Origin license agreement gives EA right to collect and share

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How comes no one made a post about this so far ? This is a quite important topic in my eyes.

Luckily I dont use ANY software which requires Origin. But to tell you that much. Many of the things EA is doing here are not allowed in Germany and they are facing currently a few problems because of current laws which protect the users.

Origin license agreement gives EA right to collect and share

It’s already known that Origin will be required to play Battlefield 3 on the PC, and at first, it seemed like just another digital download service users would have to put up with. However, some might find it disturbing that, according to the Origin End User License Agreement (that thing no one ever reads), EA collects information about your computer, the software installed on it, its hardware, not only to “improve the service”, but they can also pass on this data to third parties, as the document states:

EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you.

The last part, “in a form that does not personally identify you”, is a relief, but still, it’s scary to know that Origin will be collecting all sorts of information from your system, including your IP address and other, non-EA software that you have installed on your PC. You can read the full Origin EULA here.

It gets scarier. Another EA EULA, which covers EA Online and EA account privacy (which is requited to play Battlefield 3), has even more concerning legal speak. The scary part of the EULA, as pointed out by a user on The Escapist Forums:

When you use EA online and mobile products and services or you play our games on your PC or console, we may collect certain non-personal demographic information including gender, zip code, information about your computer, hardware, software, platform, media, mobile device, mobile device ID, console ID, incident data, Internet Protocol (IP) address, network Media Access Control (MAC) address and connection. We also collect other non-personal information such as feature usage, game play statistics and scores, user rankings and click paths.

Since Battlefield 3 and all other EA Online games fall under this category, it gives EA the right to collect vast amounts of data on players, and to make matters worse, the beginning of the document states that you waive all your rights to be protected by law. Worse, EA reserves the right to share all of this information with any third party, including law enforcement agencies.

We’re not sure if this is common among other publishers in their license agreements (like Valve’s Steam service), but it definitely seems like EA is taking it too far, if not breaking the law. If you wish to read the EA Online EULA, you can find it here.
 
and they wonder why people download games? pathetic.

I'm not going near Origin, ever.
 
Yes. You can bet on it!

The gamers in Germany have send an open letter to the leading head of EA Europe (and more then 6000 people have signed).

It has been somewhat even in the media here where they mentioned in some news that BF3 requires Origin and it collects many data about the user. Quite many of them which have actually NO conection with the the game or the software at all ...
 
Yeah that sucks but it's something Steam and others have been doing for years. I don't really get all the "Origin is teh devil" rage on the ultranets. Compared to the likes of Facebook EA and Steam are shy choirboys.

Serge 13 said:
I hate battlfield 3 alone because it's all about destroying my hometown. :D

Now I understand your avatar, the ultra bloom melted your eyes and skin. My condolences :(
 
Thank god I never buy any games from them! EA:you can keep your shity Madden football games and Mass Effect 3.I'll buy WWE '12 instead.10 to 1 odds WWE '12 will have a better story than Mass Effect anyway. :D
 
As Painless said, Steam's been gathering hardware and location info from users for year. And they make it publicly available.

I don't use Origin because a publisher-specific digital download service is economically a bad idea for consumers, we need the competition in the digital download sphere. Otherwise. Eh?
 
Yeah, Steam, Facebook and other such applications all have stuff like that in their EULAs (as said, Facebook is the worst, it basically wrestles property of anything you put on the site). Don't know why people shit and moan about Origin but go back to praising Steam and Valve right after. Probably because Origin is EA, and as we all know Valve is good while EA is evil, right?

Besides, I am personally not overly concerned. Its not like they will trudge though the gigabytes of data every single user has searching for sedicious material or anything. And even then, in many places those EULAs are of dubious value at best, not that most customers realize that, unfortunately.
 
Not that I am concerned, since I've never used Origin, and I'm not a big fan of Steam either, but I can't but not be reminded of this.
 
Brother None said:
As Painless said, Steam's been gathering hardware and location info from users for year. And they make it publicly available.
Steam explicitly asks. :roll:
 
Ilosar said:
Yeah, Steam, Facebook and other such applications all have stuff like that in their EULAs (as said, Facebook is the worst, it basically wrestles property of anything you put on the site). Don't know why people shit and moan about Origin but go back to praising Steam and Valve right after. Probably because Origin is EA, and as we all know Valve is good while EA is evil, right?

Besides, I am personally not overly concerned. Its not like they will trudge though the gigabytes of data every single user has searching for sedicious material or anything. And even then, in many places those EULAs are of dubious value at best, not that most customers realize that, unfortunately.
That is, of course very true.

The current trend is in my eyes quite alarming with more and more places treating the data of the people in a very questionable way. And the younger generation seems not to care all to much - just see the popularity of sites like Facebook and its not like they are the only one. It is the mentality of the people which allows programs like Origin, Ubiluncher and Steam to exist in their current forms which are not that great for the consumer as they do not only spy on him but they also cut their rights heavily regarding the products. People think its alright as long they "know" they are spied and then it is not "wrong". But what makes your personal data on the PC different then what you do inside your room ? Or what you write in your mails ? I mean would anyone of them allow a stranger to look inside their living room any time they turn on the TV because they want to collect the data about the behavior of people ? There are ways how to collect data as you need them for various reasons (studies and such). But the way how the programs do it today is a very questionable way. Not to mention because there is no transparency. You never know what happens with those informations. You never have really access to them. Even if you delete your Facebook page the "informations" are still stored. They are NOT gone. Try to ask Facebook for your data for example.

As said. As "old time" PC user I cant say that I really welcome the current evolution. Origin is just another "step" on it. They are not the worst. But they are part of the whole picture. I really hope (but I don't count on it ...) that the people will wake up at some point. But how much hope is there if even I use Steam ...
 
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