pot vs booze
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Theres this somewhat funny story that happened with a friend of mine. Some years ago, said friend began smoking pot. He had a very honest relationship with his father, and one day he got home at night and decided to tell him he was smoking pot. His father looks at him, tells him to wait a sec, goes into his study, takes a foil package, opens it in front of his son, and in it were two joints. They ended the rest of the night smoking pot together 
However, the next year my friend began smoking cigarettes. When he told his father, the old man almost expelled him out of the house, and was extremely upset he had begun smoking cigarettes because of the dependancy they caused, not forgetting cancerigenous possibilities.
Damn, they don't make parents like those anymore
However, the next year my friend began smoking cigarettes. When he told his father, the old man almost expelled him out of the house, and was extremely upset he had begun smoking cigarettes because of the dependancy they caused, not forgetting cancerigenous possibilities.
Damn, they don't make parents like those anymore
Having grown up in a culture that both understood and used both as a form of recreation, neither is a big issue if people are responsible about it. Yes, I grew up in Alaska, where the weed was grown right next to the catnip.
I've personally never seen anyone become psychotic because of it, though if you want to see someone psycho because of alcohol, you don't have to go far. There's nearly always one stupid jackass at every party that gets loud, obnoxious, and soon starts swinging off of the chandelier when drunk. Whereas with marijuana, you all sit around the hookah with bags of chips or sunflower seeds (or lightly salted popcorn) and a 2 litre of Coke. Get stoned, play some video games, that sort of thing. No danger to anyone, and it really helps those who have problems with the following: nausea, pain, some eye problems, and appetite, to name a few. In fact, the Hulk might have been a totally different story if someone just got the guy baked out of his gourd.
Tommy Chong Voice: "Don't get me angry, man...hee, hee, hee!"
But the big point about pot is that yes, it is a drug. So is alcohol. Both are good in moderation and if you're mature about it. Both are bad if you do stupid things like drive while under the influence or you have some other mental condition that would make you turn into Flippy from Happy Tree Friends.
Unfortunately, the main things keeping Mary J illegal are the stupid ads (where being under the influence of alcohol whilst driving kills far more people, as would being under any drug while driving a ton or so of metal), the hype that stems from sites like freevibe.com, who are pretty much following govt. sponsored "tests", which are often skewed to perpetuate this, and the American cigarette manufacturers, who would really hate to see what they view as a crop that could replace tobacco and are afraid that they couldn't keep up with all of the independent growers.
Really? Alcohol kills brain cells. Marijuana doesn't. Other than that, the statement above is too vague and could mean all sorts of things, including a general state of euphoria. Plus I'd like to see what kind of crop they grabbed to do the tests (researchers who are govt. funded do not grow, but use confiscated). Much of the crap stuff that they manage to get is full of pesticide or other chemicals. If you find green with pesticide on it, you've found one dead grower.
It also doesn't look good to the teens if you lie to them about the effects of marijuana. If you lie to them, they'll tell you to fuck off and do it anyways. The funny thing about some of those ads is that if the teen is smoking enough to get completely spaced out of their mind, then they have some way of affording it and stealing isn't that often done as it doesn't instill the physical dependence that alcohol, cocaine, heroin, and opiates do. Most cities in the US have a far worse problem with meth, cocaine, and crack (and associated crime like theft), so the police are generally more lenient towards pot smokers, even in middle of the city. Hell, I know people who steal for beer money, then buy crap pisswater. The police generally know the problem with that drug isn't so much a problem, and it actually keeps people off of the streets and mellowed out in their home. Yet I really wouldn't count on that.
Many who use pot also smoke cigarettes, and the shit found in American cigarettes is far worse than what is in marijuana (and marijuana often helps your lungs, especially with capacity, as some doctors would sometimes take a patient aside and talk to them about just that for broken ribs or other issues). That's why I smoke either Canadian or British brands though they cost a bit more. I can easily understand that father's sentiment towards cigarettes, as they are often much worse than a joint or a bowl.
I do not advocate marijuana use by underaged people, but if you're in a culture that accepts and understands it without having to deal with capitalist politics getting in the way of common sense, sit back and light up. In fact, that's why a lot of vets go to Alaska, so they can do the motto: "Mellow out in Alaska."
