Osama and Sadam, the Hitler and Musolini of our times.

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Now Osama poses a much greater threat than what Sadam did, so I labeled him as Musolini instead of Hirohito since Musolini didn't pose a threat as great as one posed by Hirohito and Hitler. Now there is really great news for the coalition. There is now more proof of the alliance of Osama and Sadam. How they planned to use chemical weapons against the U.S. and planned for a mutual non-agression plan. Sadam, being the fool he is to trust a terrorist who attacks his own, agreed to the plan. And more good news, there are leaflets being passed out by former bathists saying they have kicked out Sadam from the party and are willing to contact the U.S. and coalition to talk peace terms. Supposedly, it is because of the proof of alliance between Osama and Sadam. And a more tragic good news note. It took casualties, but Turkey was given a grim reminder, Osama, and any other terrorist, don't give a damn whether you are muslim or not, they attack anyone. So this is tragic since more than 300 people are wounded and more than 20 are dead. But it presents a light side, the Turkish saying that it will not go unpunished. So hopefully, they will become more active in the hunt for Osama, and hopefully, the offer of peace talks by the bathists is not a trap and presents us with a Sadam.
 
When did it got proven that there was an alliance between the two bastards?
What chemical weapons are we talking about here? Someone they have found in Iraq?
Also i have not heard that osama is involved with the attacks in turkey.
 
Didn't they also say this one year ago? I want to see some EVIDENCE, not silly rumours.
 
There is no proven link between Osama and Saddam, and even if it was one, the analogy is flawed.
 
Greetings

This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States. We have a problem. The companies want something done about this sluggish world economic situation.

Profits have been running a little thin lately and we need to stimulate some growth. Now we know there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job.

It's about time we did something constructive with these people!
We've got thousands of 'em here too! They're crawling all over!
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together- And start another war.
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro...Napalm...People running down the road, skin on fire...
The Russians seem up for it : The Kremlin's been itching for the realt hing for decades. Hell, Afghanistan's no fun, so whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population.

Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can. We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on, hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way to....hmmm... North Korea? Rwanda? Sierra Leone? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?

We'll just cook up a good TERRORIST threat story in the Middle East. We need that oil.
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad didn't even show up. I tell ya, that man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one. Now just think for a minute...We can make this war so big...so BIG...The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper. We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right. Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls!

Now don't worry about demonstrations, just pump up your drug supply. So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam, I mean, We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong. Kept the war functioning just fine.
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer they won't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard, they wouldn't even know what it looked like... hahaha.

So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless we get our bomb factories up to full production the whole economy is going to collapse.
The Russians are in the same boat, So are the Chinese.
We all agree the time has come for the big one... so... whaddaya say?!?

That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.
 
King said:
Now Osama poses a much greater threat than what Sadam did, so I labeled him as Musolini instead of Hirohito since Musolini didn't pose a threat as great as one posed by Hirohito and Hitler. Now there is really great news for the coalition. There is now more proof of the alliance of Osama and Sadam. How they planned to use chemical weapons against the U.S. and planned for a mutual non-agression plan. Sadam, being the fool he is to trust a terrorist who attacks his own, agreed to the plan. And more good news, there are leaflets being passed out by former bathists saying they have kicked out Sadam from the party and are willing to contact the U.S. and coalition to talk peace terms. Supposedly, it is because of the proof of alliance between Osama and Sadam. And a more tragic good news note. It took casualties, but Turkey was given a grim reminder, Osama, and any other terrorist, don't give a damn whether you are muslim or not, they attack anyone. So this is tragic since more than 300 people are wounded and more than 20 are dead. But it presents a light side, the Turkish saying that it will not go unpunished. So hopefully, they will become more active in the hunt for Osama, and hopefully, the offer of peace talks by the bathists is not a trap and presents us with a Sadam.
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Ok, King, as you can see there are a lot doubts raised by what you are allegating. How about some proof? Do you have some news links perhaps?
 
Of course they're threats to world peace, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them Hitler and Mussolini.
 
No, actually I would say that they really were threats to world peace. Imminent threats? That's worth thinking about.

But I am still waiting to see evidence of what King posts above. Frankly, I suspect it was found in a box of Cracker Jack.
 
An Englishman, an American and an Arab all board an airplane.
After they take off, an air-hostess approaches the Englishman and asks him if he wants an alcoholic beverage. "I'd like some whiskey, please", he replies. She then asks the same question to the American and he says "Get me a beer".
Then she asks the Arab and he replies: "Thanks, but no alcohol for me. I will be driving soon"

I heard this joke yesterday, but it pales in comparison to the contents of this thread :P
 
that's why i love this country (chile), the problems seems SO FAR AWAY 8)

Anyways, i hate Saddam Hussein, i think his governement was a pile of brahmin crap... but i also think that the US did very wrong interfiering over there... Bush just wanted to make war, it seems that the arguments were just lies
 
Here is the information on the attack in Istanbul
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,103226,00.html

But I couldn't find any information about the new Osama link with Sadam or the one with the leaflet. I didn't lie however. It was all over Fox News and reported in a section on CNN last night. If you don't believe, then oh well, since I can find no information on the sites I guess all I can say is watch the news and perhaps they will remention it. Or, if you would like to check it out yourselves and see if you can find the info,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/?ok
http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.cnn.com

Like I said, I didn't get any of the above information from a website. I got it from watching the news last night. But I will check their site for a few days to see if they print it. But if you need proof, just email them to get a confirmation of the reports. I am not sure if the BBC reported it, but I know that Fox did. I was just trying to lay some good news down on the situation in Iraq, but it seems that all you want is for the coalition, especially the U.S., to fail. Oh well, I would never wish such terrible things on any nation with good intentions, even if it was just France in there. The current form of no government in Iraq is more free than what Saddam had, but I guess people just can't realize that freedom isn't free and takes time. It can't be done with a snap of the fingers for Pete's sake.
 
