. i'd say you should go with whatever the union has to say about it.
Well, I've had a brief rendez-vous this afternoon with one of the union representatives at work and he's contacted a jurist who said that we have every right to not sign anything and that our employer is obligated to give us a C4 with the right data (namely: termination of contract). That was comforting to find out, although I still feel like shit, if I may be honest. These things hit good ol' wishy-washy alec pretty hard. As I said: weak internal wiring. Probably something genetic.

SuAside said:
i don't quite see why your boss is being as ass about it btw.
We do. I'll try to explain: when I started working there, I was one of a group of 8 new people who were assigned to work for a new unit at the Department of Justice, a unit called 'Organisation Development' which is basically the parade horse of our boss. Of these 8 people, 5 have already left for the same reasons: they were given the promise of a certain job (most of them were internal consultants), but in reality no one ever got a chance to do the job they sollicited for. Instead of giving our group meaningfull work, we all had to do completely different tasks (think about internal consultants putting 20000 (!) letters in envelopes, for instance, 'cause it happened whilst we have our own internal postal unit, for crying out loud) or, even more often, we were expected to just fill our days with doing nothing at all (I know, this sounds like a blast and it is the first few months, but after some time such a joke just ain't funny anymore).
Result: people left (duh, what did they expect?), most often because they were offered something better elsewhere. That means that this new unit is completely legless at the moment, giving the remaining three members (of which I am one) nothing to do at all, except for petty stuff which rarely has anything to do with 'Organisation Development'.
Anyway, the loss of all these employees is not good for my boss's image, 'cause he has got a boss as well, who has already started to ask him questions about his inability to lead this new unit. Now that two of the remaining three have sorta the same intentions (we simply want to leave after fulfilling this contract which ends at the end of the month), he knows that his own position is looking worse with each passing moment.
That's probably the reason why he's being such an arsehole, I mean that's what everyone at work who's supporting us is saying as well, and it makes perfect sense to me. Also: our boss's wages depend on how many people he has got under him. I'm sure that his wages must have dropped quite a lot lately by losing all those employees, perhaps the idea of earning even less next year is pissing him off? Those are our two cents anyway. In away, I can understand that, but in another way I just fucking don't give a shit that this fuck-up is going to be the joke of our Department soon.

SuAside said:
i can ask my dad about it if you like, he used to be a union representative (as was his father before him). although a long time ago now, but i'm sure he still has plenty of contacts.
Thanks, that's extremely kind of you, but I've taken and I'm taking the necessary steps to get through this the best I can: Tuesday I'm going to the union for membership and further advice, we've got the befriended union representative at work (who rocks the kasbah, by the way, this guy is legal dynamite) and the both of us have started looking for something else, so normally this should work out okay.
Tell that to my body, though. The brain is such a powerfull instrument, sometimes it just does certain things to you that you can't control, and the way I'm feeling right now is the best proof f that. I'm glad it's weekend. I'll need those two days of rest, 'cause Monday promises to be hell.
 
alec said:
Also: our boss's wages depend on how many people he has got under him.
moronic, as usual...

still, a good reason for him to create a bogus unit with a nice job on paper but nothing to do irl.

and to think the justice department has so much backwork... sjeez. they could've put the money to good use if they'd have reinforced the normal units instead of creating a bogus one.

alec said:
we've got the befriended union representative at work (who rocks the kasbah, by the way, this guy is legal dynamite)
i'd hope he is, since he works for the union at the justice department ;)

anyhow, hang inthere, kid.
 
The saga continues and becomes more and more Kafkaesque: I just got phoned up by my colleague. She went to the office around six o'clock because she had left her USB stick there which contained texts she's going to need during the weekend (newspaper contributions, a freelance thing she does aside of her normal job now and then) and guess what? Her pc was lit and her Outlook had been opened, as well as the French-Dutch dictionary (she's French, our boss is Dutch).
Her pc had not been lit all day. Now she worries about two or three small informal mails to one of her friends containing some lines about this whole messy business. She doesn't think they can use that against her, though, there so brief and vague, but it still goes to show what kind of low and mean things these guys dare to do to find something they can use against you. Then again, such practices also show that they probably don't have a leg to stand on and are just searching, searching, searching for compromising material.
No worries, though: good ol' wishy-washy alec has already removed all his terrorist schemes, foot fetish pics, cookies, temporary files and history from his pc at work. I'm clean. If they check my pc they'll find nothing but work-related stuff.
Always gotta keep one step ahead of them. Always.

Let's try and enjoy my weekend now. :roll:
 
Oooh, invasion of privacy. Another offense.

These people should be fired at the very least.
 
alec said:
No worries, though: good ol' wishy-washy alec has already removed all his terrorist schemes, foot fetish pics, cookies, temporary files and history from his pc at work. I'm clean. If they check my pc they'll find nothing but work-related stuff.
Always gotta keep one step ahead of them. Always.
not to worry you, but that's not exactly true. but still, the chances of your boss being an elite techgeek are extremely limited.

also Sander, about the legality of this: it depends on what it reads in your contract & if you've been warned your emails/computeractivity will be checked or not. so it's not illegal per sé.
 
So, does this mean you'll quit seein' the cutie you had in work?
 
Wooz said:
So, does this mean you'll quit seein' the cutie you had in work?
Yeah, but one needn't worry: there are cuties everywhere.

:roll:

Ever been so exhausted that you can't sleep?
 
Yes, occasionally.

Whenever that happens, I force myself into sleep by getting wasted.
 
Ratty said:
Heheh, just kidding. I'm sorry to hear about your problems, but I'm confident everything will work out fine in the end. I mean, it's not like you live in some Third World dung-hole like Croatia where employers can get away with this kind of shit.

Yeah.

Or Poland.

Or Orange County.
 
Heh, workplace intriges.

Don't let them walk over you, Alec. Since you've only got one month left anyways, you can pretty much stand up for yourself as much as you want, I guess.

Unless you'd want references from this job - but since it appears to be in no way related to the job you want to do, that doesn't really seem to matter...
 
Wooz said:
I force myself into sleep by getting wasted.
I thought I was the only one! =')

Sorry about the stuff, alec. Like the others said, just hang in there and things'll work out. Before you know it, you'll be pounding someone up the butt again, and you'll once more be able to laugh at it all.
 
Wow such a big to-do...I thought Alec was going to complain his employer reinstated a rule that all employees have to wear shoes at all times and that it was really bothering Alec to not see anymore feet.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
 
The_Vault_Dweller said:
I thought Alec was going to complain his employer reinstated a rule that all employees have to wear shoes at all times and that it was really bothering Alec to not see anymore feet.
It was actually the other way around: there was a no-shoe-policy and it was killing me.
All those nylons, fishnets and painted toenails were constantly forcing all of my bloodcells to one and the same spot in my body, resulting in high bloodpressure, seizures and epileptic fits.

:roll:

No, wait, my mistake... that was my previous job.
 
Now, I don't know how these big chiefs think, but the above scenario of going to a lawyer was like the last thing that came to our minds.

It should have been the first.

Well, I've had a brief rendez-vous this afternoon with one of the union representatives at work and he's contacted a jurist


See?
 
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