nazis, klansmen and racists rejoice!

[Starseeker]

LOL, welsh, my man, guess you are too busy with politics to hang out here.

I thought this GQ article was fascinating though:

http://men.style.com/gq/features/full?id=content_7483

WILL YOU BE MY BLACK FRIEND?
Sure, we may elect a black president this month. And yeah, Oprah has all kinds of white ladies in her audience. But in real life, it seems the older you get, the less chance you have of being friends with someone who is not in your racial demographic. Can a nice white boy make some black friends if he puts his mind to it? Devin Friedman posts an ad on Craigslist to find out

His story/adventure in this endeavour seem to confirm the aspects of the theory of Rational Segregation. This is explained and further explored in the article. So, what do you think welsh?

Why one would take out an ad on the Internet looking for a black friend is a legitimate question. Here’s my answer:

I had a cocktail party the other night. A natural moment to look around at the demographics of your life. And I thought: Jesus Christ, there are a lot of white people in this room. I’ve always thought of the whiteness of my adult life as a temporary condition. Like somehow all these white people have been foisted on me; pretty soon it’ll change; it’s probably my wife’s fault. But it’s time to acknowledge that I’ve become a character in a Wes Anderson movie. I wear white tennis sneakers from the ’70s. I listen to ambient music. I have dinner parties where I serve Spanish rosé and this softer version of mozzarella that has a lovely, almost liquid center that you can only get at the Italian import store. I do yoga, and I get excited when it’s ramp season. Sometimes I’d really like to punch myself in the face. (You might argue that I’m not describing “whiteness” but “arugula-ness”; but when black people have this lifestyle, they get accused of being white.) I used to make jokes about “look at us here at the weekend house in the Catskills in our blazers and sneakers eating the braised pork shoulder from the Jamie Oliver cookbook with the David Gray on in the background—aren’t we like that Amstel Light commercial?” You know that Amstel Light commercial about the white people’s country weekend—it’s white-people pornography. But I stopped making the joke, because it stopped being a joke. Because I stopped noticing it.

 

[victor]

Bring it on. I don't mind curbstomping some fucking skinhead cocksuckers. At least I'll have something to do.

Seriously though, I think everything south of North Carolina and east of New Mexico is prime training ground for the USAF to test new thermite bombs and bunker busters.

 

[Dragula]

I love the hypocrisy going on here, "racism is bad but the rednecks in the south are worse!!1".

 

[Bal-Sagoth]

I love the hypocrisy going on here, "racism is bad but the rednecks in the south are worse!!1".

Do not let it get to you, the media is to blame for how the south is still viewed by many. We actually had this convo a while back on metal-archives and the myth about the south being more racist than the north was squashed.

The forums are down right now but when they are back up I will try to find the topic and get the stats/research links they posted.

 

[victor]

There are rednecks everywhere, it's just there's a lot of them in the south.

 

[Dragula]

Do not let it get to you, the media is to blame for how the south is still viewed by many. We actually had this convo a while back on metal-archives and the myth about the south being more racist than the north was squashed.

The forums are down right now but when they are back up I will try to find the topic and get the stats/research links they posted.

I am well aware of the real picture, I have a friend in South Carolina that is related to one of the british aristocrats that ruled the colony in the old days. Very articular and intelligent individual.

There are rednecks everywhere, it's just there's a lot of them in the south.

And inbreeding is more common in the north. :]

 

[victor]

I have a friend in South Carolina that is related to one of the british aristocrats that ruled the colony in the old days. Very articular and intelligent individual.

Sounds like a confederate slave owner to me!

 

[Ozrat]

Overseer, where do you live? I thought you live in Iceland. Have you ever lived in the south, or the USA at all?

 

[victor]

Hehe, I was mostly baiting. I'm kinda familiar with the situation, I went cross-country with a car last summer, coast to coast. I don't think the "south" necesarily has a higher concentration of racists than the "north" (definitions of what is north and south is all but twisted nowadays, in my opinion).

I'm just saying racism is one of the plagues that follows poverty and unemployment, and the sometimes associated affirmative action. The south has traditionally been viewed as poor and uneducated, and hence, rasist. I'm not going to step into the complexity that is souther history after the civil war, that is best left for someone who knows better.

I have to say, though, I didn't see more, or even poorer, black or mexican neighborhoods as I went further south, rather the contrary (didn't go much further south than WV and northern Texas, so I can't really say much here, either). Actually, the states that are traditionally labeled as "north" had as many ghettos and bad reuptation ethnic neighborhoods, as far as I could see.

But man, West Virginia was a dump. I don't think I saw any non-white there, at all. A LOT of white trash rednecks, though. Same goes for Ohio and Indiana. Not going back there.

 

[Ozrat]

I find it really interesting that you stereotype people for stereotyping other people. What's your take on race in Iceland?

 

[victor]

What?

I'm not from Iceland. I bet they're kinda intolerant though. And what do you mean?

 

[Dragula]

Sounds like a confederate slave owner to me!

Indeed, his ancestors had slaves. That was the thought of that time period. Can you blame one for that? Do you blame germans that fought in the wars?

 

[victor]

Dude, I was just kidding. Chill.

 

[Infernaeus]

What?

I'm not from Iceland. I bet they're kinda intolerant though. And what do you mean?

They are the pure Nordic men of Ultima Thule, destined to rule the lesser races.

 

[welsh]

The KKK is not a terrorist organization- so what's that burning cross on your lawn supposed to be about?

http://newsok.com/upsurge-in-white-supremacy-point-to-obamas-election/article/3321561

That is why the KKK liked to lynch people, and this shit still goes on.

My view on racism? Honestly, I would bone any woman of any color as long as I thought she was hot. Period.

