Proof that there is a God

Although billions of children do die it should also be noted that billions of children live, hence condemming those alive to your humour of the dead is sentancing them to death, in a way.

Yeah, the jokes about dead babies in garbage cans encouraged others to do the same in D.C. ... actually not, when finding a frozen dead baby cut apart by a compression scoop of the garbage truck prompted the joke

Sorry i dont follow, i dont live in Washington...

afe, in Mexico? Do you have any clue what you're trying to talk about? Also, do you have any clue about Dia De Los Muertos and Dia De Los Angelitos?

No idea what that means but it says something in spanish or portugese i think.

So your arguemnet for children jokes is based on nothing more than your point of view and your point of view from the way of mexicans?
 
He's saying that you shouldn't get your panties in a bunch, because even within the context of their own culture, their deaths will be celebrated.
 
Richoid said:
Although billions of children do die it should also be noted that billions of children live, hence condemming those alive to your humour of the dead is sentancing them to death, in a way.

In a very stupid way, because it doesn't make killing children okay, neither does it endorse or prove that dead children are a good thing.

Sorry i dont follow, i dont live in Washington...

So you're too retarded to read what I wrote, simply because you don't live in Washington D.C.? That sounds about par for your level of idiocy. If the joke didn't come about, and oddly enough children picked it up more than anyone, there probably wouldn't have been so much widespread attention to the problem as a result.

That is the same reason why comedians like Jon Stewart mock the President, not just for laughs, but to also educate people about what fucked up things are going on and to make it memorable. To stick with you even long after you've stopped laughing to the joke.

This has been a core aspect of comedy. If you don't like it, the joke's on you.

No idea what that means but it says something in spanish or portugese i think.

So you're too fucking stupid to look things up and educate yourself about them? Again, I'm not surprised that you do this, when your entire presence on this forum has been to blather on about shit you really have no clue about, don't care to edcuate yourself about, and hence why you are constantly ridiculed here.

So your arguemnet for children jokes is based on nothing more than your point of view and your point of view from the way of mexicans?

No, I'm saying, again for your personal benefit, that joking about what happens in life is natural, there's humor in everything in life given the circumstances, and it does allow people to discuss the topic without...

You know what? I just said that and explained myself. Since you're too stupid to understand it, and don't care to read, taste the ban.
 
Well God existing comes down to belief. No amount of proof or disproving will change the minds of most. It is a matter of faith. Personnally I believe in an afterlife. No not decked halls of fighting or naked virgins, but a place where the sum of your life is played for you or against you.

And what do you have to lose if you believe in a Higher being? I mean if you do believe and there is no God, sure you will be disappointed... but what if you didn't believe and there was a God? Then I supposed your fucked.

On another note, if God is all knowing, he will understand the course of history and some of the hard choices.

It is easy to pass the buck, to say why dear god, but sometimes we have to bite the bullet for our choices, for in the end, you can't say someone made you do it. You had a choice, even though to devate would probably mean the end of you.
 
Roshambo said:
you'll never get out alive.
Out of what, life, so what's the purpose. And in the future, our descendants might become immortal, but then again they might not be able to breed, but that's what happens when you play with FEvirons or with cheerful good aliens, that have an evil plan to take over the galaxy.

Specialist said:
There is more proof of God. Bananas were specially made to be held in your hand.
What a genius that man is, he is just proving that an evolution theory is correct. And that the seeds that the banana holds, like to be fertilized by ape excrement.

Carib FMJ said:
And what do you have to lose if you believe in a Higher being?
My money, my brothers, my wife, my children, my happiness, and did I mention, my money for my children; which is my purpose in life.
 
Carib FMJ said:
And what do you have to lose if you believe in a Higher being? I mean if you do believe and there is no God, sure you will be disappointed...
actually, you won't, since you'll never know.
Carib FMJ said:
but what if you didn't believe and there was a God? Then I supposed your fucked.
whats the worst that can happen? i've led a good life by my own standards.

besides all the fun guys would be burnin' anyway... i'd rather join the BBQ.
Carib FMJ said:
On another note, if God is all knowing, he will understand the course of history and some of the hard choices.
well thats where the fun starts: if god is allpowerful and all knowing, the only thing left for him to do which could present an interesting challenge, is commit suicide.
 
Roshambo said:
Sina said:
Montez seems like the only one that got what i was trying to say.
Lifted me up a bit there, guy. Cheers...

