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Patton89

Vault Dweller
I am currently looking for any decent RPGs to play,be they action or "classic" rpgs.
So i decided to ask the NMA community, as the likelihood of you guys knowing a decent RPG i have not tried is high.
Any suggestions ? Graphics and age are non-important.

Here is a rough list of what i have played :

Arcanum
Deus Ex 1-2
Fallout 1-2 & tactics (and fallout 3)
Gothic 2-3
Baldur's Gate
Diablo 1-2
Planescape: torment
Vampire: the masquerade-bloodlines
Morrowind (and crap fest called Oblivion)
KOTOR 1-2
System Shock 2
 
On NMA I see The Temple of Elemental Evil recommended a fair amount as a good more action focused RPG and I've read a lot of good things about NWN2 MotB.
 
Neverwinter Nights 2 + MotB is a fairly good RPG. Cliche, perhaps very cliche, but still can be good fun. It's all a matter of how tolerant you are to the typical fantasy RPG world-saving story.
 
Patton89 said:
Cliche isnt a problem, as long as it is well done. So ill give Neverwinter nights 2 MotB a try.
Thanks.
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You might as well try the original campaign, so the MoTB will make mor sense to you.

That and the fact, that if you won't have a good-built character, you'll get your ass kicked pretty soon in the game.
 
It would be easier to make a recommendation if you specified some kind of a style preference. As far I can see, you've played pretty much every noteworthy RPG released in the last ten years, but there are many, many classic RPGs that may be of interest to you. But, since I consider most RPGs a big pile of poo, I'll just restrict my recommendations to a few select titles that I consider to have aged exceptionally gracefully, even putting most of today's "RPGs" to shame.

For starters, if you're into sandbox RPGs, you owe it to yourself to try Darklands and Daggerfall, both great games and both so far ahead of their time that the RPG genre still hasn't quite caught up.

Of more narrative-oriented RPGs (and thus probably more familiar to us who have grown up with the likes of PS:T and Fallout) I can recommend Quest For Glory series (at first glance, yet another goofy Sierra adventure game... that is, until you notice the beautiful roleplaying mechanics bursting from every pore), Betrayal at Krondor (written by a profeshunal author) and Albion (an obscure German sci-fi RPG with intriguing setting, nice hand-drawn graphics and turn-based combat, unfortunately marred by awful first-person exploration).

Most old-school roleplayers would now recommend a couple of dungeon crawlers like Wizardry or Might&Magic, but since I couldn't give two shits about dungeon crawlers, I'll refrain from doing so. Besides, there have been so many releases in this category that you could alphabetically play through each and every one of them from this day till kingdom come and find yourself still playing Aleshar: Azure Armor of Arborean Ancients on the day of the Armageddon.

Finally, no list of recommendations is complete without the ubiquitous Ultima, so be sure to give that series a spin. The first three installments are plain old dungeon crawlers, so feel free to skip those and move right onto the real thing - namely, Ultima IV-VII. Even though many aspects of those games may seem laughably outdated or cliche in this day and age, keep in mind that they are the most genre-defining releases in the history of CRPGs, so much that modern RPGs probably wouldn't exist without their influence. And if you're like me and find yourself bothered by the antiquated interface and visuals, there is always the Ultima V remake (called Ultima V: Lazarus) using Dungeon Siege engine, and I hear an Ultima VI remake is in the works as well.

Oh, and I hear Wasteland is quite popular among talking lizards, so be sure to give that a try, too.
 
I Guess ratty has cleaned out the whole RPG list (with the titles you have provided.)

It's kind of ironic, RPGs and Adventure games are "BIG" parts of the pc gaming scene but decent or good ones number less than 40 or 50 (if you stary from 95 or so) and most of the better ones are tasty but small morsels.

I guess its time to go back to generic shooter and generic rts 967...


Anyway going a little bit off topic, there are a few non-rpg titles that do contain decent amount of story and thinking/strategy. you may want to look at them after Ratty's recommendations I guess;

Rts: Ground Control 1 and Expansion, Original War (we didn't have enough wars so we mad a time machine to go before homo sapiens and make a nuclear war there :)), Another War (I think. Alternate WW2 based rts/rpg/action adventure...).
Tbs: Silent Storm, Silent Storm Sentinels, Hammer and Sickle,
Rpg: NwN 2's new expansion; Storm of Zehir

Edit: Are GTA games considered rpgs?
 
If you give Darklands a shot I'd recommend using some online references to get a handle on where stuff is (particularly quality gear but it's also useful for an easier to use map). Be prepared to struggle through character creation and I always use all of my points every time I'm given them as it maximizes the amount of points to spend. It's a pretty damn complicated game with a very lacking instruction manual which is more about flavor than it is about teaching you how to play. The online resources are helpful but still incomplete, so unless you find some amazing site you'll have to struggle through figuring out how to be able to make a character into a Knight or Master Alchemist or what-have-you, along with some of the controls.

Not trying to dissuade you, just trying to make sure that you know it's a bitch of a game to get into with many, many hours of learning that's tons of fun.
 
I think there's nothing anymore.

That's it, dude. The RPG genre is deader than a rock. No one is ever going to release something like the great classics. No One. Ever. Think about that for a minute.
 
These are all over the place as far as what type and to what extent they are rpgs.