I've personally never seen anyone become psychotic because of it, though if you want to see someone psycho because of alcohol, you don't have to go far. There's nearly always one stupid jackass at every party that gets loud, obnoxious, and soon starts swinging off of the chandelier when drunk. Whereas with marijuana, you all sit around the hookah with bags of chips or sunflower seeds (or lightly salted popcorn) and a 2 litre of Coke. Get stoned, play some video games, that sort of thing. No danger to anyone, and it really helps those who have problems with the following: nausea, pain, some eye problems, and appetite, to name a few. In fact, the Hulk might have been a totally different story if someone just got the guy baked out of his gourd.
Tommy Chong Voice: "Don't get me angry, man...hee, hee, hee!"
But the big point about pot is that yes, it is a drug. So is alcohol. Both are good in moderation and if you're mature about it. Both are bad if you do stupid things like drive while under the influence or you have some other mental condition that would make you turn into Flippy from Happy Tree Friends.
Unfortunately, the main things keeping Mary J illegal are the stupid ads (where being under the influence of alcohol whilst driving kills far more people, as would being under any drug while driving a ton or so of metal), the hype that stems from sites like freevibe.com, who are pretty much following govt. sponsored "tests", which are often skewed to perpetuate this, and the American cigarette manufacturers, who would really hate to see what they view as a crop that could replace tobacco and are afraid that they couldn't keep up with all of the independent growers.
Really? Alcohol kills brain cells. Marijuana doesn't. Other than that, the statement above is too vague and could mean all sorts of things, including a general state of euphoria. Plus I'd like to see what kind of crop they grabbed to do the tests (researchers who are govt. funded do not grow, but use confiscated). Much of the crap stuff that they manage to get is full of pesticide or other chemicals. If you find green with pesticide on it, you've found one dead grower.
It also doesn't look good to the teens if you lie to them about the effects of marijuana. If you lie to them, they'll tell you to fuck off and do it anyways. The funny thing about some of those ads is that if the teen is smoking enough to get completely spaced out of their mind, then they have some way of affording it and stealing isn't that often done as it doesn't instill the physical dependence that alcohol, cocaine, heroin, and opiates do. Most cities in the US have a far worse problem with meth, cocaine, and crack (and associated crime like theft), so the police are generally more lenient towards pot smokers, even in middle of the city. Hell, I know people who steal for beer money, then buy crap pisswater. The police generally know the problem with that drug isn't so much a problem, and it actually keeps people off of the streets and mellowed out in their home. Yet I really wouldn't count on that.
Many who use pot also smoke cigarettes, and the shit found in American cigarettes is far worse than what is in marijuana (and marijuana often helps your lungs, especially with capacity, as some doctors would sometimes take a patient aside and talk to them about just that for broken ribs or other issues). That's why I smoke either Canadian or British brands though they cost a bit more. I can easily understand that father's sentiment towards cigarettes, as they are often much worse than a joint or a bowl.
I do not advocate marijuana use by underaged people, but if you're in a culture that accepts and understands it without having to deal with capitalist politics getting in the way of common sense, sit back and light up. In fact, that's why a lot of vets go to Alaska, so they can do the motto: "Mellow out in Alaska."
I *hardly ever* drink. Alcohol makes me sleepy or moody and gets the fun out of me. I can't hold liquor, then. Anything over 1 glass will make me feel bad so I only drink in rare occasions (such as a glass of champagne to toast New Year and such).
As for pot... Smoked once, dont wanna do it again. Even though the experience was not so bad (I dont know how to describe it in words but it felt weird) , i got so thirsty and anxious after that I am pretty glad the thing is not physically addictive.
As for pot... Smoked once, dont wanna do it again. Even though the experience was not so bad (I dont know how to describe it in words but it felt weird) , i got so thirsty and anxious after that I am pretty glad the thing is not physically addictive.
As I have an extremely strange physique when it comes to alcohol I'd have to go with that. I never have any hangovers, I have puked *once* because of alcohol (that was when I was 14 or something) and I have never gotten a 'snefylla' as we say over here. That meaning becoming pissed, moody or things like that when you're drunk.
