Let the Winter Olympic Games Begin!

iridium_ionizer said:
One of the things I have noticed in my limited viewing of the games is that most of the U.S. woman's bobsledders are former collegiate athletes in other sports (e.g. softball, soccer, etc.). So they are basically pretty good athletes that couldn't excel to the top of whatever they were doing before so they took a shot at bobsledding. Which leads me to wonder, does anyone grow up practicing bobsledding since the sled and time on a track have to be quite the premium commodity?

Should there even be Olympic events that some poor kid can't practice (to some extent) on his own with some minimal investment in equipment (e.g. skates, skis, etc.)? Is bobsledding only an event because it's fast and a traditional event and they have trouble coming up with winter events? Where should the line be drawn in determining when equipment is too expensive? I am pretty sure you could discard the downhill part of bobsledding and make it rocket bobsledding and it would be even more exciting.
Equipment expenses are irrelevant in determining whether or not a sport is worthy of being an olympic sport, worldwide popularity is relevant.

Also, no, Starseeker, figure skating is not interesting in any way.

Also, the 'anyone can win' bit isn't exactly unique to the olympics, it's a sport thing.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Got to say that Canada/USA game last night was some awesome hockey, some nice hitting.

Olympic hockey is the best hockey you can see these days, IMO. The players never look more motivated to win than when they're playing for their home countries.

I salute the Swiss team, too. They played great today and through their whole run, even though they were outmanned in almost every match. :clap:
 
Finland's in the semifinals :aiee: but otherwise these olympics have been a HUGE disappointment for us (original medal goal 12, 1 earned so far :facepalm:
 
Uh-oh, Puokki... :mrgreen:

Sorry for that smackdown, but your lads forgot there was a game today. I'm disappointed, cause I thought Suomi would put up a good fight. I still like Teemu and the Koivus though.
 
US went medieval on Finland's ass today. I'm hoping for Canada to win in 30 mins so that they meet with US in the final. Two of the most deserving hockey teams this tournament I think.
 
maximaz said:
US went medieval on Finland's ass today. I'm hoping for Canada to win in 30 mins so that they meet with US in the final. Two of the most deserving hockey teams this tournament I think.

And as awesome as the first US v. Canada game was, you know the final will be 1000 times better.
 
Canada is going to smoke us. We got severly lucky in that 1st game, I wouldn't count on it again.

UniversalWolf said:
Olympic hockey is the best hockey you can see these days, IMO. The players never look more motivated to win than when they're playing for their home countries.
I do miss the lack of fighting and violence. But, there's not a lot of that clutch & grabbing or hooking & holding that has really turned me off to the NHL lately.
I hear these guys do love playing in the Olympics, unfortunately, I heard the NHL might not allow for another 2 week stoppage to allow them to all fly to Russia next time. Bad for business despite what the player want. All hail Commish. Bettman and his quest for the allmighty dollar.

Canada Vs. USA.
Old Time Hockey.
 
2-0 right now. Canada is playing fast and furious but looks slightly less fine tuned than US did today, if you ask me. The passing isn't as precise and there are lots of wide and over shots. Slovakia is playing a much better defense than Finland did though.

I don't see Gretzky or Lemieux in the audience, what's that all about?

EDIT: Wow, the ending had me biting my nails. Respect to Slovakia for that 3rd period. The last couple of minutes were insane.
 
What is wrong with the Olympics?

The Olympics are not about the human spirit and have little to do with athletic excellence. They are a multi-billion dollar industry backed by real estate, construction, hotel, tourism and media corporations, and powerful elites working hand in hand with government officials and the International Olympic Committee (IOC). While public pressure is unlikely to stop the 2010 Games from occupying Vancouver, critical resistance is needed to expose deceptions about the Games’ impact and purposes, voice our dissent to the world, and strengthen social movement solidarity.

Occupation of Stolen Native Land: The vast majority of B.C. is unceded Native land, unlawfully occupied by B.C. and Canada. By Canadian law, Native title exists unless yielded by treaty and little of B.C. is covered, even by flawed treaties. Neglect of First Nations’ social, environmental, and political rights by a state that benefits from Aboriginal resources is a serious political crisis ignored by Canada and the Games.

