Party members dissapear in New Reno

sephiroth_duck

First time out of the vault
okay, here's the deal.

i took vic up to the second floor of Bishop's casino in New Reno.
We killed a few guys, then i exited combat mode, talked to mrs. bishop, and slept with her.

anyway, the game cuts to the scene upstairs with you and mrs. bishop in bed, i killed her, her husband, and the rest of his men, and realized that vic wasnt with me. oh well, i figured, must be downstairs... so i go downstairs, to the second floor, and he's nowhere to be found..... i go to the bottom floor and he's totally gone...

so i figured the guy was dead, but i just leveled my character up, and it told me that Vic had just gained some abilities. now im confused... where the hell is this guy? i never told him to wait anywhere, he just kinda never followed me after sleeping with mrs. bishop.

help! :shock:
 
Before banging ms. Bishop, leave your friends downstairs.
 
well yeah, but the thing is, i already saved after banging her... so is vic gone for good... cuz he's apparently alive... somewhere... i've searched new reno inside and out, and he's nowhere to be found...
 
This is a bug, if you didn't tell your companions to wait before going up with Ms. Bishop/daughter Bishop, they'd just dissapear. So I'm afraid he's gone, unless you have a back-up NPC...
 
This is similar to the absence of the kids in Fallout2 UK version. They removed kids just by removing the sprites (frm files) of them, so the kids DO exist and walking around invisible, while you can hear them. My first time playing Fallout2 without kids I even became a child killer.

So I guess if you can see that Vic is leveling up and still joins your party, he is probably invisible because the vics sprite cannot be triggered or corrupted, which is almost impossible. So ask technical support for Vic's frm files or try to rip them and put Vic's frm files in the propper directory ( like the "kids patch" working ).

But it's just an idea, I'm not sure if this will work...
 
I am first time into this game and I got a similar problem. The main character is Chitsa, after I sleep with Mrs. Bishop then get back to second floor, all my party members gone. Worst of all, I save very little, the latest save file will be several months ago in game time.

Some forumer suggest kill the Bishop family or sleep with her daughter may solve the problem. Still I am not try them yet, this game disappointed me a lot, slow combat, silly party AI, fatal bugs, cumbersome items management.

PS. I run the game on winxp , game version 1.02
 
baby ghoul said:
This is similar to the absence of the kids in Fallout2 UK version. They removed kids just by removing the sprites (frm files) ...

So I guess if you can see that Vic is leveling up and still joins your party, he is probably invisible because the vics sprite cannot be triggered or corrupted, which is almost impossible....
Not exactly. The FRM is not corrupted, he's invisible/disabled. Mrs. Bishop's script (NCLABISH.SSL) calls party_member_hide_all when you follow her to her room, but never clears it when you're done. Somehow you need to make them visible again. The easiest way I can think of is to modify the script of something minor to make the call that reverses this effect.

If I get a chance I'll try to think up something, but I won't get enough spare cycles for a few days.

John
 
Odd. When I transition to another area, all my buddies become visible again. Perhaps there's a bug in the code calling the unhide method. Anyway, I've extended the generic Slot Machine script and dialog to let one hide or unhide your party. The options will unconditionally set or unset the hide flag and each memebers' hidden bit. Effects won't be visible until you leave the dialog.

It can be found here: http://www.projectplasma.com/FOTgee/hiddenparty.zip Instructions are in the README.txt.

John

PS - originally I wanted to modify Sheb (Ms. Kitty's barker), but for whatever reason, it looks like all New Reno scripts are included in patch0000.dat which has priority over data/* Bah.
 
I've had the same problem as a few other people with regard to party members remaining invisible after the night of passion with one of the Bishop girls. I read in an old thread from 2003 [ http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2520 ] what the problem is and how to solve it, but I have no idea how to implement the changes needed or which particular script to edit. If someone can tell me how to edit the slot machine script to make my party visible again I'll give it a shot, or if anyone has a backup of the hiddenparty.zip mentioned in the above link (long since been deleted it seems) please let me know. Thanks a lot.
 
Or (from Per's guide):

There's a bug here that could startle you a bit. When sleeping with Mrs Bishop, your entire party may have disappeared when you return to the first floor. To fix this, sleep with Mrs Bishop again (she'll return downstairs when the game loads the map anew, you can go down to the basement of the casino to make this happen) and they should be back. Or you could just drop them from your party before talking to Mrs Bishop. You may also experience car trunk deprival symptoms in this situation, but it should return once you drive to another map.
 
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