Ah, argument by appeal. Sorry, what he posted had really little to do with your "Well i hope that anyone here that thinks its funny gets his kids killed one day by some similar accident, because only then you would know how funny it really is." only to post that if someone had to die, it might as well be spectacular than a poor death.

No i just liked what he answered so i thought to let him know.
I take it to be a reaction to my post that showed that he pays attention to the other side of this story not just that ironic one.
Or blatantly stupid one like this:
Jebus said:
(N.B. Mexicans can barely be considered human)

And my views were similar in the past so that was it really.



However badly i explained my point of view for the Roshambo and that other guy...i just wanted to, you know, throw a cog in that inflated pompous "im ironic - i know it" attitude and smirking about five dead kids.
If nothing else if you smirk about someone other you can expect some pain in return, can you?
Be fair. At least something that makes you angry, not self satisfied and smug and all that.

Moron. There's no "smugness" in it, just irony, which I have pointed out since the second post in this thread. You should really lay off the cracks about intelligence if you're going to be too dense to understand irony. This one had multiple levels of irony if you'll pardon that one is a simple pun. The other form of irony was far better.

You could have read that "Im ironic-i know it" part, moron.


And Roshambo...did you really had a kid that was killed?
I am sorry...i don't appreciate the irony of that.

No, not a child of my own, but I have seen people die and had more than a few friends die, you begin to understand it's part of life, and you'll never get out alive.[/quote]

How about if i came strolling along when one of your friends died, and suppose i leaned over to you standing there and said something witty and oh so ironic then chuckled. Would you join the chuckle and strike the same poses you strike now, or would you just hit me so hard in the face that i would need plastic surgery later on? I know what would i do....ar we that different?


So I laugh at something natural, and according to the Christian faith, something I shouldn't be mourning in the first place. Know the religion first before you try to tell me how I should honor those within it. If I laugh along with God and His intents, then I am honoring the teachings of Him and His Son, and by that merit, His religion. In fact, through theological disection, it could almost be termed a snub on God if I treated His design as a tragedy, if I didn't personally know those He took. According to the scripture, if they lived faithfully and morally, then they are destined for Heaven.

I was born and im still living in a country thats catholic mostly so it has been around me all my life.
That is why i think this reasoning above false and stupid, and thats why i am not a believer in the church.
Because thats all thats left of christianity, just church, just a system. And its even worse that it is based on such illogical foundations.
Not to say ridiculous.
Well why not?
Its ridiculous.


Personal tragedy is a given, but that isn't the point of this topic and never has until you brought it in through the typical bleeding heart troll.

Well im sorry to disturb your gentle soul by bringing in the "personal tragedy" of this into this radiant topic.

Then do yourself a favor and don't bother returning to this topic again - as you claimed to have been before (yet as with most trolls you haven't been able to leave this topic), because if reality and the world have your ass in a chafe, nobody else here really has the patience to listen to this shit as you will soon be going through puberty.


Kid, I'm a master debater. If you're not even going to try, don't bother, yet you are the one in my face, and you have yet to really explain yourself except to whine that people shouldn't find humor in death.


This is master debating is it? Saying im a troll because i dare to post an answer? And im bothering to answer invented accusations, not something i actually said or thought...

And puberty eh? Oh i wish :) , maybe i could find that irony again somewhere there.

And the kid? Sure, you know it all baby, thats what master debaters do, they don't have to think, just blurt out anything that crosses their minds and its automatically correct.

And, you really have to wonder about God's sense of humor if He's going to kill children praying to Him. That, to me, doesn't seem quite right, but I'm not necessarily shoving it down a Christian fundie's throat.

-snip-
And, anyone who doesn't understand the irony of God killing someone as they were praying to him either doesn't understand the Judeo-Christian religion or IS a pseudo-Christian, or has some emotional connection to said person. Without any of that, it's just foolish crying.

There is no God like that "up there", there is nobody with that sense of humor so death of those kids is a sad thing, doubly so because of it.


you're trying to chastize me on my own forums,

No, you may take it like that if you cannot help yourself, but that was not my intention.
And even if these are your forums that does not mean i have to agree with everything you say, or that i can't have a private view on things thats different from yours and even write like that.
I thought that goes without saying, until i respect the general rules and well, i meant to say common sense, but thats relative here.