As for pot I have smoked it once, and it had zero effect. Might have been a poor excuse for pot or something, I don't know. Might try again some day though.
As for pot I have smoked it once, and it had zero effect. Might have been a poor excuse for pot or something, I don't know. Might try again some day though.
That was then probably due to overuse. Anxiety happens a lot then....
That happens a lot when you smoke it for the frist time. Can take a few times for anything to happen. *shrug*
I like both, but I haven't smoked a joint since last summer. I drink at least one beer every day in winter.
Most of the pot you get in Poland is really bad stuff. Chemical-ridden, hard hitting skunk. When I was 14 I smoked a whole joint of the thing. I was stoned on a really bad trip for about four hours. My girlfriend tried some similar pot a year back and she fainted (literally) after "inhaling" once.
In summer, I get to smoke a lot of pure natural mexican pot, as I go back to mexico once a year to visit my family, and pot is fairly easy to get in the state of Chiapas.
Nevertheless, I sometimes get paranoid and extremely anxious, my heart starts to ache and I start believing that I'm having a heart attack. And while not becoming aggressive, too much noises, childish stupid jokes, and generally, blatantly stupid people get on my nerves very quickly.
On the other hand, on booze, my reactions are much more predictable. I don't get the berserker or the kamikaze perks, and I'm able to drink a heluva lot before puking.
'sides, booze is cheaper.
Most of the pot you get in Poland is really bad stuff. Chemical-ridden, hard hitting skunk. When I was 14 I smoked a whole joint of the thing. I was stoned on a really bad trip for about four hours. My girlfriend tried some similar pot a year back and she fainted (literally) after "inhaling" once.
In summer, I get to smoke a lot of pure natural mexican pot, as I go back to mexico once a year to visit my family, and pot is fairly easy to get in the state of Chiapas.
Nevertheless, I sometimes get paranoid and extremely anxious, my heart starts to ache and I start believing that I'm having a heart attack. And while not becoming aggressive, too much noises, childish stupid jokes, and generally, blatantly stupid people get on my nerves very quickly.
On the other hand, on booze, my reactions are much more predictable. I don't get the berserker or the kamikaze perks, and I'm able to drink a heluva lot before puking.
'sides, booze is cheaper.
Mad Larkin
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Too true
Me 'n my friends were having a generally pleasant evening at the town (Me totally wasted, my friends sober), and a guy who was 20 cm taller and 50kgs heavier than me (I'm a skinny runt) starts screaming "What the fuck are you fuck!" And tackles me on the ground.
After i had kneed him in a sensitive place and headbutted him the idiot starts screaming that he'll sue me and tried to call his friends to beat me up.
Still waiting to be sued and getting my ass kicked
Wooz69 said:
Hehe, my (ex-)girlfriend had the same thing happening to her once. A few years ago, we went to Zealand for a couple of days and one of the first things we did, of course, was go visit a coffe shop. Naturally, I bought the best weed available and rolled a joint. My (ex-)girlfriend started to feel very nauseous and wanted to go outside, which we did. Guess what? She fainted in front of the Aldi! Hehe. Damn funny when I think about it now, but back then I rushed to help of course. I used to be her knight in canvas armour, you know.
Blade runner wrote:
Heh, as a matter of fact, she fainted in a gig a couple of friends set up in my neighbourhood, a bunch of friends were there. Fact is, I did freak out a bit, but I managed to carry her back to safety (my bed). Funny thing though, I was completely drunk and stoned and somehow managed to find my house. I remember laying her down on my bed, going to sleep next to her ( with her babbling in her post-THC paranoia, that she saw the light at the end of the tunnel, and I thought I was going to dieee honeeey ).
I managed to lay down for a few minutes before the drunken/stoned bill came, forcing me to get up lightspeed to go puke into the toilet.
And there was much rejoicing.
