New Vegas as made by Quagmire and Quagmire Associates

All things that I would say in critique of this have already been said. So the only thing I have left to ask is what was wrong with New Vegas to you?
 
And who si Quagmerica or Quagmire associates? it is some kind of delusion, role play or this actualy tought up by multiple people? Because it has MAJOR falws and plot hoels that you could pilot a Plane through.
 
Yeah, that's something that ran across my mind when I saw the title, if that's made by multiple people, then you got to get some new associates my friend.
 
I love the story of New Vegas, the main elements of it anyway. Two expanding imperialistic empires coming into conflict over untamed lands...

Why on Earth would we want any of these alternative elements suggested?

Also some of these 'ideas' are merely you taking the existing idea and saying 'the same but tougher'. Saying it's the same but better essentially, which isn't an idea. I personally don't feel anything you suggested makes any improvements. All this about the Kin? The NCR but tougher? Eh?

No.
 
Courier said:
I don't see why they're even a threat. The NCR, Legion, and the Strip should not be scared of a group of people even less advanced than the tribes of Zion. Seriously, couldn't they just get some of the artillery from Nellis AFB and wipe this tribe off the map?

Well... technically he said that there would be no Boomers in his story and the Boomers were the people who brought the artillery to Nellis.
 
RogerMaxson37 said:
Well... technically he said that there would be no Boomers in his story and the Boomers were the people who brought the artillery to Nellis.

The Boomers did not bring the heavy artillery to NAFB, they brought rocket launchers and the like. The artillery was already at NAFB since it's an Air Force base. Without the Boomers in the picture they could just walk right up to Nellis and take whatever they needed to repel this invading army.
 
Actually, the Boomers did bring the artillery to Nellis. The issue comes up when you're talking to that lorekeeper kid in the Boomer Museum. I can't remember if you have to pass a speech challenge or just ask him the proper question, but he tells you that they found the howitzers at some army depot somewhere and dragged them to Nellis because it was so highly defensible and well-suited to their needs. IIRC, it took weeks or months to get them from the depot to the base.

Here, let me just cheat and fact-check myself.
 
That still doesn't change anything, the NCR/Legion/Securitron Army/Whatever could have just gone to that place then and gotten the artillery. Nevada is full of military bases, somewhere someone's going to find enough heavy weaponry to fight off a couple savages.
 
I'm still waiting for the mutants to invade from Black Mountain and become a common enemy, the Enclave to fly in on their Vertiberds from D.C, and the East Coast Brotherhood to also fly in to fight the good fight.
 
Quagmire69, Quagmire69 never changes.

Why redo FNV? Go play something else. Or let us redo FO3 and make you play it. It's fair isn't it?
 
Looks like a concept that's all about "BIG CHOICES", and "EPIC SCENES". I don't see any substance to your re-imagining of New Vegas. A lot of the plot devices have been done before, and lack originality. A lot of what you suggest seems vague and undeveloped. A more masculine NCR? I'm imagining hundreds of Duke Nukem-esque clones endlessly stampeding into the sunset, even if that's not what you intend. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but this is just my honest opinion. =/
 
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