Obama's Speech in Berlin

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by iii, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. iii

    iii Vault Dweller

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    Oct 10, 2005


    Obama Berlin Speech: See Video, Photos, Full Speech Transcript:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/24/obama-in-berlin-video-of_n_114771.html

    Well, I have been there but so were 200 000 other people. So I had to follow the speech on a screen. I think I have to sleep a night other my impressions and think about what I have heard.

    Well, I will hold back my opinion as a political scientist for now, but allow me to make a personal statement:

    It takes balls to talk in front of 200 000 cynics who are cautiously examining every word you say and "buh" you into oblivion for any mistake you might make.

    It takes balls to walk the thin line of trying to appeal to the voters in America and to us self righteous Europeans at the same time. (Most Europeans probably didn't get how much risk he took for criticizing the USA).

    Well, I am quite interested what you fell and think about the speech in general.
     
  2. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Cynics? Our newspapers reported you Berliners were in the "throes of Obamania"
     
  3. iii

    iii Vault Dweller

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    Oct 10, 2005
    Well thats what the newspapers wrote, but Berlin is basically the German capital of punks, unemployed left wing graduates, the German anti globalization movement, hippies ... liberals, hell even our major is gay (and is famous for crashing every party :mrgreen: ) .... Well basically the whole coffee grounds of the European Anti Americanism.:wink:


    Yeah, we were really excited about the visit but there was a cautious silence during parts of his speech and only people inner circle (who could actually see Obama) were applauding frenetically. The masses around me cheered more cautiously. As I locked into their faces I could see that they understood what Obama meant by "us" and "we can!". :wink:

    But nevertheless, it was a good speech.

    PS: One of the last songs before Obama entered the stage was

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVDklW6qwk[/youtube]

    :mrgreen:
     
  4. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    The real way to win over Germans to Obama - Obama girl.
     
  5. Brother None

    Brother None This ghoul has seen it all
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    Apr 3, 2003
    Would you shut up about Obamagirl already?
     
  6. aronsearle

    aronsearle Still Mildly Glowing

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    Oct 14, 2005
    I've never understood why people cheer on polictictions as if they where celebs, it doesnt seem right either.
     
  7. Makagulfazel

    Makagulfazel Adept Bungler of Things Orderite

    Jun 14, 2007
    Mmmm... Boobies.

    Isn't Iran in South America or something?
     
  8. golfmade

    golfmade It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Apr 9, 2008
    All that said, I loved my visit to Berlin and would go back in an instant.
     
  9. Maphusio

    Maphusio Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Sep 25, 2004
    The speech was good, not as moving as those of the past... Christ that guy recited the entire thing from memory?!
     
  10. Jebus

    Jebus Background Radiant
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    Jan 29, 2004
    I am puzzled as to why 200 000 Germans showed up for that speech in the first place.

    I mean, I get the fact that Europe is indirectly influenced by the way the US is run - but seriously, 200 000 people? When was the last time a European politician managed to get such crouds?
    1942?
     
  11. welsh

    welsh Junkmaster

    Apr 5, 2003
    What? So now you're all McCain girl?

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3dy6myWxg8[/youtube]


    Sorry but Obama girl is like... hot. I am a political scientist.. I liked the speech. But...

    Obamagirl. Hot.
     
  12. Elissar

    Elissar Venerable Relic of the Wastes
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    Aug 31, 2003
    What bothered me about Obama's trip to Germany was that he pulled out of a scheduled visit to LRMC (the medical center Wounded US soldiers are treated at prior to being sent back stateside) simply because he was told that he couldnt take his aides and photographer with him (to be sure the visit wouldnt be misconstrued or used as a political tool).

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0708/Obama_cancels_troop_visit.html?showall
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-24-Obama-troops_N.htm
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D924E4KO0&show_article=1
     
  13. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    Apr 24, 2005
    Well, I bet the last popstars casting band got at least that much too. : P

    I live in berlin and everything was normal here, when he visited. I know nobody, who was "hot" to see him.
     
  14. radnan

    radnan A Smooth-Skin

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    Dec 1, 2006
    I see great potential for an obama truck/float at the love parade. Other than that .. i like the guy and i get the feeling he has a better international image then McCain - which would really help the US.

    As for the cancellation this was a political trip - if there was nothing to gain from visiting he would have been just wasting campaign time. Might have made him look more of a nice guy but zero coverage would have made him a bad politician.
     
  15. McRae

    McRae For sale: clown shoes, never worn Orderite

    Dec 9, 2007
    hehe, if Obama wants to be even more popular, he should think about having a meeting in Kazantip. Hypnobama is teh cool guy.

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  16. EnglishMuffin

    EnglishMuffin Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jul 21, 2008
    Everybody was on vacation in germany between 1939 and 1945 so they are making up for lost time now.
     
  17. Wooz

    Wooz Vault Sweeper Admin Orderite Board Cop oTO

    May 18, 2003
    Sorry to bust your Clever Joke, but y'know, the Americans started their European land offensive in 1944, not 1939.
     
  18. EnglishMuffin

    EnglishMuffin Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jul 21, 2008
    No...the germans....they started this little war in 1939. Look it up.

    iii wrote it's a nation of punks, unemployed left wing graduates, anti globalization movements, hippies, liberals.....

    Germans.....ya know...germans.
     
  19. Lexx

    Lexx Testament to the ghoul lifespan
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    Apr 24, 2005
    Aeh no. Maybe in Berlin are more punks and stuff, but no, the germans at all are not a nation of punks and or unemployed left wing graduates and so on. Germans are only lazy and every year if it gets warmer and warmer, they try to invade Mallorca. They can not win by war, so they try there new tactics since some years. It is called "eimersaufen" (bucket boozing) with the guys from other countrys.

    /Edit: The most time, the germans win with this tactic. :>
     
  20. EnglishMuffin

    EnglishMuffin Still Mildly Glowing

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    Jul 21, 2008
    Mallorca? Stop making up territories.

    By the way what is this shattered destiny, I am interested.