Recap over E3 and past info

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xdarkyrex

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How does everyone feel about the entire amalgamation of everything we've received so far, with the E3 stuff dying down?







my answer-

Personally, this game keeps wavering between mediocre and awesome for me.

At this moment though, I am very excited for it, since I, on a personal level, don't care about its ctrpg roots and only care if the game is absolutely amazing to me. So far this game looks like it will be fantastic. top-down perspective was never important to me, I'm a versatile gamer who likes innovation and flexibility, even if some of you think its blasphemy.






Now your turns :D
(try to state your own opinion instead of flaming mine ;) )
 
Too much hype and uniform information makes me think it's all untrue.

Nothing is that perfect, except a lie.

The. Perfect. Lie.

And that's what this is. My trust in the info so far? Zero. Info out this early on Oblivion turned out to be not in the game for an amalgamation of reasons too, no doubt that'll happen again.
 
Brother None said:
Too much hype and uniform information makes me think it's all untrue.

Nothing is that perfect, except a lie.

The. Perfect. Lie.

And that's what this is. My trust in the info so far? Zero. Info out this early on Oblivion turned out to be not in the game for an amalgamation of reasons too, no doubt that'll happen again.
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I hope they don't do that a second time.
One time is understandable, they made a mistake, but if they do that again, I'm gonna stop listening to them. I'll give them one freebie when it comes to PR and a chance to learn from their mistakes.
 
Well it feels to me that everything that came out of anyone's mouth was just the same thing worded differently.
It's at that point where they are gonna cram as much worthless crap down your throat just so you have enough room to breathe to still pay your $60 and play it.
I place very little merit or credit to what anyone has had to say.
If you're force fed horse shit and they call it cherry pie. It's still horseshit.
I am not gonna lie. Yes. I will play Fallout.
Will it be a good game? Maybe. A good RPG? No. Fallout? No, not in my eyes.
 
I'm interested in it.

There are a bunch of little things that sour me on it. But, there are things that I like, too.

I went from leaning towards only buying it when I can find it in a bargain bin, to MAYBE buying it when it comes out, depending on the reviews.

Even if it doesn't feel entirely like Fallout, it might still be a fun game. So, I'm open to it. I'd be more open if Bethesda were to make some changes - go with plasma rocket launchers instead of the Fatman, cut out the cars that explode (generally kill close quarters nuke detonations all together), keep robots consistent with the first two games. But, I am open to it, even now.
 
That's fucking pathetic, they managed to fuck up the Fallout gameplay, Fallout setting and Fallout intro :clap: .

That's what happens when people less talented than original creators hijack a franchise.

Obviously, I won't buy it.
 
I find most of it to be an insult to intelligence.

I will try to find a way to get it without paying too much for it, but only because I'm a moderator of a fan forum. If I was not, I'd probably boycott it.
 
Hello all,

Personally I find this all very disappointing, yet another good thing from my memories that has to be 'changed' in order to appeal to the larger masses.

Was Fallout perhaps in the past compared to Diablo because of its appearance, now it is actually 'competing' with Gears of War, and that is just plain wrong.
People can write as much excuses as they want for these changes but if a hard CRPG is being compared with the current hyped shooter, you would expect that it would raise some questions.

I am a fan and I have sticked to it all these years since Fallout 2, I purchased Fallout Tactics, and * gack * I even played FOPOS, so shouldn't a new Fallout appeal to a fan like me first and foremost?

The whole "Fallout has to evolve with the times" and "You are a disgruntled old fan who can't adapt" argument is not really valid, Fallout 3 is already basically a very different game, it only uses elements of Fallout as Bethesda found it easier than make these up themselves.

Loads of people these days that say "We love Fallout for its atmosphere and not necessarily its gameplay. Fallout 3 is a logical development", well to say it bluntly, that is bullshit.
What you all make clear is that you want a Post Apocalypse game with some fifties influences perhaps (but mostly PA), you don't really need that to be Fallout, and neither do the thousands of new 'fans'.

Let the damn series rest peacefully, and not constantly being reanimated 'Frankenstein' style, made up of different 'body' parts.
 
To me it feels somehow as if they took a big load of horse dung mixed it with addictive making drugs, sugar and then springled it with gold-dust.
So that they were able to tell the game journalists, after taking them out to meal, drinks, womens *cough cough* and so on:
"Oh look we got this sweet tasty glittering dessert for you! Come and have some!". Whereafter the gaming journalists got addicted and started writting:
"Man we got the sweetest dessert ever! It looked at if heaven opened and we got some dessert from there! I, and the other, can't wait to get just another one!".

