Relax?!

[SimpleMinded]

Another Bethesda dev speaks on the Elder Scrolls forums and here's what he said:<blockquote>Actually the press release was announcing that Bethesda had secured the rights to create Fallout 3 and subsequent sequels. The press release does not announce the game nor any specifics about it -- it's a business announcement. And it had to be made, because it is important and affects more than one company.

This information is all brand-new. It's something that only became known to many of us at Bethesda a couple weeks ago, and only became official last week. We have also been very busy working on non-Fallout related projects. Any thought that has gone into what a Fallout 3 developed by Bethesda Softworks is minimal at best, and it is going to be quite some time before you hear anything else about it, because quite frankly we haven't even had a CHANCE to think much about what we're going to do with this new franchise.

Anything that's said about the game now -- features, game systems, camera style, gameplay style, platforms, etc. -- is 100% speculation. NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. So have patience. As soon as we know more and are prepared to make a detailed unveiling, we will let you know. But don't be surprised if that day is a ways off.</blockquote>Right, still... LISTEN TO US!
Link: Forum thread

hah, I think they're only beginning to realize how vocal we can be. And to extarbags, you really need to chill out. While I can't say the same for myself, the guys on this site KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. They didn't create this site and keep it up since the beginning of Fallout just to live in ignorance. Know your enemy before you pick a fight.

 

[extarbags]

Another Bethesda dev speaks on the Elder Scrolls forums and here's what he said:<blockquote>Actually the press release was announcing that Bethesda had secured the rights to create Fallout 3 and subsequent sequels. The press release does not announce the game nor any specifics about it -- it's a business announcement. And it had to be made, because it is important and affects more than one company.

This information is all brand-new. It's something that only became known to many of us at Bethesda a couple weeks ago, and only became official last week. We have also been very busy working on non-Fallout related projects. Any thought that has gone into what a Fallout 3 developed by Bethesda Softworks is minimal at best, and it is going to be quite some time before you hear anything else about it, because quite frankly we haven't even had a CHANCE to think much about what we're going to do with this new franchise.

Anything that's said about the game now -- features, game systems, camera style, gameplay style, platforms, etc. -- is 100% speculation. NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. So have patience. As soon as we know more and are prepared to make a detailed unveiling, we will let you know. But don't be surprised if that day is a ways off.</blockquote>Right, still... LISTEN TO US!
Link: Forum thread

hah, I think they're only beginning to realize how vocal we can be. And to extarbags, you really need to chill out. While I can't say the same for myself, the guys on this site KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. They didn't create this site and keep it up since the beginning of Fallout just to live in ignorance. Know your enemy before you pick a fight.

What? They've run a Fallout site for a few years, therefore they know what they're talking about when it comes to Bethesda's plans for the license? Huh?

 

[Sovz]

What? They've run a Fallout site for a few years, therefore they know what they're talking about when it comes to Bethesda's plans for the license? Huh?

No one knows for sure, but you can get a rough idea on how they are thinking to use it.

 

[Odin]

Talk about baiting, listen extarbags I understand what your trying to do but you're going about this all wrong. WE KNOW that that statement doesn't exactly mean that the game will be FP, but it doesn't sound like they aim to do something other than it. Read the statement, he clearly says:

but it wouldn't be a leap of faith to say that we plan to use technologies in development otherwise. You could make some fairly safe leaps of faith that it would be similar in style. We're not going to go away from what it is that we do best.

And what do they do best ?? Please do tell me..

