Project announcment: F2: Suomi

[veBu]

I have started my first modding project in F2 which tells about Finland (my home country) after the nuclear war.

Right now I have considered what Finland would be alike after the war. First thing is that did Finland have any vaults? I think they didnt have enough money to build that kinda things, instead EU had its own vault for northern europe in Sweden. Allthough quite a few finnish got the right to live in there so most of the finns build underground tunnels to survive. Pretty primitive compared to the vaults in US.

So almost all the cities on the surfice destroyed and almost everyone is living under the ground. I think that is an idea which I should stick to. Also some of the cities have avoyded the destruction in northern finland so you are not going to spend all your time under the ground.

Language of my mod is going to be english so dont worry about not beeing able to play it. I think Im going to do all the work on my own but voluntary work is always needed.

to be continued...

EDIT20:06//

I need to change loads of things. Like the mutants. I cant put any mutants into F2: Suomi becouse I think the vats belongs only in US.
Ghouls would be really rare and I need to forget stimpacks and jet.
Stimpacks could be really rare but theres not going to be any jet.

Im going add weapons which finnish army uses at the moment and some of our new prototypes.

Let me tell you something about the storyline.

The games begins in underground catacomb near the western coast. Finland also has a western coast . People have started their lives again and they try to build new cities on the surfice although most of the people live under the surfice.
(ok it sounds like fallout2 but I try to get out of it)

Life on the surfice isnt easy. Some of the cities have started to fight from food and water to survive. Something is also happening in Sweden. Guys in the goverment (EU) have decieded to purify this country and start a better one with these new versions of GECK. But the problem is that they think old habitants are not clean enough for this new pure country.

I need to think about the story couple of times before I decide to use it, but I think its going to be something like this.

I would love to hear what you think about this. Is this an idea which should be thrown into garbage or should I start creating this with a full speed?

Sorry about my english. When I start typing this much, it just blows up
to be continued...

EDIT//20:21

Here are the locations I have been planning to do. I start with one loaction and then I start expanding it.[/img]

 

[monsharen]

Vaults placed in sweden, yey! Finally something good came out of the EU

 

[Per]

Finland is less likely to become an arid wasteland than Nevada/California, perhaps. Maybe make random encounter maps full of slightly mutated pines and contaminated lakesides? With molerat animations for giant bloodsucking LEMMINGS.

 

[lisac2k]

...giant bloodsucking LEMMINGS.

Yep. You could eliminate them running toward the lakes. They'll finish there sooner or later anyway!

Anyway... 10 locations for the first modding project? Sirren67, please advise...

 

[veBu]

Finland is less likely to become an arid wasteland than Nevada/California, perhaps.

Not so likely. Finland is really close to russia so I guess some of the warheads could have hit Finland. And nuclear winter makes evry country in the world a wasteland so dont worry about not getting sand in your mouth.

...giant bloodsucking LEMMINGS.

Yep. You could eliminate them running toward the lakes. They'll finish there sooner or later anyway!

OK enough...one lame post of offtopic is enough. And theres no lemmings in finland. If you dont have anything better things to say please dont comment.

Anyway... 10 locations for the first modding project? Sirren67, please advise...

Im going to start with one city and then I will make more of them. I think this will take some time but I like big projects.

 

[lisac2k]

Sorry, couldn't resist... Just haven't heard that word a long time ago, and it makes me... Instable. Back to topic...

 

[Per]

OK enough...one lame post of offtopic is enough. And theres no lemmings in finland.

Suggestions are lame and off topic? Right, good luck with your project.

 

[veBu]

Maybe make random encounter maps full of slightly mutated pines and contaminated lakesides? With molerat animations for giant bloodsucking LEMMINGS.

This isnt a suggestion. You are just making fun of my project. Bloodsucking lemmings...not funny...

 

[Sirren67]

For Lisac2k: you scoundrel I hate Chefs. I am one!!

For veBu: seriously, Per and Lisac2k are right about your mod size.
O.k., I'm assuming you're not a professional programmer, here...
Start with a location mod, one or two maps. Fill them with critters, and I mean SCRIPTS. I'm going to release a 10 maps "demo": it contains some 200 scripts and it isn't ready yet... You'll only get 4/5 levels... The point is: ten locations will require hundreds of scripts. Enlist some help. You could project your mod in order to release it in chapters, something like a location at a time... It will be LONG, but you'll go somewhere. Cheers!

 

[veBu]

I'm going to release a 10 maps

not so likely. Im going to start with one and then im going to expand it . one by one....And I know this isnt going to be ready in 2weeks. I never sayed that Im going to do all what im planning..huah how people get so..(cant find any good words)

Releasing it in chapters is a really good idea. But what do you think about the finland theme?

I would love to hear what you think about this. Is this an idea which should be thrown into garbage or should I start creating this with a full speed?

I guess after the summer I have some pretty good stuff to show.