So, what religion are you, to allow you to be so wholly clueless of the Christian faith to dwell in your ignorance? What right gives your little shut-in experience with the world the right to devoid anyone else from recognizing that someone died in a pretty ironic way, one that is highly amusing when you take the teachings of the Christian faith, which these people were in middle of active practice? What makes you think you have the right to come along and tell people that "um....someone died, think of their family, I hope it happens to you, don't laugh!"?

What religion am i would be...difficulty to explain, ...
I don't belong to any officially organized movement, and i tend to prefer knowing to believing... mostly because i was exposed to catholic christianity almost all my life.
Luckily my father, long dead now, didn't hold to old ways much so he left me to choose for myself...
My mother started praying and going to church at the end of her life...she probably died hoping that it will save her, maybe just to let her live a little longer so she could see me one last time.
But i was away, sailing on a cargo ship, somewhere on the route to Baltic sea and Scandinavia... and i didn't get to see her. Just like in some bad joke, or a bad movie.

Many years i have spent laughing to the Gods face, laughing to the insanity of it all, laughing to myself never knowing how right i was to laugh at myself truly... how stupid and wastefully it truly all was.
And there was much much more to laugh about than just those two things mentioned above.

Thats a part of this fucking bleeding heart.

What i said, that : "i hope it happens to you so that then you could see how funny it really is" , not how you "ironically" interpret it Roshambo.
That was said so that its a jab, something that hopefully pricks.

Because as always in debates like this or similar to this one, it all comes down to the personal view of things of each individual.
Your personal outlook on the world and the great questions, and facts of life, colors what you think, in fact, rules what you think, who you are as an individual. And therefore what you post here, any of us, is dependant on it directly.

And if there is here a few i can still prick with it, then im happier a little.


Im pretty sure that if i came up to Montez and tried to say something witty, funny, ironic, or laughable about his friend death, that he would cut my head clean off before i could finish.
And i like that.

And i would rather see you take that option than chuckling with me.

Maybe if you see that someone is hurt badly by another ones death, maybe, and carefully, you can invent something silly to lighten the burden, something funny from the past, but not at that moment of black. And thats something totaly different than this topic.


There is of course that difference when it happens to you directly and when you hear about something like this happening in a distant country.
And if you are going to see just one side of it, you might as well look at that other.

With that difference that human beings are unable to fully appreciate the reality of something unless it happened directly to them.

And if you really want to artificially discard one side and just use the other distorted, well be my guests.
 
Why do people even try, anymore? I mean, really. Give it up dude. You've got 150+ posts, you should know better.
 
Sina said:
No i just liked what he answered so i thought to let him know.

In a reply directed to me, when you had already replied to him pointing out that he would prefer that people go in a memorable way - which means people will laugh, make jokes about, and probably put in the Darwin Awards. Which goes contrary to your continued whining directed at me, and mirrors what I essentially have said that it all depends on how close you are to said victims, otherwise there was humor to be found.

So I have to call Bullshit, I'm sorry I'm not as stupid as you'd like to believe.

Also, for the future, cut out the annoying ellipses...every....other....fucking.....word. It reads like bad FurryMUCK cybering, which I have had the misfortune to read, damn my curiosity of the dreck of the Internet, and it makes whatever point you might have had look incredibly stupid through typing out your mental stutters.

I take it to be a reaction to my post that showed that he pays attention to the other side of this story not just that ironic one.

Every story has someone mourning them, it's called "psychological connection", which I have explained about three times so far for your stupid, clueless ass. As you could probably tell from Richoid if you weren't so hopelessly stupid, I don't care to repeat myself if you're not going to bother keeping up your part of the conversation. Given that you seem to ignore that only people who have an emotional attachment should ffeel mourning, or within their own religion and culture their deaths wouldn't really be mourned, I might have to do the same for you.

Terminal stupidity or trolling, take your pick for which you'll be banned for.

Or blatantly stupid one like this:
Jebus said:
(N.B. Mexicans can barely be considered human)

And my views were similar in the past so that was it really.

I can only take it he means North Border Mexicans.

In which case, I have to agree with Jebus, when the N.B. Mexican common dream is to invade another country to have an anchor baby, which is even more tragic and senseless than a few faithful children being ironically killed.

However badly i explained my point of view for the Roshambo and that other guy...i just wanted to, you know, throw a cog in that inflated pompous "im ironic - i know it" attitude and smirking about five dead kids.
If nothing else if you smirk about someone other you can expect some pain in return, can you?
Be fair. At least something that makes you angry, not self satisfied and smug and all that.

