NFL 2009

Well, speak of the devil.

Brian Brohm just signed by Buffalo off the Green Bay practice squad. Sure would like to have that second-round pick back. :roll:
 
if i have to read or hear this fucking phrase one more goddamn time i'm going to send a brown bag of my own fucking vomit and bile to nfl.com

"No one knows how to have fun on a football field like Brett Favre."
 
UniversalWolf said:
A note on the Vikings leaving Minnesota: a few days ago the city offered to extend the Vikings Metrodome lease for free, and the team turned down the offer with contempt.

http://www.savethevikes.org/
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Because they want a new stadium, as the current Metrodome isn't raking in enough cash.

So, either Minnesota gives in and gives them a new stadium, or they'll be in LA by the end of next season.
 
The NFL wants a team in LA for their national TV contracts, but does LA really want an NFL team? They already lost 2 franchises to vastly smaller markets. There was no uproar when the Rams and Raiders left, especially when compared to the reactions out of Cleveland and Baltimore. Remember when the Browns left and they had protest/funeral processions through downtown? Didn't they burn Art Modell in effigy?

Besides, they already have a program that's better than probably 8 NFL teams anyway.
LaLa Land is Laker crazy, not so much for football.

I think Jacksonville really has to go, AFAIK all their games have been blacked out this year due to low attendance.
Buffalo isn't far behind.

Hate to sound like a broken record, but they should scrap those two. Go back to a 30 team league with three 5-team divisions.
3 division winners and 3 wildcards advance.
No more of this shit where .500 clubs from shit divisions lock up a spot when vastly better teams can't get a wildcard.

Besides, I want Indy back in the AFC east again.

Expansion has clearly dilluted the product.

This is a really bad year for competitive games.
Every week there's only 2 or 3 actual games. The rest are all mismatches (10 point spreads) or shitty matches CLE vs. DET this week wooo!

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Can't believe I missed UCONN beating Notre Dame in double OT. Easily the biggest win in the young program's history, and likely the final nail in Charlie Weiss' coffin.
We haven't had a football game this big in Connecticut since the glory days of Yale-Harvard (pre-WWII).

Got to say I'm partial to NCAA OT rules. Much more equitable, and makes for better games and clear cut winners.

NCAAs looking better than the NFL this year. Would love to see a team like Boise or TCU run the table, or at least hopefully if they do get cut out of the loop it will draw enough ire nationally to finally crack down on the BCS.



Took my kids to the Basketball HOF instead, pretty cool.

Anyone ever been to Football HOF? Always wanted to go, but can't imagine it's worth the trouble, no other reason to take such a long trip just for that.
 
Sander said:
So, either Minnesota gives in and gives them a new stadium, or they'll be in LA by the end of next season.
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Not that quick. There are still a couple of years left on the Metrodome lease. Once the lease is up though, there's absolutely nothing holding them in Minnesota. Either the Twin Cities build a new stadium with a significant proportion of public money (so the owner can make a profit when he sells the team someday) or the team will move somewhere else. In this case the leverage is completely on the team's side, which is why they can take a hard line with the politicians.

Minneapolis just built two new stadiums, one for the Twins (baseball) and one for the Gophers (college football), and there was plenty of discontent about it among the public. We'll see what happens. I think there will have to be some politicians who are willing to get voted out of office to get it done.

Favre might end up saving the Vikings. :mrgreen:
 
Not that any of you care about the CFL, but the BC Lions got their asses kicked today, fuck. Just to point out how weird Canadian football can be, the BC Lions (a western team) had to play in the eastern championships because there are more teams in the west then there are in the east.
 
Dirk Magirk said:
Not that any of you care about the CFL, but the BC Lions got their asses kicked today, fuck. Just to point out how weird Canadian football can be, the BC Lions (a western team) had to play in the eastern championships because there are more teams in the west then there are in the east.
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They play football in Canada? Where's that? :mrgreen:
 
That OT game and the simultaneous Giants/ATL OT game was good stuff. Good, meaningful games, that's the best past about the 2nd half of the season.

edit: Guess I have to eat my words on the DET/CLE game, epic finish by Stafford, have to think he finished them off with a disolcated shoulder too, looked like he was saying "it's out" at the end there.