 

[lisac2k]

Not bad. But what about PIPboy, Vault suit and other USA products, which should be accomodated to Euro/Finish environment? Don't forget, EU never existed in the Fallout universe. For more info, consult the Fallout Bible.

EDIT:

I hate Chefs. I am one!!

Amen to that!

 

[Sirren67]

The point is I really don't know about Finland...
I wouldn't make a mod set in Italy becouse Fo2 setting is based upon american science fiction, and that's usually set in the U.S.
I feel a European setting could be interesting, anyway. Finland's so close to Soviet Union... Work upon the plot and you'll get something interesting. Bye

EDIT
Lisac2k, in Fo1 intro they say that EU (or something similar) crumbles and divides in several nations fighting one with each other. Don't forget about the SOLID U.S. military presence in Europe, too.

 

[veBu]

Not bad. But what about PIPboy, Vault suit and other USA products, which should be accomodated to Euro/Finish environment? Don't forget, EU never existed in the Fallout universe. For more info, consult the Fallout Bible.

Im not going to use any vault suits. as I typed finns lived in catacombs . Pipboy is a tricky one. I really need to think about it. And about EU i think im going to give it some other name. [reading fallout bible]

Finland's so close to Soviet Union... Work upon the plot and you'll get something interesting. Bye

I know I konw and I love the idea of USSR in future

 

[Brother None]

But what about PIPboy, Vault suit and other USA products, which should be accomodated to Euro/Finish environment?

They should?

Why?

McDonalds is the same in Europe as it is in the USA, y'know

Also, the EU indeed does not exist in the Fallout world. the European Commonwealth does/did.

Very little is known about the EC, 'cept that they attacked the Middle East in the 2050's and disbanded in the 2060's.

 

[lisac2k]

Unlike the common burgers and other junk-food, I doubt the PIPboys were exported to other lands. However, it's not confirmed nor denied explicitely, leaving it to designer to decide if he's gonna provide one to our hero or not...

I doubt seriously they'd export vaultsuits. But like the man said - none of them shall be.

 

[Brother None]

Vault Suits per se no, but the material and look would be common enough.

and why not export PipBoys? They're handy dandy commercial products, not military secrets

 

[Agrajag]

Intriguing idea, veBu, to make a fallout mod located in the post war Finland. Maybe Russia invaded Finland during the war? Wouldn't be hard to motivate nuclear bombs falling all over the place then, I reckon... Alternatively, another Finnish winter war could have taken place, perhaps?

A few questions regarding fallout canon does appear though. Do you plan to use the 50's science fiction theme like fallout did? Will you follow the fallout canon, or just improvise? I suppose there's a lot of background history that will have to be made up for this mod anyway...

nuclear winter makes evry country in the world a wasteland so dont worry about not getting sand in your mouth.

I'm not so sure about that. The desert in fallout was there before the war too (the Nevada desert). I don't think Finland, with all those trees would turn into sand just because the earth was encapsulated by some clouds... You could still have wasteland of course, but wasteland != desert and sand. It's just land minus people.

Anyways, good luck to you and your modding project. It's always nice to see fellow fallout modders out there.

 

[veBu]

Unlike the common burgers and other junk-food, I doubt the PIPboys were exported to other lands.

Isnt pip boy a mobilephono kinda thing? I think it could have been exported, so im going to use it. although it would be too difficult to mod a new version of it. i think?

And about the vault suits. Im going to give them for the swedish vault guys but Im going to make models of my own. Ill give them a same pissed of attitude which vault city' s people has.

In far future I might consider to make a european version of the pip boy.

Maybe Russia invaded Finland during the war?

I might include something similiar to slavery. Progressed by the Russians.

A few questions regarding fallout canon does appear though. Do you plan to use the 50's science fiction theme like fallout did?

Well, I really like the 50's and going for a different theme is going to be really hard thing to do. And if people doesnt like my own stuff Its going to be a lot worse. So the 50' s theme is easy and safe . I also have some really cool finnish posters to add.

I'm not so sure about that. The desert in fallout was there before the war too (the Nevada desert). I don't think Finland, with all those trees would turn into sand just because the earth was encapsulated by some clouds... You could still have wasteland of course, but wasteland != desert and sand. It's just land minus people.

hmm perhaps you are right. I would like to add some snow terrain to my mod if I manage to make it good enough.

I will release my version of the swedish vault suit soon, so you can drool at it

//EIDT12:21

i know it looks pretty awful but you get the picture. BTW its not the final version of it. This is made with paint as you can see

 

[Sirren67]

Isnt pip boy a mobilephono kinda thing? I think it could have been exported, so im going to use it. although it would be too difficult to mod a new version of it. i think?

If you want to add/edit/get rid of features, then yes. They are most likely hardcoded and need a good deal of skill/work to be edited. The art is simple frm though. If you have some drawing skills you can edit the interface arts and give the Pipboy a new feel suiting your fancy. Bye.

 

[Skynet]

Good luck with the project. I've tried similar about 2 years ago, but then I lost interest...