Moron. There's no "smugness" in it, just irony, which I have pointed out since the second post in this thread. You should really lay off the cracks about intelligence if you're going to be too dense to understand irony. This one had multiple levels of irony if you'll pardon that one is a simple pun. The other form of irony was far better.

You could have read that "Im ironic-i know it" part, moron.

I did, and I'll repeat again for your benefit, there was no smugness in it, just further irony built upon further levels. You know, part of "adds an element of humor and the mysterious, instead of the completely "negative" feelings that most deaths bring", in which I was using theological ironies to ponder God and His humor in this situation.

Sounds like you didn't fully read what Montez wrote, either, which makes your argument by appeal even more fucking hilariously inbred.

How about if i came strolling along when one of your friends died, and suppose i leaned over to you standing there and said something witty and oh so ironic then chuckled. Would you join the chuckle and strike the same poses you strike now, or would you just hit me so hard in the face that i would need plastic surgery later on? I know what would i do....ar we that different?

Listen, shithead, I'm not going up to the families of the dead to do that, so you can cut your hypeerbolic trolling or I will cut it for you.

Again, degrees of psychological attachment, and I'm not going to explain that again for your stupid bleeding heart.

Im pretty sure that if i came up to Montez and tried to say something witty, funny, ironic, or laughable about his friend death, that he would cut my head clean off before i could finish.
And i like that.

And i would rather see you take that option than chuckling with me.

What kind of a moron are you to equate a couple of notations of amusing irony from afar that were inspired by these deaths, which is what Montez said in his post you admire yet seem to be so entirely incapable of understanding, to someone walking up to another person and being a crass fool?

That is why I consider you to be an idiot. You're trying to quantify both the same, when you previously have acknowledged the degrees of separation, as part of your reasoning to spew your hyperbolic bullshit at others. I think I already caught you before on that, so really, the only person you're trying to fool is yourself into believing your own little reality.

I was born and im still living in a country thats catholic mostly so it has been around me all my life.
That is why i think this reasoning above false and stupid, and thats why i am not a believer in the church.
Because thats all thats left of christianity, just church, just a system. And its even worse that it is based on such illogical foundations.
Not to say ridiculous.
Well why not?
Its ridiculous.

Now I know you're a real idiot without much clue of your own religion. Catholicism is perhaps the most fucked up altar boy-hungry of the Christian faiths, and they mourn their own religion as a rule instead of worshipping as the scriptures say.


Well im sorry to disturb your gentle soul by bringing in the "personal tragedy" of this into this radiant topic.

OMG!! People died! They have loved ones! Someone is crying about it and so should everyone else.

Again, start weeping, bitch.

This is master debating is it? Saying im a troll because i dare to post an answer? And im bothering to answer invented accusations, not something i actually said or thought...

No, you're a troll because you completely ignore what is written to blather more tear-jerking bullshit. For instance, you give the example of mocking the death of someone I personally knew. Did I do that to the loved ones of these children? No. You are equating an observation of irony from a distance with a laughable example of outright personal cruelty to those who are heavily psychologically connected to the deceased.

So your bullshit is without merit, without basis, and soon to be without presence.

I'll repeat myself again for your benefit:

As you mentioned with that movie, you, yourself, fell prey to the same quantification, that Jews dying was distant enough for you to find it funny. Yet you try to chastize people for doing the same thing.

THAT is hypocrisy, or as you wanted to claim, trolling.

And puberty eh? Oh i wish :) , maybe i could find that irony again somewhere there.

Please don't wait on puberty for our sake.

And the kid? Sure, you know it all baby, thats what master debaters do, they don't have to think, just blurt out anything that crosses their minds and its automatically correct.

Yeah, like stuff about "Oh, someone's mourning, so it's not funny at all!" when over 150k people die per day, >50k of them children, which is a natural occurrance, you just act as a backseat conscience to whine and snivel without any regards to anything anyone else said and again used argument by appeal. Humor can be found in everything natural.

There is no God like that "up there", there is nobody with that sense of humor so death of those kids is a sad thing, doubly so because of it.

Yeah, this is the same God that fucked over Job's life, tested a father's faith by telling him to kill his son, and did many more fucked up things.

I also find it further amusing that like most pseudo-Christian Catholics, you also try to presume to say what God is and isn't like.

Learn your own faith, or the lack thereof, before you try to chastise me about it, fuckwit.


