Jebus said:
Look , Jebus, there it is again!
Shooting rampage in Minnesota
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Look , Jebus, there it is again!
Ozrat said:
No insult, Ozrat, since I know you're a "northerner" but I was born in Michigan, moved to Texas when I was 10, moved back to Minnesota for a year, then back to Texas.
I had "Tex-Mex" while in Minnesota, and I swear to god, they brought out Fajitas, with a side of mashed potatoes.
I can't blame the kid for going on the war path, if he had to deal with that.
welsh
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Jebus- Moderators and Admins should not be editing your threads unless you are violating the rules. If they do, let me know. We have discussed this already amongst the moderators.
I actually think this is actually a case of one very sad and messed up kid who went through a lot of grief and alienation. Jeremy spoke in class today.
And no we weren't going to make this a gun thread-
But if we did- here's a bit that might be discussed-
Those of you interested might find this interesting-
http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2005/03/20050323_a_main.asp
I seriously doubt that any type of gun control could have stopped this event from happening. From what I understand, this kid's grandfather was a policeman and legally entitled to keep the guns.
That said, how this kid fell through the cracks to commit these murders might not be so surprising given the lack of attention or funding for mental health.
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master_of_flamaster said:
I actually think this is actually a case of one very sad and messed up kid who went through a lot of grief and alienation. Jeremy spoke in class today.
And no we weren't going to make this a gun thread-
But if we did- here's a bit that might be discussed-
Those of you interested might find this interesting-
http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2005/03/20050323_a_main.asp
I seriously doubt that any type of gun control could have stopped this event from happening. From what I understand, this kid's grandfather was a policeman and legally entitled to keep the guns.
That said, how this kid fell through the cracks to commit these murders might not be so surprising given the lack of attention or funding for mental health.
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Bradylama
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Poverty in a reservation? Surprise surprise. I swear to God, reservation Indians are more white trash than white people.
And more guns won't solve any problems unless everybody can carry them in public. Did the Wild West teach us nothing?
And more guns won't solve any problems unless everybody can carry them in public. Did the Wild West teach us nothing?
I found it interesting the security guards were unarmed also. Unless they knew some Native American Matrixesque Bullet Time Kung Fu, I don't see how they could have done much against someone well armed and determined to shoot people.
Bradylama
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So they were even less than rent-a-cops? Just hired dicks?
Bradylama said:
Actually one of them was a woman. The only one with any kind of law enforcement training was the first one shot I believe.
Bradylama
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Really though, what's the point of hiring security guards if you don't arm them? If you need anything less than a gun and greater than your fists for a school incident you've got some pretty retarded kids.
While we're on the subject, Lauren I love you. Wait, no, that wasn't what I was about to say.
This is interesting. It looks like conservatives just gained a toe in their viewpoint that the internet, violent movies and violent games produce violence:
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We are leaving this page online as part of the public record. Tom is out of town until Sunday. If you need to contact us with questions please direct them to wade@newgrounds.com with the subject "Newgrounds Help - Jeff"
For those who don't realize what this is about, this entry was submitted by Jeff Weise who recently carried out a horrible school shooting before ending his own life.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/195194
That's some pretty sick shit, homes (no, not the flash, the flash is not too bad, but just the whole...y'know...the whole. Man, I need some Pushkin)
This is interesting. It looks like conservatives just gained a toe in their viewpoint that the internet, violent movies and violent games produce violence:
Newgrounds Staff Comment:
We are leaving this page online as part of the public record. Tom is out of town until Sunday. If you need to contact us with questions please direct them to wade@newgrounds.com with the subject "Newgrounds Help - Jeff"
For those who don't realize what this is about, this entry was submitted by Jeff Weise who recently carried out a horrible school shooting before ending his own life.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/195194
That's some pretty sick shit, homes (no, not the flash, the flash is not too bad, but just the whole...y'know...the whole. Man, I need some Pushkin)
Bradylama
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I thought blaming the media was non-partisan?
Bradylama
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Malkavian said:
Not really. People that consider heinous acts or are inclined towards them will often try and express themselves with art of some kind. With the prevalence of cyber culture its only natural that some of them might learn Flash.
Murdoch said:
What's a hmong hunter?
Malkavian said:
Fuck. There we'll go again with the "OMFG teh internet geeks r psychoz burn teh witchez". I hope the newspaper won't find that. Or.
That's one hell of a small toe. The kid produced the violent movie himself, thought up the violence himself, this does not have anything to do with how he came by the violence, he only produced that little flash movie.Kharn said:
Of course, that doesn't mean it won't be exploited to hell by conservatives.
Meh, the newsbit isn't all that interesting, though. 'OMFG kid kills other kids'. It's happened before, it'll happen again.
I wonder whether anyone will make a Bowling for Columbine type movie this time.
Well, that didn't take very long.
welsh
Junkmaster
They even closed the casino for a day of mourning.
Except recent studies have shown there is no national relationship between carry or conceal and carry and actual gun violence.
Let's see, Wild West might have been called that because people got shot because everyone carried a gun?
As for having security guards carry guns- I wonder how mnay dead kids are you likely to have from overreacting security guards with IQs in the double digits. I think I would rather see a regular cop in a school on a rotation duty than a bunch of cop-wannabes.
The problems with national studies of gun violence is that regional and local variations get discounted. You can't compare the bad sections of Phili with the the middle-of-nowhere-white-rural-christian-America.
That said, I doubt any serious gun legislation would have stopped this case from happening.
Except recent studies have shown there is no national relationship between carry or conceal and carry and actual gun violence.
Let's see, Wild West might have been called that because people got shot because everyone carried a gun?
As for having security guards carry guns- I wonder how mnay dead kids are you likely to have from overreacting security guards with IQs in the double digits. I think I would rather see a regular cop in a school on a rotation duty than a bunch of cop-wannabes.
The problems with national studies of gun violence is that regional and local variations get discounted. You can't compare the bad sections of Phili with the the middle-of-nowhere-white-rural-christian-America.
That said, I doubt any serious gun legislation would have stopped this case from happening.
Bradylama
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Half-joking aside, obviously when people aren't aware of an armed civilian they're going to commit a crime. Violent crimes occur because the offender feels that he's in a position of power over his victims. Why do you think this kid went to his school to shoot up the place? Because he knew they wouldn't be armed.