Definitely give these a look:
Gothic 1
Arx Fatalis
Space Rangers 2
Witcher
Space Force Rogue Universe
Two Worlds
Freelancer

*Maybe* try these:
Darkstar One
Hard to be a God
Titan Quest
Restricted Area
Dungeon Lords
Deus Ex Invisible War
Hellgate London
Vampire Redemption
 
cronicler said:
I Guess ratty has cleaned out the whole RPG list (with the titles you have provided.)
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Not quite; I forgot indies. More specifically, I forgot my beloved Geneforge. Fucking brilliant RPG, there.

beverageleverage said:
Darkstar One
Hard to be a God
Titan Quest
Restricted Area
Dungeon Lords
Deus Ex Invisible War
Hellgate London
Vampire Redemption
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Just reading through that list makes me ill. Append Fable and you will have the gaming equivalent of Necronomicon.
 
Slaughter Manslaught said:
I think there's nothing anymore.

That's it, dude. The RPG genre is deader than a rock. No one is ever going to release something like the great classics. No One. Ever. Think about that for a minute.
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I'm pretty sure that was the general feelings of the genre in the mid 90s.
 
Serge 13 said:
Icewind Dale?
heard that it's more of a hack n slash game though...
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If you enjoyed the combat in the Baldur's Gate games then you should enjoy this, it's pretty text light though.

beverageleverage said:
Titan Quest
Deus Ex Invisible War
Hellgate London
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From personal experience I can tell you that you're better off buying Diablo II than Titan Quest. I've heard nothing good about Invisible War, it's supposed to be terrible compared to Deus Ex. I heard that Hellgate London is only good for killing an hour or so every once in awhile, as playing longer than that is just boring.

Other older games to try would be the Gold Box games and the two Dark Sun games.
 
The problem with Invisible War is that you (the player) feel that you are playing a game with dozens of things cut away in comparison to the first games.

'levels' are smaller and offer less alternative routes based on skills or creativity.

'Skills' have been removed, hacking for example is now a biomod and you no longer need to invest points to improve weapon skills.

The physics are awful, walking against a chair can make it bounce across the room.

The story shows some promise but is less well developed than the prequel's.
There is something about the endings that just make them less good IMO than those of the previous games.

Well as others suggest, you could try some of the older games but do remember that sometimes their user interfaces are rather clunky and from a 90's RPG player less friendly than those of later games.

I have been curious about trying Wasteland but I have difficulty playing it as I am not used to this style.
 
In addition to a few really good games I felt like mentioning a few that had either a terrible reputation or no reputation that were not bad. I don't know any old rpgs.

Ratty said:
Just reading through that list makes me ill. Append Fable and you will have the gaming equivalent of Necronomicon.
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I know I know, I said maybe because despite not being terribly good, they do have a special appeal to me. Like shitty movies that are entertaining when treated as such, shitty, these games have some enjoyment when played either with the right attitude, or they actually do have some decent aspects about them. I could not find it worth investing more than a few hours in them, except I did play through to the end of invisible war in a weekend, but oddly enough I did not regret the little bit of time I spent playing these games. I did regret how disappointing some of them were, and wished they lived up to what they could have been, so I humbly offer a check these out if you are really hard up for cheap entertainment in the "rpg" genre. On a related note I would not put fallout 3 on the list with these others, why? Didn't enjoy playing it enough. It is somewhere in between, it isn't good and it also lacks any other redeemable substance. It was too much a of a chore to play for me. Haven't played Fable by the way, when I do perhaps the prophecy will be complete and Cthulhu will rise again.
UncannyGarlic said:
From personal experience I can tell you that you're better off buying Diablo II than Titan Quest. I've heard nothing good about Invisible War, it's supposed to be terrible compared to Deus Ex. I heard that Hellgate London is only good for killing an hour or so every once in awhile, as playing longer than that is just boring.
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I feel the same about Diablo but Titan Quest is worth mentioning. Invisible War was nothing like Deus Ex, sortof like Fallout 3, but unlike Fallout 3 the "quests" and "story" were decent, somewhat engaging, and offered choices and consequences. Not to mention that gunplay was a little more tolerable if not extremely simple. Basically it dumbed down combat and rpg mechanics but wasn't a total loss. It will undoubtedly have a worse reputation than Fallout 3 among most people though. Spot on about Hellgate London.
 
Wasteland is absolutely fantastic, every Fallout/RPG fan ought to play it.

It takes the world and atmosphere of Fallout, and gives it Pokemon style mechanics.
 
Argh. Senile in my old age I guess.

Serge 13, I would like to draw your attention to the "Witcher"

First go and get the "Enchanted Edition" version of the game. (Or buy the normal version and then dl the 6gigs woth of patch that upgrades the the game to EE. Better textures, more optimisation, A new "campaign" with 90 minutes of new speechfiles)

Then go to the forums and look up how to unlock the full English texts and speech (The game was modified for consoles by cutting half the speech and writing present in the game. dont ask why...)

I accept that the combat is realtime and a bit basic (push attack to start a chain, push attack at right moments to make heavier attack chains.) but the alchemy, enemies and locations do bring the combat into a better state than random button mashings.

The story is very good. And as the sore point to most gamers; there isn't a "GOOD" side. Help the fundamentalist, racist, inquisition like human assholes? or help the snotty, racist, vengeful elven assholes? (Or stay natural and piss off everyone? :D)

The fact that you are a "Mercenary" (as in the real sense not the pink glass book sense) really pissed a lot of kiddies. Who wants to play a selfish, womaniser, jerk?
 
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