Heh, as a matter of fact, she fainted in a gig a couple of friends set up in my neighbourhood, a bunch of friends were there. Fact is, I did freak out a bit, but I managed to carry her back to safety (my bed). Funny thing though, I was completely drunk and stoned and somehow managed to find my house. I remember laying her down on my bed, going to sleep next to her ( with her babbling in her post-THC paranoia, that she saw the light at the end of the tunnel, and I thought I was going to dieee honeeey ).
I managed to lay down for a few minutes before the drunken/stoned bill came, forcing me to get up lightspeed to go puke into the toilet.
And there was much rejoicing.
who needs eather of them? Sobriety is by far better.
Ok, before i get all the "omg you suck hahaha pansy" shit, let me say i was a heavy drinker and drug user, and heres what i remember from it:
A. waking up not knowing what i did the night before
B. same as above, but in places i didnt remember going
C. withdrawls if i didnt use them for long periods of time
D. society frowning on me (they still do, but meh)
Im proud to say that im a year clean of both alcohol and drugs, and honestly, i dont see any reason in doing them in the first place
Ok, before i get all the "omg you suck hahaha pansy" shit, let me say i was a heavy drinker and drug user, and heres what i remember from it:
A. waking up not knowing what i did the night before
B. same as above, but in places i didnt remember going
C. withdrawls if i didnt use them for long periods of time
D. society frowning on me (they still do, but meh)
Im proud to say that im a year clean of both alcohol and drugs, and honestly, i dont see any reason in doing them in the first place
Amen brother. I've been clean of drugs for seven years, and don't regret a second of it. I also haven't had a drink in months.
Gotta quit smoking cigarettes though.
Gotta quit smoking cigarettes though.
8) Dove and Darkpoet, I am glad you guys expressed pretty much why one should not drink too much or do drugs. I am not "square", I have the policy that, if I am going to have fun, I want to remember it
And I happen to like my health.
I know many people who smoke, (such as my father and many of my friends). But I dont smoke. Well I am the athletic type and I love swiming. I can dive and swim under, across a pool that is over 30 m without having to come to the surface to breath untill I cross it. I dont know any smoker who can do it.
And I happen to like my health.
I know many people who smoke, (such as my father and many of my friends). But I dont smoke. Well I am the athletic type and I love swiming. I can dive and swim under, across a pool that is over 30 m without having to come to the surface to breath untill I cross it. I dont know any smoker who can do it.
I probably could. Just to prove a point to someone, I ran two miles with a lit cigarette.
Daemon Spawn
Old Warrior of the Wastes
Erm, since you started talking about the benefits of neither, I thought I'd contribute my two cents in saying I've never tried alcohol, cigarettes, pot...etc.
In fact, I've never taken cold medication, or vitamins, or anything. About the craziest thing I've ever taken was a piece of candy in the middle of some dirt.
I'm the guy at the party that doesn't do anything. I'm actually *known* as the guy that doesn't take the booze or pot.
Meh, whatever. Just thought you'd like to know there are some weird people out there. *who me?*
Edit: Yes, I kinda wanted to get that off my chest.
In fact, I've never taken cold medication, or vitamins, or anything. About the craziest thing I've ever taken was a piece of candy in the middle of some dirt.
I'm the guy at the party that doesn't do anything. I'm actually *known* as the guy that doesn't take the booze or pot.
Meh, whatever. Just thought you'd like to know there are some weird people out there. *who me?*
Edit: Yes, I kinda wanted to get that off my chest.
Yes, some people don't feel the effects of weed their first time smoking. Sometimes not even their fifth time smoking either. Your body has a natural tolerance to the drug before your try it for some reason. Afterwards, that initial tolerance is gone, but you can rebuild up a tolerance from steady usage.
When I was first experimenting with marijuana, I puked a few times. I have a strong suspicion that it's from mixing it with alcohol though (even with small amounts of both). Now I can freely mix the two and have no problems.
I also fainted a couple of times when I was starting as well. But those episodes are gone.
Now I just get stoned.
When I was first experimenting with marijuana, I puked a few times. I have a strong suspicion that it's from mixing it with alcohol though (even with small amounts of both). Now I can freely mix the two and have no problems.
I also fainted a couple of times when I was starting as well. But those episodes are gone.
Now I just get stoned.