Karkow said:well... Oporto is a city... in Portugal...
Elmohead=Alamohad. Just a pun. CK is great, IMHO, but I'm biased, as any game where I can be an Armenian King of Iran is gotta be great in my opinion.Karkow said:Well, Porto is the same as Oporto, but Porto is the "Portuguese way" to say it, the English way is Oporto (dunno why).
Like, for example, "Italy" and "Italia" or "Lisbon" and "Lisboa".
I don't know "Crusader Kings"... but if the game describes historical events, then that would be the battle against the moors. All of Portugal was conquered by the moors, except the North, being Porto (or Oporto) the greatest town in the north of the country; we fight off the moors from it and re-conquered the country.
Kotario said:How about this as an intellectual exercise, is there a single person who we could all agree upon should be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world?
ARRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! DIE!Kotario said:At least Bush is honest,
*nods*Actually, most of the attacks Al-Queda has made over the last year have been within two thousand miles of Mecca. He's an ultra conservative Wahhabi (which means that he hates Sunnis and Shi'ites as much as the Christians) shitdick that thinks that killing innocent Christians, Jews, Sufis and, now predominantly, Shi'ites and Sunnis is somehow going to make them another shitdick.
Here I disagree, he is a smart man because he manages to not only divide the west, but cause fear and immense casualties at the same time. His goal currently is not to kill as many non-muslims he dislikes as possible, it is to stop America. The rest is of secondary importance.If he was smart-which he is'nt- he'd be attacking China- a place that has tens of millions of Muslims, Sunnis all, and trys everything they can to destroy them, Russia-for Circassia, Georgia for Abkhazia, and all European states within defined Dar-al-Islam. Instead he kills Muslims.
People said that Reagen would destroy the world. Funny how often people are wrong about Republican presidents, eh?
Nope. Everyone else did. Saddam still kicked out the wepons inspectors, remember? He just did it because he is a paranoid motherfucker.A) Bush ignored the UN, and thereby practically destroyed the use of the security council by going past them. (Even though he had a very old UN resolution. That's only technical).
Now. There are no WMD now. He certainly used them in the Iran-Iraq war, and odds are he had some and got them off somewhere. I just don't think a guy like Saddam Hussien is capable of thinking clearly beyond WEPONS=DEAD ENEMIES=GOOD.B) He lied to everyone abnd everything about the WMD. There are no WMD.
Woodward says he was decived himself. And I think the Americans would have supported the war without WMD, we need to create an Arab democracy with a population above 1 million to insure shit like 9/11 stays infrequent.C) He deceived the American public, got them to believe in him, and justified a war (ie. killings) with those lies.
Flat out wrong here. Ted Kennedy had the cojones to call it Bush's Vietnam, and quite a few of the less likeable lefties either agree or go farther then that.D) By doing so, he also caused the general American public to stand up against anyone who disagreed with him. (Oh, no, the war has begun, now you must shut up you unpatriotic asshole.)
Thanks. Though we disagree alot, I missed the disagreeing.Welcome back, CCR.
He has done some smart things (Spain, or at least taking credit for it, bombings in Turkey, the one democratic Muslim state), but overall he has, to date, killed alot more Muslims then Americans. I think. Remember that Indonesian night club? Combine that with the shit in Riyadh and Iraq, it's safe to say that he has killed more Muslims then Americans.Here I disagree, he is a smart man because he manages to not only divide the west, but cause fear and immense casualties at the same time. His goal currently is not to kill as many non-muslims he dislikes as possible, it is to stop America. The rest is of secondary importance.
People are forgetting how much Bush has in common with Reagen. Anyone remember Atwood's rag The Hadmaiden's Tale, or how many people thought the world was going to end because of Reagen's brinkmanship? They where all wrong.Really, CCR, people say all sort of things about both Democrats and Republicans. People claim a lot of things, naturally a lot of those things are false.
Yeah, I hate the way we do that. I can understand doing it to unpronouncable words, but "Italia", is that hard to say?Karkow said:Well, Porto is the same as Oporto, but Porto is the "Portuguese way" to say it, the English way is Oporto (dunno why).
Like, for example, "Italy" and "Italia" or "Lisbon" and "Lisboa".
Sander said:PS: On the Nader thing. If you were not going to vote for anyone in the first place, voting for Nader is not taking votes away.
Big_T_UK said:Yeah, I hate the way we do that. I can understand doing it to unpronouncable words, but "Italia", is that hard to say?
BTW, we call it Porto in England, maybe it's an American way to say it? Or an outdated English way?
/derail
Ancient Oldie said:BTW, has anyone heard of that movie that has Al Gore running for office after the ice caps melt? I'm not making this up. He pretty much says that we fucked up the environment and that we should have originally voted for him so as to prevent this disaster. Good laugh.
When did I say "they"? I said "We". I am English.Kharn said:"they"? Name one language that *doesn't* do that. It's not exactly unique to the English.
Big_T_UK said:When did I say "they"? I said "We". I am English.
As to other languages doing it, I've no idea. Strictly Monoligual here.
English is llikely to be worse than others, I would think. Very few English people even try to pronounce foreign words. French, particularly, is funny when spoken by an Englishman, mostly we try to speak it as if it's English.