Modding ideas/suggestions

Discussion in 'Fallout 3 and New Vegas Modding' started by SzU, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. Nullifidian

    Nullifidian First time out of the vault

    Nov 4, 2008
    Revolvers do tend to be more accurate, especially ones that have rifled barrels.

    Revolvers require considerably less maintenance. Decent revolvers rarely if ever jam simply because they are a much simpler design with fewer points of possible failure. Actually revolvers CANNOT jam. If a bullet fails to fire, just pull the trigger again and the next bullet will fire. With a semi-auto, you have to clear the chamber first.

    Revolvers can fire faster than SOME semi-automatics, but typically slower; the cylinder in a revolver turns slower than the spring mechanism can chamber bullets into a semi-auto.

    Lastly, certain revolvers, like the .357, have an amazingly large variety of calibers of bullet they can fire. A .357 can fire a .38 bullet for example.

    On the flipside, revolvers have more recoil than a semi-auto due to zero recoil compensation.

    Revolvers reload slower, even when a speedloader is used

    Mags for semi-autos require maintenance and should never be kept loaded for long periods of time unless you want to wear out the spring. Revolvers however can be kept loaded indefinitely.
  2. oihrebwe

    oihrebwe Still Mildly Glowing

    Jul 15, 2008
    every paragraph you just posted contains at least one false statement, please never post about guns again tia
  3. Eon

    Eon First time out of the vault

    Jul 3, 2004
    I hope this has not been brought up before but it may have and I might have missed - sorry if that is the case.

    I know you can save the map to a file Save kfMap <file> (I think). I wonder would it be possible to Mod that saved file back into the game for subsequent playthroughs to avoid some needless wandering.
  4. zodman

    zodman First time out of the vault

    Nov 5, 2008
    there is a lot of mistakes in the weapons/bullets calibers but to me is that the Chinese Assault Rifle (it's clearly an AK model) is shooting 5.56.
    Shouldn't it shoot 7.62???
  5. oihrebwe

    oihrebwe Still Mildly Glowing

    Jul 15, 2008
    yeah it should but there are too many different kinds of ammo in the game already. besides the chinese use 5.8x42 now anyway
  6. Spoonfeed

    Spoonfeed It Wandered In From the Wastes

    Nov 3, 2008
    i believe an AK uses 5.56 WP(warsaw packed(aka commie packed))
    but that could be me

    7.62 ammo would be nice though, i believe the real world counterpart of the assault rifle uses it
  7. Millenia

    Millenia First time out of the vault

    Sep 30, 2006
    Yeah, the G3 uses 7.62x51.
  8. Roflcore

    Roflcore Mildly Dipped

    Nov 2, 2008
    which we can ignore since the game plays in an alternate historyline were those 1995 weapons have never been developed ;)

    just make 5.56 to 7.62x51 and everything should be fine
  9. oihrebwe

    oihrebwe Still Mildly Glowing

    Jul 15, 2008
    well in that case we should drop 5.56 too because it wasn't standardized until the mid-60s

    not at all, the AK shoots 7.62x39 which is a completely different cartridge

    the only change that should be made is to switch hunting rifles to 5.56 or .308
  10. zd_rage

    zd_rage First time out of the vault

    Nov 8, 2008
    this game is perfect for a warhammer 40k / necromunda mod. i would really love to see one and i doubt it would be too hard some slight modifications to weapons, maybe some skinning and renaming etc. maybe throw in the different gangs and have random gang battles in the streets etc. brotherhood could become enforcers super mutants could be muties and stuff.
  11. zd_rage

    zd_rage First time out of the vault

    Nov 8, 2008
    Re: 35 mod ideas

    istead of all this, why not just a mod that plays the game for you?
  12. Mztr44

    Mztr44 First time out of the vault

    Jun 25, 2007
    I'm sure it will get done eventually without my suggesting it...but I want to see a Vic & Blood mod. Dogmeat can already sniff out ammo and food, shouldn't be hard to teach him how to sniff out the nearest female NPC.
  13. Covak

    Covak First time out of the vault

    Nov 8, 2008
    If it's at all possible, I'd love to use my Pip-boy without it pausing the game. Heck, I'd love to see conversations without the game pausing, too, but I'm guessing either change could cause problems.