“Security” and Eroding Civil Liberties: Increasing political repression and security build-ups accompany modern Games. Estimates for Vancouver of at least 16,500 Canadian military, border guards, private security, VPD, RCMP, and CSIS agents (plus foreign security) are unrealistically low: the Sydney Games had 35,000 police and security (4 cops per athlete) with 4,000 troops and commando units and the Athens Games had 70,000 police, security, and military forces. There will be at least 40 km of crowd-control fencing, video surveillance, and airport-style security zones around the city, including on public property. The monitoring and intimidation of political opposition has already begun. Vancouver City Council has followed the IOC requests to create an environment free of protest by enhancing bylaws to restrict posters, signs, leaflets, marches, noise-makers, and any possible “disturbance” to Olympic entertainment. Many elements can become permanent (such as public video monitoring, new security bodies and policing rules, and the criminalization of protest) and security costs are up to $1 billion.

Environmental Destruction and Waste: The 2010 Games will be one of the most ecologically damaging in history, featuring clear cuts, mountain blasting, road construction (and expansion of traffic), gravel mining (damage to fish stocks), massive amounts of steel, plastics, cement, wood, etc., threats to animal populations, unnecessary luxury buildings, and expanded infrastructure (with accelerated approvals) for mining, logging, oil and gas exploration, ski resorts, and tourism. Approximately 100,000 trees have been cut down for Olympic development.

Corporatization: The Games are entirely commercialized, with pro athletes, exclusive corporate sponsors, and crony deals for development, construction, and media companies. Image control is crucial and all outdoor advertising in Vancouver has been sold to the Games and their sponsors for weeks around the Games. The anthem lyrics “with glowing hearts” and words like “friend” have become trademarks related to the Olympics. Games regularly benefit and are sponsored by companies with poor human rights and environmental records, like Nike, Shell, McDonald’s, Coca-Cola, Petro-Canada, Dow, Teck Cominco, TransCanada, and arms makers GE and GM.

Damage to Communities: Racial profiling and lock-downs of ethnic communities are common for the Games (black neighbourhoods in L.A. and Atlanta, Muslims in Athens, etc.). More tourists increase abuses in the sex trade. Host cities routinely criminalise the poor or homeless and socially cleanse their cities (Vancouver relocated the homeless out of sight for Expo 86 and Atlanta did the same for its Games). The Vancouver Police crackdown on visible poverty has led to hundreds of tickets for panhandling, jaywalking, second-hand sales on the streets, and sleeping in parks. The sacrifice of housing, social services, and environmental and labour laws also hurt the poor, homeless, women, minorities, Natives, and workers. Since the 1980s, Games and their construction have displaced over 2 million people.

Honouring Exploitation: Despite Olympic claims, Games occur in places that violate “international standards” (Nazi Germany in 1936, more than 300 students massacred in Mexico prior to the 1968 Games, political oppression in China during the 2008 Games, etc.). Games are used to rally for nationalist causes, impose social control, and attract corporate investment, more than to celebrate “pure sport.” Past presidents of the corrupt IOC (including colonialists, Nazi sympathisers, and officials of fascist states) have used the Games to suppress dissent and serve their political and economic interests. Like the WTO, FTAA, G8, and APEC, the Games will use public funds to honour leaders from repressive regimes.

Lack of Affordable Housing: During a housing crisis, single-room-occupancies (cheap hotels) and affordable rentals are torn-down or converted to high-priced housing while the City lends money to build Olympic condos. Promises of affordable and social housing and shelter spaces are rarely met by host cities and Vancouver has already admitted that commitments will not be met. In fact, since the bid in 2003, we have lost over 850 low-income housing units and homelessness has tripled. Salt Lake City Games planned for 2500 units of affordable housing and created only 150; prior to Sydney’s Games, tenant evictions increased 400%; and Calgary failed to build any of its pledged social housing.

Public Costs and Debt: The $6 billion cost of Vancouver’s Games keeps increasing with cost overruns and hidden transfers. Host cities take on huge debts: Montreal’s 1976 Games were only paid off in 2002; Calgary had a $910 million debt; Barcelona a $1.4 billion debt; Sydney a $2.3 billion debt; etc. Claims of long-term economic benefits have been proven false in previous Games. The Olympics are an expensive 17-day corporate circus (during an economic crisis) that will cost us all for years to come.


http://olympicresistance.net/content/what-wrong-olympics-0
 
Hey cool a copy paste without a source.

Care to actually add your own commentary instead of just blandly copy-pasting a tendentious article that ignores any benefits and paints everything with the blackest possible brush.
 
lol, why didn't I see any of these guys in Beijing 2008? Oh, wait. probably because China doesn't care much for politically correctness?

You were given plenty of press coverage for your protests and were also given a lot of free rein to do so. Some of you even tried to assault a torch bearer, but nothing really happened to you. And after breaking news stands and store windows and assaulting police officers, some of you tried to claim that you were treated roughly and weren't given the freedom to protest.

