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k9wazere

It Wandered In From the Wastes
I haven't followed PC games for ages now. I keep returning to a few old games from the 90's whenever I get the urge to play something.

So I chose to post here to see what your collective tastes are, whilst helping me to find some gems I might have missed.

Here are some PC games I *love*:

Battle Isle 2
XCom 1
Deus Ex/ SS2
San Adreas
RtCW
FF8 (yes eight ;))
MGS
Front Mission

You can see I have a stretegy bias, but I'm open to all sorts of games. Anything, really.

I do enjoy a good story in my games. Tried Planescape twice but never got very far with it for some reason. DE/SS/FM have comelling stories *and* great gameplay.

So let the suggestions commence :)

Cheers!
 
The next two X-Com games were also good if you liked the first one. Terror From the Deep was pretty much the same setup but with some very hard scenarios. X-Com Apocalypse made a lot of changes but still some fun challenges.

I never got going with Planescape either but the first two Baldur's Gate games had me hooked.
 
Radwaster said:
The next two X-Com games were also good if you liked the first one.
TFTD had some brilliant bits (I loved the variety of terror missions; beaches, ports, ships) but ruined it all by being excessively tedious.

For example, two-step missions for just about everything. Yuck.

I don't mind the extra challenge, but not the way they did it. Hordes of lobstermen and missions that take 2-3 hours to complete didn't do it for me. I did complete the game, but never on iron man ;)

Apoc, BG1,2,2.5 I've played before ;) Enjoyed all of them to some extent.

Keep the suggestions coming, and cheers ;)
 
Bal-Sagoth said:
How was FFVIII and MGS on the PC?
FFVII and FFVIII were both released for the PC, the porting was done by Eidos (who, ironically, is now owned by SquareEnix). MGS was released for PC in 2000, something I didn't realize. The only Front Mission I know of being on PC is FM Online, which was canceled.

I'd suggest Planescape: Torment, if you haven't already played it, and FFVII. Jagged Alliance II gets suggested a lot, the first game is available online for free (just google it). Homeworld (the one by Relic/Sierra, not Gateway II, though I enjoyed it as well) was the first true 3D RTS and is pretty awesome. Half-Life 2 is always a good choice (I'd suggest buying it in Orange Box). I'd say that Diablo II is the best ARPG to date so if you're into that type of game, it's worth checking out.
 
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k9wazere said:
I do enjoy a good story in my games. Tried Planescape twice but never got very far with it for some reason. DE/SS/FM have comelling stories *and* great gameplay.

Durr.
Also I raise argument with your assertion that Homeworld was the first true 3D RTS, if you mean in degrees of movement, then yes I agree, but as far as a true 3D environment that affects actual strategical decisions, Myth was the first to hit that mark, a physics system for arrows and their trajectories, elevation and terrain affecting everything from unit accuracy to unit speed that actually responded to the level geometry rather than just a terrain tile setting, and most importantly, realistic limb throwing courtesy of the Ghols.

Anyways, that just reminded me of Myth and Myth II: The Fallen Lords, both of which I highly recommend.
 
Bal-Sagoth said:
How was FFVIII and MGS on the PC?

Yeah actually you got me there.

MGS2/3 are PS2 only (3 is fantastic, imho), and Front Mission 3 was PS2 also.

Sadly I no longer have a PS2, since my brother "borrowed" it indefinitely ;)

So yes, I'm after PC recommendations, but that list wasn't PC exclusive. Just to give a taste of the kind of games I enjoy.

As Garlic said, MGS and FF8 were ported to PC, and in fact I played both only on the PC.

PS:T, Diablo series, FF7 I've played. D2 I find to be less enjoyable than D1, but I don't think many will agree with that.

Never tried JA2, or Homeworld, so that's somewhere to start. I'm not really into real-time strategy tho. Red Alert was fun, but that's about where I get off the bus with RTS games ;)

What can I say? I'm just too slow for them ;) Prefer to take my time with a good turn-based game, if I'm in the mood for strategy.
 
You're not wrong.
MGS was ported to the PC and was one of the few console ports that was undeniably better than its original incarnation, far better graphics thanks to the higher resolution, and a usable first person mode.
Final Fantasy 8 was also ported, although I never did play that one (I hate jRPGs).

Also MGS2 was also ported to the PC as the Director's Cut version, that was an atrocious port however, and I don't suggest anyone plays it over the PS2 version.

EDIT: God damn people post fast.
 
Had the demo to MGS on the PC, very fun.
The controls are actually more fluid than the playstation controls and the better frame rate made it look so much nicer.

Can't be said for FFVII. The PC port was a bit naff and crashed a lot. To make matters worse my last disk was scratched and couldn't complete the game though thats not the games fault . :wink:

Hmm oldski games to recomend... got so many I can't think of the good ones.
 