I don't see how you can compare Sadam and Osama to Hitler and Mousolini. Hitler's Nazi Germany was a superpower while Sadam barely even had an army, and thousands of his soldiers surrendered without even firing a shot. I would compare Sadam and Osama's influence to people like Al Copone. Im not really up to date on my current events but Im pretty sure thats all BS. I know they haven't found any chem weapons or any rel links to sadam and bin laden


I don't know how many of you read Newsweek, but I found pretty interesting how they printed an article talking about all the information Cheney filtered in order to "Sell" the war. I just found it funny how even the popular Media is ridiculing the Bush Administration.
 
I was comparing Sadam to Musolini, if you must insult me, then do so but know what you're talking about. I compared Osama to Hitler, not Germany. And I am sure you aren't trying to make us believe that our government is all bad no matter what. Don't tell me that we are spreading propoganda, when you are saying that we are doing everything the wrong way and saying how we should be doing it. Are you in politics? Do you know anything of politics? Do you know what it takes to rule? I am not, but I am trying to point out the lighter side in all of this. Why? Because everyone else is pointing out everything that is wrong. So I figure, for once, let us give the Americans a break. By the way, the things I said wasn't bull, it was reported and recovered evidence being examined at this time.
 
King said:
I was comparing Sadam to Musolini, if you must insult me, then do so but know what you're talking about. I compared Osama to Hitler, not Germany. And I am sure you aren't trying to make us believe that our government is all bad no matter what. Don't tell me that we are spreading propoganda, when you are saying that we are doing everything the wrong way and saying how we should be doing it. Are you in politics? Do you know anything of politics? Do you know what it takes to rule? I am not, but I am trying to point out the lighter side in all of this. Why? Because everyone else is pointing out everything that is wrong. So I figure, for once, let us give the Americans a break. By the way, the things I said wasn't bull, it was reported and recovered evidence being examined at this time.
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I did not mean to insult you, I was just saying that your information is BS, concidering that no chemical weapons have been found and that the link between Osama and Sadam was just a rumor started before the War.

And no Im not "in" politics and I know just as much about politics as the next guy. Im pretty sure it doesn't take that much to rule, concidering the person who has been elected president.

And I still can't see how you can compare Osama or Sadam to Hitler. both of them present no were near the amount danger as he once did to any country.

And its pretty obvious that the Gov't is trying to spread propaganda to change the overall attitude towards the conflict. like The Iraqi prison video tapes just released showing people getting there fingers cut off and whatnot, trying to get people to forget about the chemical weapons and see how we have been doing the right thing all along. But what people like you fail to realize that there are still many evil dictators out there and the same kind of rituals being carryed out.
 
Hmm...true. Well you do have your points. I am not worried about the chemical weapons. An evil guy is out of power. Now I am comparing Osama and Sadam to Hilter by thier evil acts and ambitions, not by the power they hold. I should have made that more clear if I didn't. Sorry. No matter the war, there will always be propaganda. But I just find it troublesome to try and understand why people are saying what we did was a bad thing. The people that say that didn't have to live under tyranny. So they complain that we should free everyone. I am not saying you are one of those people Grizzly, your just exercise your rights, but the people who do say that, fail to realize that for one, they should be happy we have freed at least one, and for two, we can't take all dictators on at once without causing mass casualites and collateral damage. By that I mean, we can, but it will cost lots of lives, not just soldiers, but civilians as well. Like take this for example, there are many who die in New York City everyday due to gang related problems and confused teens who hate everything, which resembles problems in Iraq. So, should the United States withdraw from New York? I mean, you can't say that if things are going bad, we have to retreat everytime. If we do, then they have won. And we are no longer. Everything that our forefathers have fought and blead for is dead and over if we run from problems.
 
King, how......silly.

I mean, if there had actually been some good news abnout it, I'm very sure I had heard about it in the news by now, but, looking at the current newspapers, I see nothing. Nothing at all.

Now, about retreating from Iraq:
The US should not retreat from Iraq, not now that they have created such a bloody mess. They should stay there, and fix as much as they can, preferably with the help of the UN. They shouldn't have invaded, but now that they have, they shouldn't make it worse by getting out of there.
 
Well, if the Iraquis don't want to build a society, a US or UN presence won't change much. Of course the soldiers will play policemen for a while, but eventually the troops will have to leave.

Anyways, I don't think the Americans will leave soon. They'll build up a replica of the former regime, maybe eliminating some of the torture/terror aspects, giving hints of democracy to its citizens. Eventually putting a little oil-pumping puppet at the head of the country.

Until then, the US troops have to stay to "stabilize" the country.

" Nothing but poison plants can grow from poison seeds "
 
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