TheRatKing
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Didn't you hear? We aren't even animals!
Save the Shark.
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I knew it!
Time to start taking Star-Gate and Scientology seriously.
Time to start taking Star-Gate and Scientology seriously.
Back to the sharks...the Whale Shark - one of the most beautiful marine animals on this planet. If only they could be trained to sink fishing boats and smash their occupants. 
Sadly they are the dumb and gentle giants of the ocean, and the Chinese love the taste of their fins - actually the fin has no discernible flavor, but a certain culinary texture, that our Asian friends can't resist. In truth, it's the money they can't resist, shark fins make huge profits for the dealers in Hong Kong, billions...
Sadly they are the dumb and gentle giants of the ocean, and the Chinese love the taste of their fins - actually the fin has no discernible flavor, but a certain culinary texture, that our Asian friends can't resist. In truth, it's the money they can't resist, shark fins make huge profits for the dealers in Hong Kong, billions...
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Some researchers believed that from 1996 to 2000, 26 to 73 million sharks were traded yearly. The annual median for the period was 38 million, nearly four times more than the UN estimates, but considerably lower than those of many conservationists.[7] Shark fins are a billion dollar industry.[32]
Major declines in shark populations have been recorded in recent years—some species have been depleted by over 90% over the past 20–30 years, with a population decline of 70% not being unusual.[33] Only a small amount of the shark is actually kept. In a process called finning, the fins are cut from living sharks.[34] After the fins have been cut off, the remainder of the fish, which is often still alive, is thrown back into the sea.[34] When returned to the ocean, the finless shark is unable to swim, and sinks to the ocean bottom and dies a slow death.[35]
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.Pixote. said:Back to the sharks...the Whale Shark - one of the most useless marine animals on this planet. If only they could be trained to eat Surfers and smash UN flag ships.
FYP
To receive a decisive opinion on the subject of sharks and killing surfers, it would be best to turn our debate over to a third party.
For a fair an balanced opinion on the subject of surfers and sharks, we shall turn to a famous greaser.
Fonzie, what is your opinion on surfers and sharks?
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Right. Debate over.
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Is it just me, or did NMA become fun again?
See, Fonzie has class and water-skies. He would NEVER surf.
See, Fonzie has class and water-skies. He would NEVER surf.
.Pixote. said:Back to the sharks...the Whale Shark - one of the most beautiful marine animals on this planet. If only they could be trained to sink fishing boats and smash their occupants.
Well crap, horrible news. Next time I'm in China gotta make it an objective to try some shark-fin, otherwise that may well be the last chance to do so.
TheRatKing
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It's the invasion of the Orderites!))<>(( said:
well if they make everyone who is posting in the order forum an orderite then its no surprise since at some point all of NMA will become the Order ...
Sheesh.
Sheesh.
I'd save whales first ... and Siberian tigers .
But i agree everyone needs to feed and coastal countries like Japan hunt the most in oceans .
What i don't understand is how can a human living in 21st century (free information age) with open Internet and millions of libraries or TV natural channels kill any animal to extinction for "natural" medicine (like dick size increase) or jewelry . The only way to work for money is to kill others ? I thought that's only viable in Fallout where you have save and load game options .
But i agree everyone needs to feed and coastal countries like Japan hunt the most in oceans .
What i don't understand is how can a human living in 21st century (free information age) with open Internet and millions of libraries or TV natural channels kill any animal to extinction for "natural" medicine (like dick size increase) or jewelry . The only way to work for money is to kill others ? I thought that's only viable in Fallout where you have save and load game options .
One thing marine biologist have noted, in those areas where shark numbers have been dramatically reduced, the overall fish populations have collapsed. The theory is the shark is the critical factor in keeping the fish numbers in check - when the medium fish population reaches a certain size, the shark population increases and help reduce those fish numbers. That ensures the smaller fish aren't reduced too much by the medium fish, and so fourth.
When you remove the shark, the balance is destroyed - as a consequence there are now regions in the oceans where practically no surface fish exist (marine deserts - climate change is also a factor)...there will probably always be the deep sea varieties.
There are almost 400+ varieties of shark - 4 are man eaters.
When you remove the shark, the balance is destroyed - as a consequence there are now regions in the oceans where practically no surface fish exist (marine deserts - climate change is also a factor)...there will probably always be the deep sea varieties.
There are almost 400+ varieties of shark - 4 are man eaters.