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k9wazere said:
You can see I have a stretegy bias, but I'm open to all sorts of games. Anything, really.

Well, right off the bat.. If you like squad-based strategy games where exploration / discovery of a sector is all real-time, but combat jumps into a turn-based system..

I highly recommend Jagged Alliance, and Jagged Alliance 2 (With the Unfinished Business expansion optionally)

The first is really dated, but I've still been able to get it to run on even Vista with minimal effort, even with sound support, which is sort of amazing as old as the engine is. The second is far more modern (though by no means "new"), and should present no trouble getting to run.

These games are great fun. Essentially you manage your resources, hire mercenaries, and go kick butt to reclaim territory (and defend it) from the evil "bad guys". There's storyline elements, exploration and items to find / use, all sorts of weapons..

But the best feature (if you like this sort of thing) is how all the mercenaries have their own distinct personalities. Some love or hate other mercenaries you may or may not also have hired, and this can lead to all kinds of in-team banter which ranges from mildly amusing to absolutely hilarious.. though at times it can mean that a given merc might quit the team... or in a few cases, flat-out attempt to kill one of the others! Oh, the memories....

Anyways.. those would be right up top for that sort of game.. Other titles of various types I have a lot of fond memories playing would include:

  • 101: 101st Airborne in Normandy -- Decent squad-level WW II strategy game. Very old and dated, but did a good job of keeping that real feeling of tension you get as a few scattered para-troopers creeping through the hedgerows and engaging pockets of the enemy.
  • Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines -- (Another strategy game of sorts, but with more a focus on each member of the team having very specific skills and abilities. The deal here is every mission has a somewhat specific formula for success and you have to work with your team to figure it out.
  • Maniac Mansion 2: Day of the Tentacle -- Still one of the best graphic adventure games of all time. Lots of puzzle-solving and interaction with amusing characters, and probably one of the funniest games I've ever played.
  • Dungeon Keeper 1 & 2 -- Not bad for a light-hearted "You be the bad guy" sort of reverse dungeon crawl. And bonus points if you get any giggles out of slapping around psychotic torture maidens, because they seem to enjoy it anyway. ;)
  • Full Throttle -- Another graphic adventure (Lucas Arts). This one's also quite amusing, and has a decent story, not to mention a pretty good soundtrack. Play the outlaw biker caught up in a desperate struggle to stop the last American motorcycle company (Corley Motors) from being turned to crap by a slime-ball of a vice president. Wheeee, what a ride! ;)
  • Hitman (Codename 47, Silent Assassin, Contracts, Blood Money) -- All good, and you can get the last 3 in one package (Trilogy), and the first has substantially different mechanics than the other 3. Take on the role of the world's most perfect assassin (in a modern-day setting) and get paid to kill. Most missions, you have a good amount of choice as to whether to try to be sneaky & silent and go for a "perfect score", or just have a bloodbath and waste 'em all.
  • No One Lives Forever (The Operative: NOLF, and especially the sequel, NOLF 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way) -- Think female James Bond meets the tongue-in cheek humor and 60's stylings of Austin Powers, and you've basically got it. Sort of an FPS that's more about the story and humor than about uber kill counts. Oh, and it has ninjas. Ninjas are always a bonus. ;)
  • Evil Genius -- Sort of a cross between the Dungeon Keeper idea and the NOLF idea. Basically an RTS / simulation which again takes the sort of tongue in cheek humor element of the 60s genre, but this time you're the bad guy, and you get to thwart the secret agents who come to foil your plans using your powerful henchmen, diabolical traps, and your expendable minions. Great fun for the whole family.
  • Syndicate & Syndicate Wars -- Old, but how can you not love a game where you're the one in charge of a mega-corp in a dark, cyberpunk future which means you'll be needing to upgrade, arm, and send out your enforcement squad of butt-kicking, drugged-up, cybernetic puppets to accomplish your goals and spread your company's dominion across the globe? Really... you haven't lived until you've terrorized an entire town by first blowing up a whole parking lot of hover-cars with devastating mini-gun fire, and then just setting the drug levels on all your guys to essentially psychotic, meaning they'll just annihilate any and everyone who comes within range. XD Oh, what fun.

Meh, that list is hardly complete, but that's what comes to mind right off the top. If you manage to hunt down some of the older ones and have any problems getting them to run, shoot me a PM. I'd be more than happy to help.

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k9wazere said:
D2 I find to be less enjoyable than D1, but I don't think many will agree with that.
I do, just for the record. Not even really sure why, more than possibly I just played SO much D1 that D2 felt like minor additions to too much more of the same perhaps. I dunno, but I agree with you either way. ;)

k9wazere said:
I'm not really into real-time strategy tho. Red Alert was fun, but that's about where I get off the bus with RTS games ;)

What can I say? I'm just too slow for them ;) Prefer to take my time with a good turn-based game, if I'm in the mood for strategy
Just FYI, any of those games I suggested which contain RTS elements are of a bit lighter nature. None of them really require that you're some sort of super-speed RTS god to enjoy. Evil Genius can get pretty hectic now and then, but with a bit of practice you find plenty of ways around that, and it's not really a problem. Likewise I guess with Syndicate, where some missions can seem impossible at first, but inevitably you figure it out once you've replayed that scenario a time or two.