 

[NERDZ]

I don't know what would make you more pissed:

-if bethesda really screwed up FO3 (that could come around 2007 or never or maybe "when it's done" and then cancelled in 2010, which all of you would angrily but steadily wait while incessantly complaining it's not fallout anymore but kkeping on complaining)

-if bethesda actually made a sequel that would actually surpass the quality of the original games(even tough it's unlikely).

by the way, why don't you take you fallout fundamentalist religion even further? you could threaten to land a plane on bethesda's office if they don't make a isometric 2d, turn based with S.P.E.C.I.A.L.F? (F standing for fanboyism), since you know, the game is about to hit the shelves isn't it?

i noticed that even tough i don't like this fallout 3 situation a bit i enjoy your suffering for such a hopeless yet insignificant cause

 

[extarbags]

Talk about baiting, listen extarbags I understand what your trying to do but you're going about this all wrong. WE KNOW that that statement doesn't exactly mean that the game will be FP, but it doesn't sound like they aim to do something other than it. Read the statement, he clearly says:

but it wouldn't be a leap of faith to say that we plan to use technologies in development otherwise. You could make some fairly safe leaps of faith that it would be similar in style. We're not going to go away from what it is that we do best.

And what do they do best ?? Please do tell me..

Make large-scale, open-ended RPG's?

 

[Miles]

with huge empty worlds and little story/npc interaction/strategy/twitch game combat. Indeed they do, and before you complain. I have played and beaten morrowind and its expansions and a few other games of theirs, just to see what they where like.

 

[Odin]

S.P.E.C.I.A.L.F? (F standing for fanboyism), since you know, the game is about to hit the shelves isn't it?

You know what fanboyism is right ? Had you bothered to look you would have seen that we aren't fanboys, we're the ones that speak up.. If a dev tells me he wants to do a shitty idea, I'll call it shit....

 

[Odin]

Make large-scale, open-ended RPG's?

Which usually are FP games eh...now stop this..

 

[extarbags]

S.P.E.C.I.A.L.F? (F standing for fanboyism), since you know, the game is about to hit the shelves isn't it?

You know what fanboyism is right ? Had you bothered to look you would have seen that we aren't fanboys, we're the ones that speak up.. If a dev tells me he wants to do a shitty idea, I'll call it shit....

Funniest thing I've read all day.

And that's not what happened here, guy. What happened here is, a developer said "We're going to make a game," to which you replied "THAT'S SHIT! FPS'S ARE STUPID AND CONSOLE GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!"

 

[extarbags]

Make large-scale, open-ended RPG's?

Which usually are FP games eh...now stop this..

Yeah, cause there's just no way to make a game that has a different camera angle from a game you've made in the past. No sir, that's just out of the question.

Christ, I don't know whether to laugh at you or weep for humanity.

 

[Brother None]

Oh, sorry, but I don't remember you being in charge of Bethesda, or otherwise entitled to any answers. Also, you seriously don't think that it's ridiculous to demand that they turn the license over to a different company because they don't have the design done in one day?

Have you taken a glance at other people interested in the license?

Let me dig back a bit...Carsten Strehse of SSE, a much younger and more inexperience company than Bethesda, stated he had some interest in the license. When he did, and this was before any negotiations could even begin, he clearly stated that he intended to stay true to Fallout, by making a non-online PC-only turn-based game.

That's not digging too deep. Those are basic decisions you have to make. Either you stay true to Fallout, or you don't. This is something you have to decide not before you buy a license, but before you even start negotiating. Bethesda has been in the industry for a long time, do you really expect me to buy that they spend millions on a license without knowing which direction they want to take it in.

But, and this may sound harsh, this is not really about them being fans. If Bethesda were fans, they would've let the license go to Troika. But it's all about the money...

What? They've run a Fallout site for a few years, therefore they know what they're talking about when it comes to Bethesda's plans for the license? Huh?

You're new to the industry, huh?

After you've been around long enough, you learn to read between the lines and dig out what someone really is saying, or trying not to say

That's not just it...Bethesda is bringing this all on themselves. There're some simply design decisions that should have already been made and made public. The fact that they haven't announced such decisions means we have to assume the worst.

Oh sorry, I didn't realize posting a definition was ignorant. Or is that dictionary wrong? If you find a different definition of isometric perspective, I'd love to see it.

"isometric perspective" classically pertains to schematics, and are thus set in stone. But you can't copy that straight onto gaming. The fact is, just like a dictionary won't give a good definition of first person view, it will have some trouble with isometric view.