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o There are 475 different species of Sharks in the world's oceans and coastal waters, only 15% of the shark species inhabit coastal waters or shallow depths where anyone would encounter these species. 400 of the 475 total species of sharks are smaller then 6.5FT in length and 50% of that 400 grow smaller then 3.5FT in length. It is not true that the larger the shark the more likely it is to attack Humans, the largest sharks like the Whale Shark and Basking Shark feed on Plankton and are docile creatures.
o In all of the shark species, there are 4 species which have been responsible for 85% of all Shark attacks. The Species are the Great White Shark, the Tiger Shark, the Bull Shark and the Great Hammerhead Shark.
o On a worldwide average there are less then 75 shark attacks per year and only 2% of them fatal.
Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into our side, Chief. We was comin' back from the island of Tinian to Leyte... just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb.
Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes. Didn't see the first dolphin for about a half an hour. Bottlenose. 13-footer. You know how you know that when you're in the water, Chief? You tell by looking from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn't know, was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us overdue for a week.
Very first light, Chief, dolphins come cruisin', so we formed ourselves into tight groups. You know, it was kinda like old squares in the battle like you see in the calendar named "The Battle of Waterloo" and the idea was: dolphin comes to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and screamin' and sometimes the dolphin go away... but sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that dolphin he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a dolphin... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin' and the hollerin', they all come in and they... rip you to pieces.
You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many dolphins, maybe a thousand. I know how many men, they averaged six an hour. On Thursday morning, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain's mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. Bobbed up, down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist. Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Hooper, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us... he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Hooper. Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY comes down and starts to pick us up.
You know that was the time I was most frightened... waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the dolphins took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes. Didn't see the first dolphin for about a half an hour. Bottlenose. 13-footer. You know how you know that when you're in the water, Chief? You tell by looking from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn't know, was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn't even list us overdue for a week.
Very first light, Chief, dolphins come cruisin', so we formed ourselves into tight groups. You know, it was kinda like old squares in the battle like you see in the calendar named "The Battle of Waterloo" and the idea was: dolphin comes to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin' and hollerin' and screamin' and sometimes the dolphin go away... but sometimes he wouldn't go away. Sometimes that dolphin he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a dolphin... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin' and the hollerin', they all come in and they... rip you to pieces.
You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don't know how many dolphins, maybe a thousand. I know how many men, they averaged six an hour. On Thursday morning, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boatswain's mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. Bobbed up, down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he'd been bitten in half below the waist. Noon, the fifth day, Mr. Hooper, a Lockheed Ventura saw us. He swung in low and he saw us... he was a young pilot, a lot younger than Mr. Hooper. Anyway, he saw us and he come in low and three hours later a big fat PBY comes down and starts to pick us up.
You know that was the time I was most frightened... waitin' for my turn. I'll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went in the water; 316 men come out and the dolphins took the rest, June the 29th, 1945. Anyway, we delivered the bomb.
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PainlessDocM said:
This band is the best band
Re: the OP;
That's a terrible waste of shark meat. Pricks.
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tell me how much of a horrible person me/my grandfather is because he used to catch sharks for a living for a while.
Illogical. Tiger populations are so low that they already only play a fringe role in the ego system. I.e. the damage is done. The tiger's role in the ecosystem *should* be significant, however it isn't and hasn't been for some time. This is unlikely to change in the near future, hence tigers are irrelevant in the face of multiple ecological problems that actually matter. Hence your opinion is likely based on aesthetic attraction. Now you can say 'but the poor kitty is nearly extinct wheraz sharks are just endangered' or some such. Still aesthetics though, volumes of species become extinct in nature every year - some of which play important roles in their ecosystems - most of which (unlike the tiger) are not cataloged in zoos. Even if all the bloody tigers were wiped out, there would still be plenty in zoos, they would still be bred there (because people like you love 'em so much), hence there is still the longer term possibility of reintroduction. Not so for the uncounted numbers of unnamed amphibians that have genetically vanished from our world, never to be seen again.
Caring about nature is noble. Selectively caring about it, in a feministically infantile manner, ain't.
Have a nice day.
.Pixote. said:When you remove the shark, the balance is destroyed - as a consequence there are now regions in the oceans where practically no surface fish exist (marine deserts - climate change is also a factor)...there will probably always be the deep sea varieties.
Yeah. We'll see who laughs when those "beauties" swim up from their tenebrous depths, when there are no more Sharks to keep them in check...
Less sharks means more squids. More squids kill more people then sharks would ever do.verevoof said:
So yeah. More power to the sharks
The mountain Tapir kills more people than all other mammals combined, despite being endangered and geographically restricted to a small region of South America. The solution is obvious. Sort of like that 'Every topic in the known universe except chickens' wikipedia campaign. Only, we kill the fell beasts rather than vandalize their wiki page.