    Ideally, TimeScale would be 1 during either activity.

    If we ever get a CS that may be the first thing I look into.
  14. spite_nike

    spite_nike First time out of the vault

    Nov 8, 2008
    Make Nuka-Cola addictive again... I wanna be a Nuka-Cola junkie xD
  15. Wreckless

    Wreckless First time out of the vault

    Nov 3, 2008
    All handguns have rifled barrels. At least, every single design I've ever seen made in the past 120 years or so, leaving aside wartime improvised or over-simplified weapons like the Liberty pistol - and handgun sized shotguns such as the Ithaca Auto & Burglar gun.

    Revolvers also are NOT particularly more accurate than any semiauto of comparable quality. That's as sweeping and ignorant of a statement as saying that cars with V6's are all faster than cars with 4 cylinder engines.
    That being said, the longer sight radius of a revolver with particularly longer barrels (like an 8 3/4in Smith & Wesson N-frame for example) does offer a bit more precision but the quality of the ammo as well as the actual shooter matter just as much if not more so.
    But considering that my own vanilla-stock Sig Sauer P220 shoots tighter groups than my S&W 686 despite the Smith's barrel being almost 50% longer speaks pretty clearly to me in this case.

    There's so much misinformation in this series of paragraphs that I don't even know where to begin.

    Yes, revolvers can jam, and a revolver is considerably easier to damage to the point of being worthless than most semiautos as well - any kind of damage or bend to the crane (thats the lever arm that the cylinder is attached to when it is swung outside of the frame for loading) will almost ALWAYS prevent a revolver from functioning. This kind of damage frequently happens if you're the sort of idiot that regularly snaps the gun to the right to swing the cylinder back into the frame, as seen in the reloading animation for the scoped .44 mag in FO3. At first it usually causes a slight misalignment of the cylinder which will drastically affect accuracy as well as projectile velocity, but eventually it can cause the cylinder to bind up in the frame or be misaligned to the point where the frame breaks open or the cylinder is damaged when the gun is fired.
    Also, when the internal guts of a revolver get mucked up or dirty, you better be a gunsmith if you're taking it apart because otherwise you're probably going to just make it worse after losing or breaking parts - whereas I can have any one of my semiautos field-stripped in under a minute and they never need anything more than a hosing-out with some cleaner, with a drop or two of lube on the slide rails, after which they got back together in well less than a minute.

    Also, someone else made the very correct observation that the open areas of a revolver are particularly vulnerable to dirt and other environmental problems because of how open the design is, which can also help cause the misalignment symptoms I just described above, or if a chamber in the cylinder is packed up with dirt on the front side of the loaded cartridge, when fired it can cause a massive overpressure spike and blow the whole gun up. Seldom will that happen, but it is a very real risk.

    As for revolvers firing 'slower' than semiautos, again, that's a very sweeping and ignorant statment. Most people cannot accurately fire either flavor any faster than the other.
    Well-practiced experts on either kind of weapon can sound like a machine gun. The vast majority of semiautomatics cycle so quickly that one must be almost unbelievably fast in order to start shooting faster than the weapon cycles, which of course is well in excess of the typical cyclic rate of most submachine guns.

    The revolver doesn't depend on anything other than the shooters mechanical input into the weapon to cycle, hence the trick shooters you can find on Youtube emptying a 6 shot single action revolver in under a second, while getting all six shots onto a playing card at 10 meters.
    Note that 6 shots a second is fairly slow when compared to some IPSC shooters that get close to 10 or 12 rounds a second in speed shooting drills with semiautomatic pistols - near as makes no difference as fast as an MP5 on full auto.