Favre looking MVPish, O-line keeping him clean, no wild INTs. Have to give him his due.

Can't see how the Colts and Saints can remeain unbeaten much longer, they keep giving up early leads and surmounting them at the end. You can't keep winning like that, even against mediocre teams. That's a lot of pressure to manitain over the course of a year, saw how it caught up with the Pats.

Which makes me almost glad the the Pats have lost a few ugly games and the press gets all over them. Keeps them pissed off, hungry, and eager to prove people wrong.

Goddamn I want a Favre/Pats SB rematch.
Patriots could run the table...all the way to Miama', that includes spanking Nawlins, oh yeah.
 
Favre does look MVPish, and is certainly rising in the ranks of best QBs of all time, especially if he leads them to the Super Bowl.

He's not playing as well as his stats indicate, tho'. A few come-from-behind victories that did impress me nonwithstanding, he's simply not being asked to do too much.

This may sound odd, but the Seahawks D looked really good playing the Vikes, and I think some of the future opponents should take notes. In the first quarter, they limited Adrian Peterson to summat like 3.6 ypc and forced Favre to complete only dink-and-dunk passes to HBs and TEs. The Vikings O looked tepid, on both facets, and I don't think any other team's managed that so far.

Of course, our O couldn't stay on the field, and you can't expect the D to keep that up when they're on the field all the time. Still, with a more competent O and a good defensive setup, there's some lessons to be learned from the Seahawks game.

And it's part of the reason I'm not that impressed by Favre. Again, he and his statline look better because of surrounding talent and what he's asked to do, which is not often that much, though he has impressed at times when asked to do stuff.

Also fans can be so lulzy. Saw on blog-commentator note Favre "turned the Vikings from a good team into Super Bowl champions". I love it when people get ahead of themselves.

Also, Texans-Titans should be interesting. Sooner or later some team will figure out this Vince Young-Chris Johnson thing, and take away the run, you take away that team's O. Texans got as good a shot as any, solid run D.

Also :( at GB's defensive woes. Even with a W, this team's chances to get into the post-season certainly just fell.
 
Favre's value is in the dynamic he brings to the team, the threat of a decent to good QB opens up a lot of things for the run game as well. Add to that that he has a couple receivers who can turn those short throws into long plays, and it's pretty dangerous.
And something he's somehow gotten great at is not turning the ball over. That's a skill, too.

I'd still take the Saints over them any day.

Also, hot damn did the Bucs ever get slaughtered by the Saints. That was shameful.
Freeman showing that he is, after all, a rookie. One thing he desperately needs to fix is ball protection. He's great on avoiding sacks, extending the play and gaining yards on the run, but he carries the ball much too loosely.
 
The funny thing with Favre is that he's practically become a game manager rather than the trigger-happy gunslinger he's been his whole career. His INTs are way down, accuracy looks good, fairly consistent, even production. Haven't really seen any of those "WTF were you thinking?" catastrophic Favre forced plays that are part of his repertoire. That's pretty amazing
He knows his role and he's not freelancing. Kind of funny since that has to be why GB cut him loose to begin with.

Favre is the Rasputin of the NFL, he's got this weird mojo over people, and he can't be retired.


Sander said:
I'd still take the Saints over them any day.
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10-0 is 10-0. And the Saints are probably the most complete team right now.

But I'm not sold on the Saints. They've played a lot of tomato cans, and will continue to. I'd like to see how they fare against a playoff caliber team, that will tell me more what they are then beating the likes of DET, TB, CAR, ATL etc.

The Pats game should be a good barometer of who the Saints really are.
 
hey if you guys need me i'll be over at the Packers forums bitching about how we nearly imploded completely and blew a 20 point lead. i'll probably also say things like "Jarrett Bush should be thrown off a cliff" or "why, Al, why?"
 
Favre continues to be misunderstood...

He's not a game manager, he's a natural. He's an all-time great. Unless you see him play game in and game out over the course of a whole season you don't understand all the little nuances to his game. Without Favre the Vikings would be 4-6, and everyone in Minnesota knows it.
 