-Wraith
 
I've been playing Jagged Alliance 2 lately, and it's outstanding (you can read my comments in the JA2 thread). It's got superb turn-based combat. You said you like strategy, so I'd say JA2 is not to be missed (although it's more about tactics than strategy).

Make sure you check out the fan-made 1.13 patch too.
 
like always i suggest these games again:

The Longest Journey*
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (part 2)*
Nocturne(the best survival horror game i have ever played)
Chronomaster(wonderfull point and click adventure game)
Dark Earth
Blair Witch Projeckt 1,2,3
Blood 1 & 2
Aquanox
Aquanox 2


*= be 100% sure to play!
 
Beneath a Steel Sky.

One of the best point-and-click adventure games out there. It's freeware nowadays, give it a try. Great atmosphere, awesome artwork.
 
Few ideas:
civilization 2 ( great in lan parties)
Neverhood ( Hard to get AFAIK)
Day of the tentacle ( classic adventure game with lots of humour)
Larry games ( 1-5 are all quite playable, id recommend to start with the first one)
MGS ( you liked mgs2, youll like this)
Commandos ( challenging and fun )
Warcraft 3/frozen throne (RTS, fun in lan parties)
Unreal tournament 99 (classic arena shooter)
Full throttle ( classic adventure game)
Theme hospital ( bullfrogs hospital building "sim")
Settlers 2
 
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WraithUV said:
[*]Evil Genius -- Sort of a cross between the Dungeon Keeper idea and the NOLF idea. Basically an RTS / simulation which again takes the sort of tongue in cheek humor element of the 60s genre, but this time you're the bad guy, and you get to thwart the secret agents who come to foil your plans using your powerful henchmen, diabolical traps, and your expendable minions. Great fun for the whole family.

Nice to see somebody else played that game, I really loved it.

Another game not enough people played was FREEDOM FORCE and FREEDOM FORCE VS THE THIRD REICH. These are tactical superhero games (real time with lots of pausing) that people have made a million meshes and skins for, besides the FFX mod that adds at least 100 more superpowers.
 
I do not know if you like space shooters but I really liked the Wing Commander series, there is also its elite like spin off Privateer.

Other space themed games I liked were Star Trek 25th Anniversary and its sequel Star Trek Judgement Rites.

Mega Lo Mania and Cannon Fodder were also fun games.
 
Oh my God, I loved Freedom Force. Somehow I ended up with two copies, which ironically were of absolutely no use to me once I upgraded to Vista, since that seems to be my only game that isn't compatible. :'(
 
Stag said:
Oh my God, I loved Freedom Force. Somehow I ended up with two copies, which ironically were of absolutely no use to me once I upgraded to Vista, since that seems to be my only game that isn't compatible. :'(

Yeah, I think there is a patch that fixes this, I'll get back to you since at work my resources are limited.

I just reinstalled the sequel/expansion yesterday. My cd copy had a big crack in the side but I guess not deep enough to afect my instal.
 
quote="Eyenixon"]Also I raise argument with your assertion that Homeworld was the first true 3D RTS, if you mean in degrees of movement...<snip>
Anyways, that just reminded me of Myth and Myth II: The Fallen Lords, both of which I highly recommend.[/quote]
Yeah, I mean movement (I still don't know of any non-space RTS games that use it, though I'll admit that it's much less useful). The Myth games are great, never owned them but I used to borrow them from a buddy of mine and loved them.

Alphadrop said:
Can't be said for FFVII. The PC port was a bit naff and crashed a lot. To make matters worse my last disk was scratched and couldn't complete the game though thats not the games fault . :wink:
Don't remember crashing problems myself but there is a patch to make the game run at the proper speed (originally would speed up or down with your chip speed).

The Quest for Glory games are also fun adventure games with RPG elements (more of RPGs than Oblivion and Fallout 3 in my opinion) and I've heard that the Discworld games are good as well, though I haven't played enough of any of them to know.
 
Well, like an idiot, I thought I'd try MG1 & MG2 (1987, MSX), to get some idea of the back story for MGS.

Unfortunately, it's not 1987 anymore, and I can't bring myself to play something so dated and mind-bogglingly difficult.

You enter a room and have like 0.02 seconds to react before a guard sees you; who then promptly raises the alarm and brings 5 of his friends, all intent on making swiss cheese out of you. It's brutal.

Even with quick-save/quick-load (via emu), the game is still too punishing to be worthwhile.

On to something more recent, then.
 
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