My countrymen are scaring the shit out of me. Anyone who can read Dutch should <a href="http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/49532
">read this and be really fucking scared.</a>
Basically, the article says "Geert Wilders is an extremist, and what he wants sometimes does not belong in any democratic state", this is stated by several scientists, and is based on Wilders' claiming that he wants to have so-called 'emergency-laws' to be able to throw muslim-extremists out of the country without them having done anything, and on his regarding non-ethnic Dutch as not being real Dutch citizens.
Reasonable "news" post, but the reactions of all the people there are what's scaring me. They consist largely of "Maybe he is an extremist, but he's right!" and "It's those people's own fault, they all suck. But hey, I'm not a racist, I have no problems with Asian people". and "The Islam is oppressive, just look at those muslim countries!".
And then it starts on a tangent about "They're all just demonising" and "Those idiots don't have any arguments, so they do this!"
Hah. Fuck that. I hate these people. They go around after incidents like the murder on Theo van Gogh completely changing their vision (Hey, most of the stuff being said would've been completely hated a couple of months ago), and then looking back at older times and saying things like "Those PC times were completely suffocating" and "They all fucked it up" (They usually being either a non-descript group of people in the government, or the previous governments, who were praised a lot while they were still in power). Bloody idiotic hypocritics.
Okay, so on to the issue I want to bring up:
How should right-wing extremism be confronted?
Throwing around the terms 'right-wing extremism' and using other scare tactics similar to that only enrages people, and is also very dishonest, since the people doing that usually claim the moral and logical higher ground, but then use that to slander. We've seen this before in the Netherlands, and it worked only partly once, I doubt it'll work at all again. It's a hypocritical and silly tactic, to boot. It's also what the Belgian government is trying to do to Vlaams Blok/Belang, and that obviously isn't working.
So I suggest that going into a dialogue with them is best. Sure, maybe they're a bunch of thick-headed who won't change their views, but that only goes for the hard core. Remember that most people wouldn't even have thought of right-wing extremism a few years back, and that they themselves have been convinced of the rights of this political conviction. If people are convinced once, they can be convinced again.
So: whenever you see right-wing extremist opinions, do not start to talk about Hitler or other extremists and compare those views with them, but discuss why the views are incorrect instead. This means that you approach these people on an equal footing, giving them no reason to exclaim 'demonising', and it shows that you are willing to think about and discuss this subject rationally, and this is something people should be able to respect, especially after they've been shouting 'they're all demonising us!' for weeks in a row.
">read this and be really fucking scared.</a>
Basically, the article says "Geert Wilders is an extremist, and what he wants sometimes does not belong in any democratic state", this is stated by several scientists, and is based on Wilders' claiming that he wants to have so-called 'emergency-laws' to be able to throw muslim-extremists out of the country without them having done anything, and on his regarding non-ethnic Dutch as not being real Dutch citizens.
Reasonable "news" post, but the reactions of all the people there are what's scaring me. They consist largely of "Maybe he is an extremist, but he's right!" and "It's those people's own fault, they all suck. But hey, I'm not a racist, I have no problems with Asian people". and "The Islam is oppressive, just look at those muslim countries!".
And then it starts on a tangent about "They're all just demonising" and "Those idiots don't have any arguments, so they do this!"
Hah. Fuck that. I hate these people. They go around after incidents like the murder on Theo van Gogh completely changing their vision (Hey, most of the stuff being said would've been completely hated a couple of months ago), and then looking back at older times and saying things like "Those PC times were completely suffocating" and "They all fucked it up" (They usually being either a non-descript group of people in the government, or the previous governments, who were praised a lot while they were still in power). Bloody idiotic hypocritics.
Okay, so on to the issue I want to bring up:
How should right-wing extremism be confronted?
Throwing around the terms 'right-wing extremism' and using other scare tactics similar to that only enrages people, and is also very dishonest, since the people doing that usually claim the moral and logical higher ground, but then use that to slander. We've seen this before in the Netherlands, and it worked only partly once, I doubt it'll work at all again. It's a hypocritical and silly tactic, to boot. It's also what the Belgian government is trying to do to Vlaams Blok/Belang, and that obviously isn't working.
So I suggest that going into a dialogue with them is best. Sure, maybe they're a bunch of thick-headed who won't change their views, but that only goes for the hard core. Remember that most people wouldn't even have thought of right-wing extremism a few years back, and that they themselves have been convinced of the rights of this political conviction. If people are convinced once, they can be convinced again.
So: whenever you see right-wing extremist opinions, do not start to talk about Hitler or other extremists and compare those views with them, but discuss why the views are incorrect instead. This means that you approach these people on an equal footing, giving them no reason to exclaim 'demonising', and it shows that you are willing to think about and discuss this subject rationally, and this is something people should be able to respect, especially after they've been shouting 'they're all demonising us!' for weeks in a row.
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