Huh, they actually relieved Jim Bates of his defensive coordinator duties in Tampa. Bucs are expected to go back to a 4-3, Tampa 2 scheme instead of the 3-4 they've been running all year but didn't have the personnel for.

Hopefully that will fix a couple of problems.

UniversalWolf said:
He's not a game manager, he's a natural. He's an all-time great. Unless you see him play game in and game out over the course of a whole season you don't understand all the little nuances to his game. Without Favre the Vikings would be 4-6, and everyone in Minnesota knows it.
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I don't know if they'd be 4-6 but they would definitely be worse off. But most of that is not because of Favre's MAGIC, it's because he's turned into a solid, game-managing QB that doesn't turn the ball over.
 
UniversalWolf said:
Favre continues to be misunderstood...

He's not a game manager, he's a natural. He's an all-time great. Unless you see him play game in and game out over the course of a whole season you don't understand all the little nuances to his game. Without Favre the Vikings would be 4-6, and everyone in Minnesota knows it.
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Looking to get hired for MNF commentating, UniversalWolf? You'd fit right in.

Cimmerian Nights said:
Favre is the Rasputin of the NFL, he's got this weird mojo over people, and he can't be retired.
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And he'll die after getting poisoned, shot, stuffed in a bag and thrown into a river?

Cimmerian Nights said:
But I'm not sold on the Saints. They've played a lot of tomato cans, and will continue to. I'd like to see how they fare against a playoff caliber team, that will tell me more what they are then beating the likes of DET, TB, CAR, ATL etc.

The Pats game should be a good barometer of who the Saints really are.
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They were playing their backup safety as a cornerback this week because they had - count 'em - 4 injuries at cornerback.

If they don't get healthy fast, their winning streak is about to end. No way they can keep this up with a broken D.

Sander said:
Huh, they actually relieved Jim Bates of his defensive coordinator duties in Tampa. Bucs are expected to go back to a 4-3, Tampa 2 scheme instead of the 3-4 they've been running all year but didn't have the personnel for.

Hopefully that will fix a couple of problems.
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It'll probably makes things worse this season, if that's even possible. Switching defensive formations is not the magic fix-all some people dream it is, and it almost always hurts on the short-term. Maybe it is a long-term answer for the next season, tho'
 
BN said:
And he'll die after getting poisoned, shot, stuffed in a bag and thrown into a river?
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If they killed him, he'd come back as a zombie and throw for 450 yards and 4 TDs. No other QB thrives on adversity like Favre. (Cue obligatory post-dad passing MNF montage).


Have to admit, I didn't expect the honeymoon to last this long, I fully expected this to blow up in Childress' face by now.

My daughter sees his Wrangler commercial last night, "Daddy is he gonna start crying again?"
BN said:
If they don't get healthy fast, their winning streak is about to end. No way they can keep this up with a broken D.
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No shit, they actually have to play a team with a winning record this week. :the horror:

Pats almost never play the 'aints. This will be interesting to see what kind of defensive scheme BB comes up with. Probably won't see their base D at all, lots of nickel with the SS in the box I imagine.

Vince Wilfork playing for a max contract is a magnificent thing to behold. I just hope he doesn't get *ahem* fat and complacent like Haynesworth after he got his payday.

Vegas set the line at 3, not a real vote of confidence for the Saints at home.

Let the hype train begin, "OMFG unbeaten vs. teem of the decades!"

Switching defensive formations is not the magic fix-all some people dream it is, and it almost always hurts on the short-term. Maybe it is a long-term answer for the next season, tho'
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Rookie coach, rookie QB, what's the D matter at this point? Classic rebuilding year. Start booking your vacation plans for the offseason yet Bucs?


Also 25 year anniversary of the Flutie Hail Mary pass.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ykWbu2Gl0[/youtube]
Glory days of the Big East before BC and Miami bolted.
Splitters.:evil:

Flutie has that funny thing going for him that he was like the greatest CFL player of all time. Kind of like Hasselhoff's reputed popularity as a pop star in Germany.
 
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