Level Romania previews Fallout 3

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The Romanian Level previewed Fallout 3. It contains no new information, but Feeltherads translated a few key paragraphs for us:<blockquote>Finally, let's get back to what really interests you. Will Fallout 3 be the isometric wonder you all wish for? If you belong to those that consider the iso-metric perspective and the turn-based combat system to be the defining elements of the Fallout series, I'd suggest you stop reading now. Fallout 3 won't be isometric and the combat won't be turn-based. In Fallout 3, Bethesda opted for a first-person perspective, but for those who can't live without the holy isometric one, Bethesda also promises to add a 3rd person camera. With a bit of patience and skill and a bit of help from the zoom function, we can only hope the problem of the isometric perspective we'll be at least half-solved.

Another "psychological block" you'll have to pass is the fact that Fallout 3 will also visit the consoles. Console owners will be ecstatic, but the conservatory types will, as usual, wrinkle their noses. Their theory states that a console is not able to support such a complex game like Fallout, and a console owner can't swallow such a game. Nothing more false. On consoles we have Final Fantasy, Jade Empire, KOTOR and the coming Mass Effect, so I wouldn't be too worried. There is still the issue of porting, though. Here the things seem better. They are working at the same time for the PC, PS3 and XBOX360 versions, so the problem of porting is gone. The PC version will be made especially for the PC, so probably the specific problems of porting (like the huge Oblivion fonts) will be gone.
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Todd Howards declared in an interview that "violence done well is fucking hilarious". Partially I agree with him. If ten years ago we were happy like little children when seeing minuscule pieces flying from a 2-3 centimeters sprite, imagine what you'll feel when blowing-up heads and playing pool with eyeballs, all in 3D. However, the general impression I had from Howard's commentary on Fallout 3's violence is that there's too much focus on slaughter in a game that's part of a series that can be completed without firing a single bullet. The man had too much enthusiasm when talking about blood and limbs flying, and the Fatman, the hand-held catapult spewing mini-nukes, is a proof that things might go a biiiiiit too far. Like any normal person, I sometimes like to blow-up someone's head with a sniper rifle or break another one's hand with a wrench, but still I don't want Fallout to become Manhunt. To each its own...
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Children? They're there. Will we be able to punish them with a minigun for not doing their homework? I'm afraid not. The developers gracefully evaded the questions about child-killing asked by a more insistent journalist. They answered with a question "...do you really want to be able to kill children?". In an official setting (where each and everyone is an undercover psychiatrist), you can only scream from the top of your lungs "Yes, I do!", so the discussion became a little uncomfortable and moved to safer waters. Like with what little cannons you can't kill the poor children with.
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So, let's put everything together. Bethesda got their claws on Fallout 3, Interplay held the rights to a possible Fallout MMO and everybody was happy. Except the hardcore fans, who, a year and a half before even the first artwork to be available, quickly drew the conclusion that Fallout 3 will be "Oblivion with guns". I'll refrain from further comments, but if we are to apply the same reasoning, it would mean Half-Life is just "Doom with a storyline" or that Baldur's Gate is a simple Diablo with more words... I say we wait will the autumn of 2008 (I'm a bit skeptical about this one, but if they say so...) and only then start throwing rocks or flowers. I have a feeling Bethesda will have a nice surprise for us. Until then...let's dream."</blockquote>"Final Fantasy, Jade Empire, KOTOR and the coming Mass Effect" had the depth of PC RPGs like PS:T or Fallout? Must've missed that.
 
yay romania :) last time i bought that thing was ... uhm ... i guess 5-6 years ago .. they were decent enough back then... [oldspeak] seems like everything was better back in the day [/oldspeak]
 
still no Russian previews..
they're afraid of that russians won't like the 'reinvention' :)
 
13pm said:
still no Russian previews..
they're afraid of that russians won't like the 'reinvention' :)

According to Pete Hines, several Russians did see the game at E3.

We should expect Russian previews after the GDC in Leipzig, late in August. We'll see if they manage to impress them.
 
Brother None said:
According to Pete Hines, several Russians did see the game at E3.