Okay, a bit harsh, letting all the polemic and ugly metaphor away i would say:
They concentrated to much on a wider audience or new gameplay (FirstPerson > ISO; Realtime > Turn-based), and therefore missed some parts of story and humor and so on.
After recognizing that 'a lot people' disliked it, they tried to cover this up, by telling seemingly lies about, how you could still have parts of the old gameplay, and that they couldn't have done it in another way. Backing this up, by buying portions of game-magazines, knowing that other might jump aboard.

But because all game-magazines seems to have jumped aboard, now i won't even believe parts that might be actually true.

So its looked as if someone watered down my good old sweet european wine, because some other people won't know the differences. But i taste it and therefore i feel somehow betrayed.
(If you dislike wine, please insert scotch instead of wine ;) ).
 
I was anticipating Fallout 3, but every new piece of information I've seen from toilet drinking to taking inspiration from Gears of War to exploding nukular cars and nukular catapults to full voice acting has put me off.
My heart truly sank when I saw the GI screens for the first time and saw.. Oblivion.. with guns.

Unless some drastic changes are made, I won't buy it. And I know Beth won't change anything. Ironically, if Bethesda had made their own PA game and not called it Fallout I probably would buy it, nukular catapults and all. But no, I won't support a bunch of arrogant tossers who seek to remake Fallout in their own image. Well here's a hint, guys. Fallout is Fallout! What you have will always be a derivative.
 
As much as it looks blasphemous to the Fallout spirit... I'm still totally stoked on it and will probably get it anyway.....

Someone better #(*$# this shit.
 
Hmmm... I will wait a month after the game is released. The price should drop, and all the reviews will be out, even some demos as well.

As for the game play, I really hope they left the old style of FO play as at least an option.

Graphics, look interesting, and if there are destructible AND interactive environments. I'm sold on the environment.

When it comes to game play, i can't make any real choices, as, if it's not balanced for the FPP, like the old style FO (Your S.P.E.C.I.A.L. Choices have benefits and consequences), then i'm leaning away from it.
The more *ahem* immersion there is in the game the better. I don't want a FPS, i want a FPP.

The voice actors, it seems, they have spent a pretty bit on. So they should be good, and the fact that your relatives have the same "genetic" structure, adds a whole new depth to the game. Just gotta make sure the actors are reading the script, and not doing some sort of monotone voice over. Then i'll be sold on that.

Weapons... Well they look pretty cool, but Beth needs to remember the metaphorical meanings that FO instilled in the word "Nukes."

Exploding cars? They should go far into explaining it. Enriched gas mix, or "booby trapped," may due. But just having them with a couple mini booms "gas in the cooling motors" and some leakage of rad gas, would be realistic, but a little "meh" inducing.

And as for the location of the game (DC), i sincerely hope they do not make the game overly political, or have to many politician jokes
I don't care how funny, but you run the gambit of offending one(or both), political parties and all of their constituents. So that'd be a foul deal.

All in all, i'd say "Meh" and the game will be, as it will be. My 'hopeful thinking' is that if the Beth people read the NMA forums, they may grok some good ideas and implement them into their game. I know, I know, hopeful thinking, but i'd like to still think it.
 
Did I seriously just see GROK on a forum?

Anyways. Fuck Fallout 3...I'm sorry, but it's just dissapointment after letdown after idiots ruining a great old game.

Monty Python humor, fucking "nukular pewpew k3wl!!! ecksploshuns," generic ghouls and mutants, fucked up "Art Deco" shit, a combat system designed for monkeys, house buying, anti-child killing, eye and groin shot removal, shallow and pathetic conversations.

What more can Bethesda fuck up? Honestly, from here till release, the only reason I'm following this game is to see just how stupid the developers are.

A side note, I don't mind first person or real time. It's just that Beth has shown us they have no idea how to incorporate either appropriately in a Fallout universe.
 
Personally, I don't know. I have to be rather choosy these days, and can't pre-order the 'latest thing' as often as I used to (and after MoO3 and LotR3, I'm wary about pre-ordering anything). Fallout 3? Or Warhammer: Age of Reckoning? I'm leaning to WAR, to be quite honest.

Don't get me wrong, I would still like to, one day, pick up FO3... but it'll probably be in a used white box version for $10.

*However*, that being said, my decision is rather easily swayed... and if that "glimmer of hope" I've been looking for is to be seen here and at DAC, I'd most likely change my mind.
 
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