No, you may take it like that if you cannot help yourself, but that was not my intention.
And even if these are your forums that does not mean i have to agree with everything you say, or that i can't have a private view on things thats different from yours and even write like that.
I thought that goes without saying, until i respect the general rules and well, i meant to say common sense, but thats relative here.

If you're just going to post the same whining "children died, don't laugh!" bullshit without bothering to see anyone else's point of view with the "I hope it happens to you", "I wish I could come strolling along as one of your friends died" garbage that makes it clear you're trolling. Yes, I'm aware of the situation, but your further argument by hyperbole on top of your argument by appeal is clearly marking you to be a troll.

*snip useless sobbing life's story*

What i said, that : "i hope it happens to you so that then you could see how funny it really is" , not how you "ironically" interpret it Roshambo.
That was said so that its a jab, something that hopefully pricks.

Which, as I've said now for the third time for your benefit, retard, that I have been in such a position, and I understand that someone is mourning. However, if you're mourning when you have no connection to said person, then you're simply just a fucking bleeding heart idiot who is taking the sob story to an extreme. Yes, I get that it was sad for their loved ones, and it wouldn't be funny if someone personally went up to them and made a joke. I have told you that multiple times already, and the fact that you STILL persist after I fully explained it and warned you doesn't make me change my mind about banning you.

But they're Mexican, so the likelihood of them owning a computer is extremely remote. :D Plus, the Darwin Awards have a good collection of comments on the stories, so all the loved ones of Darwin Award winners can go and see all the hilarious comments on top of the stories of their loved ones' deaths. Dumbfucks like you tried to whine to them, then were explained the facts of life. Some total morons like you had to be banned for their own good, kind of like some of the more insipid Creationists.

Because as always in debates like this or similar to this one, it all comes down to the personal view of things of each individual.
Your personal outlook on the world and the great questions, and facts of life, colors what you think, in fact, rules what you think, who you are as an individual. And therefore what you post here, any of us, is dependant on it directly.

So why then, after I pointed out that I fully understand their grief and suffering, do you persist in saying that I have no right to make light of their deaths, by using hyperbole and "I wish it happens to you"?

I had already said I understand your point of view, despite it being a very foolish one, and yet you're still trying to force your beliefs upon me with more hyperbolic trolling.

And if there is here a few i can still prick with it, then im happier a little.

Unfortunately, you'll find that I can be a far bigger prick.

*snip more whining and argument by appeal*

There is of course that difference when it happens to you directly and when you hear about something like this happening in a distant country.
And if you are going to see just one side of it, you might as well look at that other.

I already told you what separates who should and shouldn't be mourning, in a psychological and sociological standpoint. That you're too stupid to understand what I wrote is not my problem, as is thinking "Dia De Los Muertos" is possibly Portugese when we're discussing Mexico makes Richoid a total moron. "Dia De Los Angelitos" should have been a bigger clue, since there's a city named similar in a heavily Mexican area.

With that difference that human beings are unable to fully appreciate the reality of something unless it happened directly to them.

I had already said I am fully aware of this, it's called "degrees of separation", "psychological connections/attachment", etc. I really tire of having to find more terms that you might be familiar with, and keep trying to figure out how to further dumb it down so you can understand the explanation, but instead you're wholly discarding my recognition of that in your continued trolling spree. So I'll wholly discard you from these forums.

And if you really want to artificially discard one side and just use the other distorted, well be my guests.

Since you're not likely to fully read what I wrote, again for about the third time, and still persist in trying to preach at me, you can take a vacation from these forums until you learn how to read.
 
Roshambo said:
Jebus said:
(N.B. Mexicans can barely be considered human)
I can only take it he means North Border Mexicans.

In which case, I have to agree with Jebus, when the N.B. Mexican common dream is to invade another country to have an anchor baby, which is even more tragic and senseless than a few faithful children being ironically killed.
i read it as Nota Bene:

no·ta be·ne
Abbr. NB
Used to direct attention to something particularly important.


could be wrong ofc
 
SuAside said:
i read it as Nota Bene:

no·ta be·ne
Abbr. NB
Used to direct attention to something particularly important.


could be wrong ofc

That could be a possibility, true. And really, there isn't anybody of much "importance"* left there in Mexico. Most of anyone of importance had already left the country as an inspiration for others. :D

* - I must specifically note, in a media or social consideration; culturally there are still many who keep to good traditions and know how to live, rather than give a shady forecase of what certain urban parts of the US might be like in a few decades.

And, not exactly my words, Carlos Mencia again inspired them. I can't take full credit.
 
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