More useful items

Kain said:
Yes, but also, you could have a lightweight, but expensive, shovel that acted as a weapon and you could carry on your backpack rather than INSIDE it. (military style) .

"All's quiet on the Western front"!

"We don't use bajonets anymore, if you go hand-to-hand, use your shovel."

Sorry, had to intervene. Carry on.
 
Kain said:
Yes, but also, you could have a lightweight, but expensive, shovel that acted as a weapon and you could carry on your backpack rather than INSIDE it. (military style)

For example, in leather armor, you'd have to carry it by hand or in the car, but in combat armor (since it has a backpack) you could attach it to the backpack, as well as a flashlight, bedroll, watercan, multitool, flint & dry bark, map, and saltshaker (indispensable for retaining humidity in the desert.)

Now for useful items like pliers and screwdrivers, they could be put inside a "set" like a belt or a lockpick set and then instead of counting as 3 or 4 items it counts as 1 with a slightly reduced weight. (the toolset in fallout 2)

Also, what does a cutlass and a rapier have to do with usefulness? Except choppin up people....

Like your thoughts on the shovel.

No the point had to do with weight. You have to make choices about weight that have tactical advantages. While the rapier was lighter, the pirates preferred the heavier Cutlass. But in battle, chopping up folks with the Cutlass got tired, while the fellow with the Rapier was still shish kabobing people.

And neither weapon would be much use in Fallout, probably. Except perhaps that the Cutlass might be useful for chopping while the Rapier would probably be useful in stabbing.
 
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