Navy in fallout

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Martin

It Wandered In From the Wastes
what do you think would navy look like in fallout? would ships with sails exist? all industry was destroyed, or neglected for very long time. would ships evolve again as they did in our timeline? first were man propelled ships, thats out of question due to low population. but other, sail based ships, steam ships, or gas driven ships and eventually nuclear fission/fusion powered ones?

ships were extremely important in development of mankind, most largest cities formed close to oceans and seas and big enough rivers that could be used as "highways" for ships.

i know that some ships survived war, but what about newly build ships? NCR seems developed enough to field some navy forces.
 
I'd imagine steam engines would make a return alongside electric motors powered by fusion cells; with the later being less common. There would be incentive to do so due to transportation and fishing. Surely some fish species survived or mutated.

Overall. not taking Bethesda's ideas into account, wooden ships would most likely come back in mass due to foliage growth coming back quickly. Most ships would probably be made out of wood with scrap metal being used as nails & joinery.
 
I imagine post war boats being made from scrap metal and wood, and be powered by electric and steam engines. I expect to see paddleboats.
 
I doubt the NCR has much use for a navy, they're not nearly big enough for cross-continental colonisation and, they don't have any sea-faring enemies to speak of. Most ships are probably renovated/new steamboats for travel to and from island communities and, I guess raiders would've made a couple of scrap paddle boats in order to raid island communities.
 
Izak said:
I doubt the NCR has much use for a navy, they're not nearly big enough for cross-continental colonisation and, they don't have any sea-faring enemies to speak of. Most ships are probably renovated/new steamboats for travel to and from island communities and, I guess raiders would've made a couple of scrap paddle boats in order to raid island communities.
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all nations in our world regardless of size have navy if they have sea. even shitty czech republic had considerable river based navy until it got disbanded sometimes durning 1995
 
Yeah but the Czech Republic didn't exist after the nuclear apocalypse. I don't think there's much use for a navy in Fallout, after all NCR has three primary opponents, the Legion which is in the middle of the desert, the BoS which is too splintered to have any official defense forces beyond Knights and Paladins and, raiders which lack the resources to build a naval fleet. The main factions of Fallout are in desert terrain, maybe the BoS have renovated an ocean cruiser or an abandoned battleship but otherwise there is no known naval power in Fallout.
 
Izak said:
Yeah but the Czech Republic didn't exist after the nuclear apocalypse. I don't think there's much use for a navy in Fallout, after all NCR has three primary opponents, the Legion which is in the middle of the desert, the BoS which is too splintered to have any official defense forces beyond Knights and Paladins and, raiders which lack the resources to build a naval fleet. The main factions of Fallout are in desert terrain, maybe the BoS have renovated an ocean cruiser or an abandoned battleship but otherwise there is no known naval power in Fallout.
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dont tell me that ncr doesnt utilize merchant fleet to transport stuff, its cheapest form of transportation. and such fleet needs protection, with ever present threat of raiders. otherwise piracy would thrive.
 
If the powder gangers are any sign then they've gotten interstate railroads up and running for trade within their own territories, merchant fleets probably exist in a limited sense if there are any island colonies around the coast of California but if the fleets exist they would probably have to fend for themselves seeing as how NCR suck at patrolling the roads as it is, they're not gonna form a coast guard if they can't defend the roads.
 
but it could exist. not in form of pure battle fleets if there is noone to put up a fight, but rather coast guard, with motorboats and few bigger vessels maybe?
 
Well I would assume that ships would be built in the post war Fallout universe, if people still use some pre-war boats and ships (FO2 Shi have the tanker the player can help repair to reach the Oil Platform, FO3 has the riverboat that takes the player to Point Lookout and Tenpenny managed to travel from England to the Capital Wasteland and I assume it used a ship to do it since he doesn't have any air vehicle parked nearby Tenpenny Tower) I see no reason not to make new ones too.

Boats, rafts and ships can always move by the means of sails and/or by rowing (and slaves would be quite useful for that like in ancient times) so no external fuel or engine is needed.

In my opinion it would be a very useful vehicle to have in coastal areas and areas with rivers and lakes, would allow fishermen to get more fish out of the bodies of water and also to travel and transport people and cargo faster and safer than by land.

It would also allow the use of bigger weapons than just by having a person carrying them around and using them, so I think having some military or police boats and/or ships would be beneficial for some more powerful communities.
 
I think the NCR would find building at least a few ships worthwhile. As we know from conversation with Chief Hanlon the NCR is stretched thin in the resource department, and with nothing but a costly war to head deeper into Legion territory it makes sense to at the very least send out some kind of naval expedition in search of island resources. As for what would power these ships, the NCR has vertibirds so maybe retrofit those engines to boat.
 
Martin said:
all nations in our world regardless of size have navy if they have sea. even shitty czech republic had considerable river based navy until it got disbanded sometimes durning 1995
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Note that there are some nations without a standing military, such as Costa Rica.
 
Martin said:
they have coast guard.
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The Costa Rican Civil Guard is a weak, weak force that functions as an army, air force, navy, national police and coast guard. At its peak, the civil guard had 1 large patrol boat, 5 small patrol boats and 1 rescue tug boat. If you think that's a navy, then you're kidding yourself.

If you're going to be picky about this, then Vatican City. Foreign military aid doesn't count.
 
The-Artist-64 said:
The Costa Rican Civil Guard is a weak, weak force that functions as an army, air force, navy, national police and coast guard. At its peak, the civil guard had 1 large patrol boat, 5 small patrol boats and 1 rescue tug boat. If you think that's a navy, then you're kidding yourself.

If you're going to be picky about this, then Vatican City. Foreign military aid doesn't count.
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why so hostile? is it navy force? it is. so what?
 
Martin said:
is it navy force? it is. so what?
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In that case, every significantly sized business in the world owns a fully-fledged naval fleet. 7 small boats doesn't necessarily qualify as a navy, and it isn't considered a navy by the government of Costa Rica.
 
The-Artist-64 said:
In that case, every significantly sized business in the world owns a fully-fledged naval fleet. 7 small boats doesn't necessarily qualify as a navy, and it isn't considered a navy by the government of Costa Rica.
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id consider it navy in fallout universe where one guy can carry portable nuke launcher.
 
The-Artist-64 said:
If anything, that only makes it less of a navy. Everyone becomes even more advanced around this small group of tugboats.
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well. given size and population in fallout post apo around 2200, fleets of smaller vessels would make sense more than actual cruisers and whatnot
 
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