We should expect Russian previews after the GDC in Leipzig, late in August. We'll see if they manage to impress them.

thanks for the info, I'll keep an eye on gaming press then
 
Jesus Christ, preview without blowj... Uh, I mean, unbiased preview! That's rare!
[oldspeak] seems like everything was better back in the day [/oldspeak]

[oldie-mode]Oh yeah, in the past everything was better :<[/oldie-mode]
 
Brother None said:
"Final Fantasy, Jade Empire, KOTOR and the coming Mass Effect" had the depth of PC RPGs like PS:T or Fallout? Must've missed that.
Even as someone who absolutely loves Final Fantasy and KotOR, I can agree with that statement. Neither Final Fantasy nor any of the others mentioned even try to touch the same ground as a game like Fallout (or even if they do try, they don't come close). A rather ridiculous line of reasoning for them to pursue. The fact that people think that just because they're in the same "RPG" classification makes them equal just underlines why a lot of people have trouble understanding why people who love Fallout have many problems with Bethesda's take on it so far. Final Fantasy is in nowhere near the same realm as Oblivion, which is nowhere near the same realm as Fallout.
 
Brother None said:
According to Pete Hines, several Russians did see the game at E3.

We should expect Russian previews after the GDC in Leipzig, late in August. We'll see if they manage to impress them.

I just realised.. did he say that they were from gaming press? maybe these Russians were just the representatives of Akella and 1C, who were at the E3?
 
Ironic that they state Final Fantasy as an example of a console RPG. FF is in fact not an RPG, it's an adventure game with RPG elements. There is no role to play, because the storyline is fully predetermined.
 
Dudes, give the guy some credit. He had one critical notion about the game, thats more than most of these blowjob previews manage.
;)
[Todd Howards declared in an interview that "violence done well is fucking hilarious". Partially I agree with him. If ten years ago we were happy like little children when seeing minuscule pieces flying from a 2-3 centimeters sprite, imagine what you'll feel when blowing-up heads and playing pool with eyeballs, all in 3D. However, the general impression I had from Howard's commentary on Fallout 3's violence is that there's too much focus on slaughter in a game that's part of a series that can be completed without firing a single bullet. The man had too much enthusiasm when talking about blood and limbs flying, and the Fatman, the hand-held catapult spewing mini-nukes, is a proof that things might go a biiiiiit too far. Like any normal person, I sometimes like to blow-up someone's head with a sniper rifle or break another one's hand with a wrench, but still I don't want Fallout to become Manhunt. To each its own...]

I absolutly agree, although the guy is a bit to cautios and hesitant to make a strong point.
This childish Toddyspeak "lulz, VIOLANCE IS TEH BEST EVAH fucking headz gonna X-PLODE" is a terrifieng indicator of how Beth didn't get Fallout at all. Sad, just sad.
 
13pm said:
I just realised.. did he say that they were from gaming press? maybe these Russians were just the representatives of Akella and 1C, who were at the E3?

He said "sites and mags."

So a bit puzzled why we haven't seen anything, myself. Definitely after Leipzig, though
 
It's sad that this semi-skeptical tone is among the best found amongst a sea of "uber-violence means it's Fallout!!" and "I liek teh nukular catapult!"
 
Brother None said:
In Fallout 3, Bethesda opted for a first-person perspective, but for those who can't live without the holy isometric one, Bethesda also promises to add a 3rd person camera. With a bit of patience and skill and a bit of help from the zoom function, we can only hope the problem of the isometric perspective we'll be at least half-solved.

Sweet, just like Oblivion's third person view. Also, you can't play the game to it's full extent unless you play in first person, oh myyy gawd.
 
metalboss44 said:
Honestly why do they even try to get our hopes up for an isometric camera.

They don't use the term isometric, it's third person, which constitutes anything not seen out of th PC's eyes.
 
radnan said:
yay romania :) last time i bought that thing was ... uhm ... i guess 5-6 years ago .. they were decent enough back then... [oldspeak] seems like everything was better back in the day [/oldspeak]


GAME OVER forever!
 
There's a huge difference between third person and isometric. In third person the camera always moves with the character, in iso, the player moves the camera. So, no, even if you can pull the camera all the way back into the same position as it was in FO1 & 2, it's still not iso.
 
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