nazis, klansmen and racists rejoice!

[Patton89]

The problem with this whole thing is that even if someone would make a study that would point out that lets say caucasians have in general 5 IQ points more than blacks while blacks have much better body skills, it would still be labeled racist, becouse we cant say that.

And this is stupid. By the very definition of migration, there are _bound_ to be differences between races. You know, thats why we call them races. Or subgroups of the H.S. species. Or whatever.

Of course, how these differences filter into the average life of John Doe is an enterily different question, but we should never, ever act as if everyone was equal in all matters. That is simply unnatural.

Oh, and the proper name for bald, muscular, nonliberal people is bonehead. I know, they usually refer to themselves as skins or skinheads, but they are simply stupid. The skinhead subculture (I mean the real one) is a descendant of the rough boys, a group that sprang to life from the friendship of lower worker class black and white man in GB, if I recall ocrrectly.

As for the "race" thing sure there are differences, but do you know that there are MASSIVE differences between even single humans. 85 % of the differences are inside a population, for example inside the french population. 10% are between nationalities , hungarians and the french for an example. remaining 5 % are between "races". Really they are so minute that "race" makes no sense. So every one of us should be a different race because the differences are large. Not even genetic disorders follow the "race" concept. Africans have higher risk of circle cell anemia, but in also some Indian and Middle eastern populations. It's genetics, as we in finland have higher likelyhood of cancer than "average" human. So DOES that make me a subgroup of "caucasian" male ? Homo Sapiens cankeriaris ? Because thats pretty big thing. So i am not equal to you ? That leaves the only separational thing to be pigment of skin, and how does that justify different "race", or subgroup ? Ok so do you know that the racists themselves aren't sure about how many "races" there exist ? And equality is UNNATURAL ?
Sure, logic seems to be unnatural. As much as scientific method.gee

 

[Herbert West]

"And equality is UNNATURAL ?"

Yep. Show me any animal group that strives for equality. Show me any suscessfull time of human history where we were equal. And so on.

Nature has an inbulit pecking order. The more able tend to overpower the less able in some way. Or would you like a person with the IQ of 50 to run a nuclear reactor?

 

[Patton89]

"And equality is UNNATURAL ?"

Yep. Show me any animal group that strives for equality. Show me any suscessfull time of human history where we were equal. And so on.

Nature has an inbulit pecking order. The more able tend to overpower the less able in some way. Or would you like a person with the IQ of 50 to run a nuclear reactor?

Most animals lack reason and intelligence, there is a HUGE difference in between humans and animals. And is freedom of speech "natural" ? Is owning "natural" ?
I haven't claimed that perfect equality has existed, but again, why does it stop us from striving towards equality at all ?

"Natures pecking order" Oh great, more social darwinism. Social darwinism works in THEORY, not too well in reality. It would create immense problems.


"Or would you like a person with the IQ of 50 to run a nuclear reactor" and BTW IQ is pretty worthless in determening "real" intelligence of a person. Not even in same country. Results wary greatly, because the test indicate just a CERTAIN type of intelligence , new studies show that there are many types of intelligence, that were unheard of before.

 

[welsh]

Much of what that FBI report covers are cases of terrorism but it frequently mentions terrorist acts by both foreign nationalist groups, right wing groups and other fringe movements (especially environmental militants). No matter, violent extremists are usually assholes.

(articles below are being pulled from the Southern Poverty Law Center- but there are plenty of articles available on the web).

Any extremists groups close to our home?
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

hate crime?
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/hatewatch/fortherecord.jsp

Both links suggest that there is a lot racial hate going around.

Honestly, I don't think that the Klan, the Nazis or any of the other right wing white supremacist groups are necessarily southern. There are ethnic nationalists groups all over the US.

For instance-
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=892

But still- there is something weird in the south-
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=789

Nor are they especially dumb- just painfully misguided-
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=741
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=783

Are the Klan terrorist? here's a story of one who tried to blow up a sherriff's station.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=896

ANd if the article above didn't give you reason to doubt their sanity, than other evidence would suggest that they are often morally suspect. This story is local to my home-
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=757

(Honestly, a day is a little brighter every time one of these dickheads go to jail- child pornography?).

Both the Nazi's and the Klan have capitalized on the whole illegal alien issue, a great vehicle for stirring up racial hatred and fear-
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=642

Having a Latin wife, I take this crap personally. The problem with targeting Latin illegal immigrants is- (1) its vigilantism, (2) you can't tell if the immigrant is actually legal or illegal by the color of their skin.

Things is that terrorism isn't so much about violence but about spreading fear through violence. In a democratic society, the use of violence to spread a political message is fundamentally despotic.