If you are so angry about things, why not make some real changes? Why is Harper and Campbell still in power? Seriously, if you were so mad, why not help get an actual Green party voted into Parliament? If you want some real change, go do some real work, like volunteering, or donating your worldly possessions to help fight the hunger, or go to Haiti. Hell, go to China and protest about Tibet and Human rights if you have some real balls. Don't get all morally superior on us when you don't even have enough support in a nice country like Canada (who tries to cater to everybody..., hell, Canadians complained about everything even after that, the torch is fenced off, not enough French in opening games, etc, etc) to get someone from the Green party (whose values seem to align with you guys) voted into Parliament.

Get over yourself.
 
Cimmerian Nights said:
Canada is going to smoke us. We got severly lucky in that 1st game, I wouldn't count on it again.

I dunno! Maybe I'm still disappointed after Canada lost to the States in the juniors and the Olympics recently, but I think USA will take the gold medal.

Though, the fellas have been showing some incredible skill ever since losing to the States 5-3 (blowing out Russia? Wow). Maybe it was a wakeup call... in any case, here's to a good game regardless of the outcome!


Off-topic, but for anyone interested in those involved, it looks like Andrew Koenig, Walter Koenig's (Chekov) son, went to Stanley Park and hung himself from a tree in the past week. Only found him two days ago. Came as a sad shock to me because I was following the story since it began about two weeks ago... and I've recently visited Stanley Park.
 
Win or Lose, tomorrow will be a riot on the streets in downtown Vancouver..., I really hope nothing stupid happens or anyone tried to take advantage of it.

25 medals, and 13 gold, so maybe some people will shut up about it now.

I also gotta hand it to a Slovenia cross-country Olympic Athlete. She fell into a ditch near the beginning, broke 3 ribs, punctured her lung, got BACK to the starting line, kept racing and won a Bronze anyway! :shock:

They gave her a Terry Fox award, which is nicely deserved.
 
Finland 5-3 over Slovakia. I did NOT expect that.

I don't know who to root for today but I also get the feeling US will take gold. There is just too much pressure on Canada to win and US looked deadly against Finland. Their Miller was literally impenetrable while Canada's goalie started showing some gaping cracks when Slovaks upped the pressure. I expect that to make a big difference.

Damn, I can't wait for that freaking game.
 
Oh man the USA - Finland- match was painful to watch... 15 minutes, 6-0... ohhhhh...

Well, at least we got the bronze, but I'll give big hand for Slovakia for beating Sweden, since rule #1 in Finnish sports is Winning is not important, winning Sweden is. Thank you!
 
lol it was the other way around. I'm happy for Canada, it was well deserved. They started strong but then just relaxed. 3rd period was US owned. I thought that last minute comeback meant US had it. The overtime was completely owned by Canada though, it was only a matter of time.

Like I predicted, Luongo vs Miller made quite a difference as well. Miller was awesome, as expected. Whenever Canada fired a shot, it was most likely to be stopped. With Luongo it was the opposite. One shot literally went straight through him.

Anyway, a deserved win for Canada but Miller is still the man. So is Parise and definitely Kane. I'll be watching him like a hawk this season (pun).
 
It was 2:1 til 28 secs, and US scored 1 to tie it.

It was 2:2 going over time, until Crosby scored, Goal!!!!

Canada Takes it!!!!

All out party in Canada tonight!!! Watch the entire country get drunk!! :D :lol: 8-) :crazy: :mrgreen:
 
Starseeker said:
All out party in Canada tonight!!! Watch the entire country get drunk!! :D :lol: 8-) :crazy: :mrgreen:

Looks like I won't be going to class tomorrow morning :P

Really though, the game was a sloppy miserable mess! I don't know how USA didn't demolish. When that goal came in at 20 odd seconds left, my living room went UP. We were all sure the game belong to USA, but then... the living room went up again with an unexpected goal.

And a collective groan that Crosby is our hockey Olympic champion because of that unexpected goal. Haha, oh well, it won us the game.

Good stuff! 14 gold!
 
Disagree. It wasn't the best game I've seen in terms of sheer display of skills but it was still pretty intense, for the most part.

The first period was furious. The second one had some fantastic power plays by Canada (both attacking and defending). It slowed way down toward the end of the second period and beginning of the third, with some very messy play, but US picked things up quite a bit toward the end.

And Canada owned overtime. They were bound to score that goal because they came out playing like their lives depended on it. I was fully expecting a goal by Canada and Crosby was a good candidate to score one.

If anything, US looked pretty horrible compared to their past few games. If they tested Luongo like Canadians tested Miller, they would have won.
 
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