My friends are based on character and not skin color. What other folks do, is their business. But I reject any ideology that impairs to interact with people with equality. Fuck any racist motherfucker who dares impinge my right to interact with anyone I want to or associate in an equal way.

The theory of racial superiority is just stupid and usually perpetuated by a bunch of stupid inbred fucks who are too stupid to make more of their lives, and so waste time jerking their egos off saying their are racially superior. What a bunch of assholes.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/terrorism/article/security_briefings/281008

Kind of reminds me of Oklahoma City- another bunch of assholes wanting to kill people for their fucked up cause.

Check this-
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.pdf

 

[Bal-Sagoth]

The KKK is not a terrorist organization- so what's that burning cross on your lawn supposed to be about?

Well when they actually do the crimes sure, I was under the impression no notable crimes had taken place in quite some time. Perhaps a few random incidents but they could just be the work of drunk hillbillies and not the organization its self.

It should also be noted there is no one huge Klan group. Rather several dozen individual splinter groups who sometimes differ ideologically slightly.

My view on racism? Honestly, I would bone any woman of any color as long as I thought she was hot. Period.

The theory of racial superiority is just stupid and usually perpetuated by a bunch of stupid inbred fucks who are too stupid to make more of their lives, and so waste time jerking their egos off saying their are racially superior. What a bunch of assholes.

I agree the idea of racial superiority is very stupid. I have friends from many different backgrounds (ok except Muslims but that is another argument) and I can safely say I have met many black people I would take over some white people any day.

That being said I have never had a girlfriend who is not white and I doubt I ever will. The only exception would probably be Asian but for the most part I stick to the pale chicks

It is also far to easy to write all racist off as being mindless hillbillies. Some of these big money making organizations such as the National Alliance take a good bit of leadership to run. A very good friend in highschool was about as academically smart as you could imagine but he also had a picture of Hitler hanging on his wall

Anecdotal evidence I know but I felt its important to be said.

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.pdf

I cannot get this to open for me, might be a problem with my pdf reading software but I am interested to see what it has to say. If I get it running I will edit it in my post.

 

[Dragula]

Well when they actually do the crimes sure, I was under the impression no notable crimes had taken place in quite some time. Perhaps a few random incidents but they could just be the work of drunk hillbillies and not the organization its self.

Most likely, seeing as you pointed out, there are no centralisation in the klan, just small decentralised chapters.

I agree the idea of racial superiority is very stupid. I have friends from many different backgrounds (ok except Muslims but that is another argument) and I can safely say I have met many black people I would take over some white people any day.

But is not the agenda more segregation, than ethnic cleansing? I doubt few groups really want to wipe out all other races on the earth.

It is also far to easy to write all racist off as being mindless hillbillies. Some of these big money making organizations such as the National Alliance take a good bit of leadership to run. A very good friend in highschool was about as academically smart as you could imagine but he also had a picture of Hitler hanging on his wall

It is, it's also easy to write of communists as poor unedacutade dreamers with no firm grasp of reality. Or write of liberals as pro-drug hippies with no idea of what laissez faire means.
Stereotypes are easy to make up, and are very often wrong. David Lane was very educated, and so is David Duke from what I've seen, the on topic article even admits David Duke as an intellectual.

 

[Bal-Sagoth]

But is not the agenda more segregation, than ethnic cleansing? I doubt few groups really want to wipe out all other races on the earth.

More or less yes, all of the mainstream groups you find who have any real credibility at all stay away from the genocide/illegal aspect of it.

It is, it's also easy to write of communists as poor unedacutade dreamers with no firm grasp of reality. Or write of liberals as pro-drug hippies with no idea of what laissez faire means.
Stereotypes are easy to make up, and are very often wrong. David Lane was very educated, and so is David Duke from what I've seen, the on topic article even admits David Duke as an intellectual.

Shaun Walker is another one you can throw up there in the list, he is currently serving 87 months for civil rights violations but his credentials are pretty impressive.

"Walker grew up in Hayward, California. He served in the US Marine Corps from 1986 to 1990 with 2/9 STA Platoon as both a recon Marine and a Scout/Sniper. He was honorably discharged at the rank of corporal. He worked as a plumber in Sacramento, California for 15 months before going to college. He attended school in UC San Diego at John Muir College and earned a BS in Molecular Biology, with a Minor in History in 1997. He has had a life-time interest in genetics. His professional career in scientific research includes bone-marrow cancer research with trans-genic mice, experimental anergenic drug research for multiple sclerosis (MS) and work in Human Genomic Research for 7-years. During his Genomic Research he did a little work on the breast cancer related BRCA-2 gene, but mostly worked in genomic mapping trying to isolate a gene responsible for prostate cancer."

I guess he can always go back to plumbing when he gets out of prison.

 

[Herbert West]

The problem with this whole thing is that even if someone would make a study that would point out that lets say caucasians have in general 5 IQ points more than blacks while blacks have much better body skills, it would still be labeled racist, becouse we cant say that.

And this is stupid. By the very definition of migration, there are _bound_ to be differences between races. You know, thats why we call them races. Or subgroups of the H.S. species. Or whatever.

Of course, how these differences filter into the average life of John Doe is an enterily different question, but we should never, ever act as if everyone was equal in all matters. That is simply unnatural.

Oh, and the proper name for bald, muscular, nonliberal people is bonehead. I know, they usually refer to themselves as skins or skinheads, but they are simply stupid. The skinhead subculture (I mean the real one) is a descendant of the rough boys, a group that sprang to life from the friendship of lower worker class black and white man in GB, if I recall ocrrectly.

 

[Dragula]

Of course, how these differences filter into the average life of John Doe is an enterily different question, but we should never, ever act as if everyone was equal in all matters. That is simply unnatural.

Blacks needs special heart medicine, I think that fits into the avarage everyday life.