Still, it's an accepted fact that in gaming, isometric view pertains to angles, not to camera movements

 

[Briosafreak]

I must protest, you can`t leave trolls post more than a couple of times, if not this will become the same as the Bethesda forum, where a simple idea is submerged by stupidity in an almost imediately. Do keep a firmer grip at least for these first days, leaving space for pro-Bethesda folks, but cutting trolls on site.

 

[extarbags]

Re: Kharn

Two things: First, I don't know if you noticed or not, but you didn't post a definition of isometric perspective anywhere in there. So really, there was no point to posting all those other definitions at all.

Second, I find it hilarious that you think that posting on a fanboy forum places you "in the industry."

Re: Briosafreak

Once again, I love how I'm the troll, when I'm the only guy here who isn't freaking out and saying the game will be crap and talking about setting Bethesda's offices on fire. You guys are too much.

 

[Odin]

And that's not what happened here, guy. What happened here is, a developer said "We're going to make a game," to which you replied "THAT'S SHIT! FPS'S ARE STUPID AND CONSOLE GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!"

erm..what did I just say, if a dev wants to make a shitty decision, we will call it shit... Which is what happened...

KTHNXBYE extarbags, I warned you several times. You're clearly just baiting and trolling, so git..

 

[Roshambo]

Wow. I'm going to be banned for "trolling," which is apparently being the only person here who doesn't make rash assumptions and talk shit on Bethesda?

No, you're just too dense to see how it would affect the game design. Isometric is a possibility of a controlled camera, but even controlled is preferable than what would turn this game into "Vault Raider".

As for talking shit on Bethesda, that's the second time you've pulled out that bit of flamebait. As we've said, we don't mind Bethesda, in fact we enjoy their games for what they are. Fallout is good in what it does. Making Fallout into what they do best, which would infer mechanics similar to what they've done in the past and "have done well". Arena/Daggerfall/Morrwind are what they have done well.

This is coming from their PR guy, though I wish they all would get on the same page, and this deal has been in consideration for some time. What, are you stupid enough to think that they just suddenly decided to buy Fallout in the span of a day?

Don't bother re-reregistering to answer that, as I already know the answer.

Second, I find it hilarious that you think that posting on a fanboy forum places you "in the industry."

This is just a haobby for a lot of us, some of us also have industry experience, and I have a feeling we've had more meaningful dialogs with the devs than you have had with your parents.

Your stupidity offends me. Goodbye.

Also, to coin a term of infamy for this title...Daggerfallout!

 

[Thorgrimm]

Or perhaps Rosh, they were thinking of calling it The Elders Scroll of Fallout! The friggin twits!



Cheers Thorgrimm

 

[Will_c]

Re: Kharn

Once again, I love how I'm the troll, when I'm the only guy here who isn't freaking out and saying the game will be crap and talking about setting Bethesda's offices on fire. You guys are too much.

I don't know where he got the idea that we all think it is going to be crap.. from what i can tell the majority is sceptical, at worst, and that's about it.
Let this person be a lesson to all those new people signing up lately on how not to behave. having an opinion and discusion is an accepted thing, but he just got insulting..

 

[Sarkus]

So, why exactly did Bethesda go after this license, and even decide to increase their bid? And don't give the standard "money" answer. That makes no sense. The failure of FOBOS should make it very clear that just slapping "Fallout" on something won't make any money.

I doubt Bethesda would have shelled out money for the Fallout license without the intent to do something that would appeal to the existing fanbase.

Visit message boards other than this one. You'll see that the response by Fallout fans to the possiblity that Bethesda's Fallout 3 might not be an isometric turn-based game is not so universally negative as it appears to be here.

 

[Palmtree]

Summary of the thread so far:

The fanboi emperor has no clothes!

OMFG ban him, ban him, ban him!

Seriously, extarbags was a bit flippant, but banning him for saying that just maybe it wasn't some kind of disaster that Bethesda could revive a franchise that was almost dead and that you lot acting like you had some kind of divine insight on how a proper Fallout game should be is just ridiculous, that's plain arrogant.