Osama and Sadam, the Hitler and Musolini of our times.

They are liars and whores... The US and many others were not ignorant of the atrocities of Saddam, it was their training and funding to break the Iranians that forged this dark being...

And unlike Hitler, Saddam's movements were noticed, they were simply ignored for thirty years.

The KKK is a terrorist group in many ways, and so are those damn neo-Nazis....
 
Hitler's movements were noticed. You can't whoop an army the size and power of the Wehrmacht in a couple of days. You have to raise factories, employ people, use enormous amounts of raw materials to shape them into weapons.

The KKK isn't a terrorist group. It's a pathology. A minute of silence to honour their brains, who fought bravely against closed minded dogmatism but fell in the struggle.
 
Rama:

Hitler's movements were noticed MORE than Saddam's movements. The guy even wrote a book before he got elected about what he was going to do if he got to power.
 
Can you believe that Mein Kampf still gets published all over the world? Forget freedom of speech, that damn book should be forbidden and every existing copy should be destroyed.
 
No way, destroying "evil" books is acting exactly like a closed minded fascist. You have to let this book live, to show people o what extremes a human being consumed by hatred and nationalism can do.

Besides, neo nazis are great shoe-polish.
 
Ratty said:
Can you believe that Mein Kampf still gets published all over the world? Forget freedom of speech, that damn book should be forbidden and every existing copy should be destroyed.

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Last I checked, Mein Kampf is a banned book. I believe there're only a few copies of it in closed vaults in spread libraries and universities in Germany, and you can only access them if you need to read the book for a study or the like.

Mein Kampf was surpressed for eons, it surfaced again because of that glorious invention: the internet!

And you can't censor the internet, if you did, illegal downloading would have to stop too. Ehehehe.
 
Mein Kampf is not banned in the US. Just checked my Uni library page and it's there. ANd I have not heard of it being banned elsewhere.

But this is usually a local level matter when some small group tries to ban books from the town public library, and when that happens it usually sets off a shit-storm of protest.
 
Sorry Kharn, my mistype. I meant I had not heard of it being banned elsewhere in the US.

Yes, I had heard that it was banned elsewhere, and I am not surprised. Still, as the discussion above has pointed out- free speech includes the right to read or hear "bad" speech.

The idea in the US has often emphasized the notion of a "market place of ideas" in which good ideas compete with bad ideas, and those ideas that are bad are often moved out of the market because no one "buys them".

Sometimes that doesn't work. About three years ago someone thought it would be a good idea to vote for George Bush, and thus, with a minority of the popular vote, he wins.

So it's not qutie a perfect system.
 
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