Oh, game industry...

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Eurogamer has an editorial on the front page about the corrupt nature of game journalism, how journos don't even give it a second thought to shill out and accept goodies, and how PR and journalist people are basically one professional, interchangeable field in the games industry.

Yay right? Only then EG was forced to edit out this bit under legal threat, and Robert Florence quit.

Game industry gonna game industry.
 
If I was a game journalist and they wanted to bribe I wouldn't set for shitty Snakcs (Mountain Dew tastes like toxic waste, and Doritos make every pore of my face erupt with anger) I wouldn't set for anything less than a Fancy dinner .
 
Why am I not surprised? This happened recently somewhere else too. It's a shame some people don't even realize this shit is going on.
 
The fans don't really care because game journalism, and fandom, is still in it's infancy. The target market is also filled with pre-pubescent shits. I figure as the industry matures better, more ethical, journalists will eventually get more prominent positions. But that all might be wishful thinking, it seems like major game journalism webpages are so tied to advertisement revenue from the very things they write about that it can only be so objective.
 
I stopped reading most game related reviews, as much as I stopped reading music cd reviews and movie reviews. Often other people don't hit my taste anyway and what they like or not like is not what I like or not like. For me, there is just no point in reading such stuff, as I can easily make my own opinion.

Other than that, mouth to mouth propaganda is far more important nowadays, imo. If someone here posts about a fancy game which I don't know anything about, I am more likely to check it out than if I read about it on a random gaming website.
 
I don't see a problem with this. It was a hashtag, not an advert. The company was simply giving away PS3s out of the kindness of their heart.

:roll:

I blame people for the corruption. "I don't see the problem." "They're just smart businessmen." "DEY TOOK ER JEBS!"
 
John Walker's writeup on this is very informative, showing fully what a shill Lauren Wainwright is (this is worth a read, too). She has to be fired over this, but she's really just a symptom of a much wider problem. Until this fiasco her working for Square Enix and openly shilling on her twitter page was simply accepted behaviour. That's gotta change.

Here's the full article unedited. I'm kind of tempted to post this stuff as news on NMA and mirror the article here too, but it's so off-topic for us.
 
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John Walker's writeup on this is very informative, showing fully what a shill Lauren Wainwright is (this is worth a read, too). She has to be fired over this, but she's really just a symptom of a much wider problem. Until this fiasco her working for Square Enix and openly shilling on her twitter page was simply accepted behaviour. That's gotta change.

Here's the full article unedited. I'm kind of tempted to post this stuff as news on NMA and mirror the article here too, but it's so off-topic for us.
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Hey man, it's your site. Do whatever you like bro. I wouldn't mind seeing articles like that on the news page personally.
 
It depresses me that it's Eurogamer caving in to these kind of people.

I mean, all Jab did was quote tweets from that Wainwright person's twitter feed. I am aware that the British libel laws are the most annoying and one-sided in the world, but even under those rules I can't see how Wainwright could possibly ever have a case. There are plenty of precedents that quoting things you publicised on the internet yourself couldn't possibly be considered libelous.

Eurogamer was just about the last game news site I read, because I considered them to be the last truly integer and *adult* gaming news resource, and one of the last websites to give real honest reviews. However, the rapid succesion of a) the appearance of booth babes on their game expo and b) this caving in and abandoning their editor to such feeble threats have made see that Eurogamer, too, has fallen.

It's a sad day for gaming journalism. Eurogamer's integrity was one step forward, this means two steps back. Nothing will ever change.

Also, Kharn, yes you should run it on the front page. This is a Mohammed-cartoons-moment of games journalism, you need to stick together.
 
Kharn, how many review roundups has NMA done? How many preview and news articles has NMA linked? Something that calls into question the integrity of the games journalism industry as whole is definitely within the scope of this site.
 
Yeah man, run it. It should be in the interest of any gamer to know about it.

Also, UK libel laws :roll: Keep on working just fine. I don't think Eurogamer had much of a choice here.
 
Didn't know the UK libel laws were so messed up. It falls to the defendant to prove his innocence? That's just silly.

Albeit in this case there was apparently no legal threat, just a request, and Eurogamer caved in immediately. They probably didn't want an escalation, but still...
 
TorontRayne said:
Brother None said:
John Walker's writeup on this is very informative, showing fully what a shill Lauren Wainwright is (this is worth a read, too). She has to be fired over this, but she's really just a symptom of a much wider problem. Until this fiasco her working for Square Enix and openly shilling on her twitter page was simply accepted behaviour. That's gotta change.

Here's the full article unedited. I'm kind of tempted to post this stuff as news on NMA and mirror the article here too, but it's so off-topic for us.
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Hey man, it's your site. Do whatever you like bro. I wouldn't mind seeing articles like that on the news page personally.
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Let's change the name to No Plebeians Allowed.

(Just a joke, I'm in favor of this. Our forum is not strictly Fallout related, and I would love to see some gaming non-fallout related news.)
 
I fifth the opinion that this qualifies to be run on the main news page.

Besides, outside of occasional Wasteland 2 updates, there's not a lot of Fallout / Post-Apo news to go around at the moment.
 
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