    As far as ammo flexibility, yes, .357 Mags can fire .38 because '38' is a misnomer of a designation, both cartridges have a .357" diameter bullet - the .38 is shorter than the .357 Mag and since revolver cartridges headspace on the rimmed base of the casing, one can shoot .38's all day long in a .357 quite safely.
    (BTW, the .38 SPL is only called a .38 SPL because of the old practice of loading 'heeled' bullets - a projectile that flared out to match the overall width of its cartidge casing like a .22 LR still does, though the practice is now obsolete in all except the .22LR)

    Now, there's plenty of semiautos that can perform similar tricks in some cases - my Smith & Wesson 1006 for instance, being chambered in 10mm auto, has a similar short cousin in the .40 S&W which is dimensionally identical to the 10mm auto in everything except overall length (and the corresponding lack of typical projectile weight and powder capacity)
    But since its a semiauto and it headspaces on the front rim of the casing you're not 'supposed' to fire .40 S&W in a 10mm because it'd be headspacing on the extractor instead of the actual chamber - but my trusty 1006 has a strong enough extractor that I've never had it fail when shooting .40 S&W in it, though some .40 ammo isn't hot enough to make the weapon cycle reliably.
    Yes, that is an atypical situation, but my point is that ammunition flexibility isn't unique to a revolver.

    Hell, in plenty of cases one can simply interchange the barrel and magazine to change calibers in a semiauto - I have a .357 Sig barrel for my Glock 22 (.40 S&W) and I don't even need to use a different magazine - just swap the barrels in under a minute and I'm firing .357 Sig or .40 S&W just as readily and reliably.
    My Father's Mark XIX Desert Eagle does the same trick with a simple barrel and magazine change to go from .50 AE to .44 Mag. Going down to .357 Mag only requires one to replace the bolt as well, which only takes a little more time.

    And those old fairy tales about magazine springs 'taking a set' just refuse to die - I've always kept my Glock magazines fully loaded when I wasn't at a shooting range for almost 10 years now and I've never had a single failure. Similarly, my many of my Grandfather's same old GI M1911 magazines haven't ever had a problem and they've spent the better part of the last FIFTY YEARS sitting fully loaded.

    Whew.. that ended up being a novel - but hopefully that adequately explains everything I touched on.
  16. lord_hellraiser

    lord_hellraiser First time out of the vault

    Oct 10, 2008
    There ain't recoil compensation in many, many handguns. I am not an expert, but, yeah.

    Semi-automatic handguns usually use the way the gun recoils in your hand to make the gun insert the next round.

    An exception is the Desert Eagle, which for some reason, is gas-operated which might reduce recoil, but not much.

    The only other way I know of is to use a compensated barrel. Wikipedia and Google will help immensely.

    Gun issues fixed, next please.
  17. shinymans

    shinymans First time out of the vault

    Jul 1, 2007
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  18. iridium_ionizer

    iridium_ionizer Mildly Dipped

    Jul 24, 2007
    Maybe if Bethesda ever releases the SDK, it would be possible to depopulate the landscape by adding more filler land (deserts, gullies, etc.) between the points of interest - effectively quadrupling the land area. Of course this would heighten the necessity for fast travel so it would be good if this mod as paired with a mod that changes the fast travel to the style from Fallout - free travel with an X on a brown map showing physical features of the D.C. area and green circles for the major points of interest. And with random encounters to boot.
  19. Pope Viper

    Pope Viper This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 9, 2003
    How about making Liberty Prime a playable character?


    Something else that would be nice, adding in some kind of forcefields. I really missed those in this game.
  20. Buxbaum666

    Buxbaum666 Heterostructured Nanorod oTO Orderite

    Dec 5, 2003
    I would appreciate a mod that brings back the PipBoy2000, the old map interface (both local and world map) and the old dialogue interface. I think that should be possible.