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Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Fowler, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Fowler

    Fowler Sedentary

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    Nov 21, 2015
    I get a free copy of Fallout 3 with my Xbox One copy of Fallout 4...

    Two sub-mediocre games for the price of one!
     
  2. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Then you get the rare opportunity to be twice as disappointed.

    But serious, if you don't like Fallout 4 why did you buy it then?
     
  3. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I like Fallout 3. The music and ambiance always appealed to me and I just ignore the fact that it's not in the same spirit as the originals. It still had its charm.

    Just reinstalled New Vegas in case Fallout 4 starts to grate on my patience again though.
     
  4. 5545Trey

    5545Trey Underground Deviant

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    Jun 25, 2014
    I can understand someone would enjoy it, but what charm did it have, aside from being the most popular game in the series?
     
  5. Fowler

    Fowler Sedentary

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    Nov 21, 2015
    I bought it as a fan of the series, and that is it. I needed to play it for myself so I could testify to its massive shortcomings, and perhaps to prevent others from purchasing it.
    Heed my words, I shall never buy any expansions for it.
     
  6. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    It was the first Fallout game I played and I had no knowledge of the franchise whatsoever so that certainly helped me enjoy it. Going in I really fell in love with the aesthetics, Inon Zur's music (the ambient music is quite relaxing at times), and the overall art direction of the game. I think the art direction was done very well (and also in Fallout 4) and that helped me get immersed in the world. It is important to keep in mind it was my first experience in the Fallout universe. As such, it had its funny and sometimes dark moments - slavers at Paradise Falls, Little Big Town, Moira in Megaton, Tenpenny, Dukov, the Enclave, the Brotherhood, Tranquility Lane, I could go on. I really don't have any objective argument for what makes me like Fallout 3, it just has some ambiance in its presentation that I find relaxing to play. While I understand the hostility toward the game it is always going to be a nice experience for me despite the valid criticisms.

    New Vegas showed me how things could be done much better in terms of story and writing and being truer to the originals, but I did not have any cringe-worthy moments playing Fallout 3 like I have during Fallout 4 (I just found the ghoul that was stuck in the fridge for 200 years last night).

    After playing Fallout 3 and New Vegas I played the original games and I saw the differences and understood why playing those first and seeing Bethesda's new direction would be quite disconcerting to say the least. And now I am experiencing that with the dumbed-down direction of Fallout 4 such that even I dislike the direction the series is taking.

    Bethesda made a pretty nice Capital Wasteland all things considered, in my opinion. Comparing it to the originals it's not the same, but as someone who was not "biased" by the originals I can see instances where they tried to give credence to Fallout 1 and 2 in some nice ways.

    This is why I support spin-offs of Fallout now - give Obsidian another shot at a Fallout game, even have someone develop a top-down isometric game like Wasteland 2. I think the series is in a good position to do things like this now.
     
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  7. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    You might want to give Fallout New Vegas a try, it tries to set up a more realistic functional world and has more role playing opportunities, but if you don't like the shooting parts of Fallout 3 this could disappoint you as well.

    I have played all Fallout games myself including the dreaded Fallout Brotherhood of Steel (okay I did not play Fallout Shelter) but yeah, I am also really disappointed in how much the series has gone into decline.
    Have already mentioned four times today how much I wish Fallout Van Buren had been released in 2002/2003. It would have been a good series conclusion.
     
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  8. Fowler

    Fowler Sedentary

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    Nov 21, 2015
    I've beaten New Vegas a few times. I feel like a masochist for playing through Fallout 3 two times. New Vegas was...okay. Not good, but okay. Adequate.
    It still suffers from its own batch of problems, mostly inherited from Bethesda's shitty writing and gameplay mechanics decisions.
     
  9. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    If you don't like either Fallout 3 or New Vegas you're almost certainly not gonna like Fallout 4.
     
  10. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Oh most definite! By the way, Fowler what's your favorite Fallout game?
     
  11. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I don't think Fallout needed a series conclusion. Thankfully, the games are independent of each other and didn't give in to the failed notion that stories told in the form of a trilogy work for video games (I've never seen a trilogy end well). Fallout has tons of potential now, and I hope it is not wasted by bad decision making.
     
  12. Titan357

    Titan357 First time out of the vault

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    Nov 24, 2015
    I really liked the direction the game took with the Pitt DLC, and while many locations and factions felt out of place it at least kept skill checks, memorable characters and locations and compared to FO4 the dialog is pretty good.
    Paladin Danse, Piper and dogmeat are the only characters I really can really and I just today finished the main story at just under 100 hours, would have been about 70 but I restarted my first play because I despise the male VA even after having almost 30 hours clocked with him. Fallout 3 has more going for it in the first 2 hours of game play than fallout 4 has in its entirety, its pretty much the equivalent of Oblivion to Skyrim.
     
  13. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    I definitely liked the atmosphere of The Pitt. It was an interesting DLC.
    Regarding Fallout 4, the male protagonist voice acting is the worst I have ever seen in anything including things outside of video games.