Sin City - movie

Yeah, but in the chronology of book release dates, The Long Hard Goodbye happens before That Yellow Bastard.

But I know what you're saying. Marv is actually in the bar when Nancy runs off with Hartigan. So is Dwight.

Edit - nevermind, Dwight isn't there. But it does overlap with The Big Fat Kill.

Edit 2 - Also, Kevin is in a single frame of That Yellow Bastard. Forgot about that.
 
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nevermind, Dwight isn't there. But it does overlap with The Big Fat Kill.
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Um, if you're reffering to That Yellow Bastard i think you're wrong on both those things. Here's the order as i see it (in terms of story-line, not published time):

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I think the easiest way to tell the order is by looking at Dwight and Manute, since their faces change during the course of the stories.

That Yellow Bastard is the earliest since we can see a bald Dwight in the saloon, drinking and crying because Ava left him (happens when Hatrigan first walks in). Next we have A Dame to Kill for, with a bald sober Dwight meeting Ava after a long period of time. Dwight and Marv join up for a fight, in which the main guard from the mansion, Manute, loses an eye. Dwight suffers a lot of injuries and gets treated in Old Town for a while. During his convalescence, the events from The Long Hard Goodbye take place. We know this since we can see some frames with Marv in the saloon replicate in A Dame to Kill for, when the detectives are questioning the saloon workers about Dwight. Eventually, Marv gets executed and non-bald Dwight (after surgery) kills Ava. I’m pretty sure this is how the story goes so far, but I’m uncertain what comes after this: Hell and Back or The Big Fat Kill? One eyed Manute is in both of them, so I thought that the later story would be the one in which Manute is killed. But it’s kind of hard to say where he dies: He falls from a window in Hell and Back, but he’s also in that shooting spree at the end of The Big Fat Kill. My guess would be that none of the bad guys could have survived that shooting spree, so I’m saying The Big Fat Kill is the last one.

Corrections?

Oh i just realized i didn't include Family Values. But since i don't have that one handy i guess someone else can put it in this order
 
KQX said:
Watch "The Making of Sin City:bringing the graphic novel" on Sci Fi this sunday at 10pm US central time.
Schedule


nevermind, Dwight isn't there. But it does overlap with The Big Fat Kill.
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Um, if you're reffering to That Yellow Bastard i think you're wrong on both those things. Here's the order as i see it (in terms of story-line, not published time):

*SPOILERS*

I think the easiest way to tell the order is by looking at Dwight and Manute, since their faces change during the course of the stories.

That Yellow Bastard is the earliest since we can see a bald Dwight in the saloon, drinking and crying because Ava left him (happens when Hatrigan first walks in). Next we have A Dame to Kill for, with a bald sober Dwight meeting Ava after a long period of time. Dwight and Marv join up for a fight, in which the main guard from the mansion, Manute, loses an eye. Dwight suffers a lot of injuries and gets treated in Old Town for a while. During his convalescence, the events from The Long Hard Goodbye take place. We know this since we can see some frames with Marv in the saloon replicate in A Dame to Kill for, when the detectives are questioning the saloon workers about Dwight. Eventually, Marv gets executed and non-bald Dwight (after surgery) kills Ava. I’m pretty sure this is how the story goes so far, but I’m uncertain what comes after this: Hell and Back or The Big Fat Kill? One eyed Manute is in both of them, so I thought that the later story would be the one in which Manute is killed. But it’s kind of hard to say where he dies: He falls from a window in Hell and Back, but he’s also in that shooting spree at the end of The Big Fat Kill. My guess would be that none of the bad guys could have survived that shooting spree, so I’m saying The Big Fat Kill is the last one.

Corrections?

Oh i just realized i didn't include Family Values. But since i don't have that one handy i guess someone else can put it in this order
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You also left out Booze, Broads, and Bullets. But you sound about right, anyway. My bad.

Spoiler alert.

Oh, interesting tid-bit - Marv apparently lives through his execution. He's in a story in Booze, Broads, and Bullets, that clearly takes place after the events in The Long Hard Goodbye. I guess Frank Miller didn't really have the heart to kill the big lug off. :D
 
Malkavian said:
Oh, interesting tid-bit - Marv apparently lives through his execution. He's in a story in Booze, Broads, and Bullets, that clearly takes place after the events in The Long Hard Goodbye. I guess Frank Miller didn't really have the heart to kill the big lug off. :D
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Well shit Malky, i have to challenge your opinion again. I just read Booze, Broads, and Bullets, and i can't see any evidence that says Marv lived. Marv's in two stories: Just Another Saturday Night and Silent Night. The time period in Silent night is unclear to me, but in Just Another Saturday Night, we can see that this story happens at the same time as That Yellow Bastard (which we agreed was the first story time-wise). In one of the frames, Marv is trying to remember what he did earlier on this Saturday, and he recollects that he saw Nancy jumping off stage to hug some old man. This is clearly Hatrigan.


EDIT: When I see the movie, i'll write up a lil review like it did for the last couple of movies a lot of us anticipated to see (AVP and Terminator 3). If i get to be first, i'd like to post it in a new thread, unless people would really like to continue the discussion in this thread. So new thread for movie opinions or stay in this one?
 
Generally its a better idea to begin discussion on the actual product in a new thread. Discussions leading up to the release generally concern the making of the movie, and can get particularly large if its based on pre-existing subject matter.

This can be overwhelming to somebody who has just seen the movie and isn't familiar with the current topic of discussion, discouraging them from posting.
 
KQX said:
Malkavian said:
Oh, interesting tid-bit - Marv apparently lives through his execution. He's in a story in Booze, Broads, and Bullets, that clearly takes place after the events in The Long Hard Goodbye. I guess Frank Miller didn't really have the heart to kill the big lug off. :D
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Well shit Malky, i have to challenge your opinion again. I just read Booze, Broads, and Bullets, and i can't see any evidence that says Marv lived. Marv's in two stories: Just Another Saturday Night and Silent Night. The time period in Silent night is unclear to me, but in Just Another Saturday Night, we can see that this story happens at the same time as That Yellow Bastard (which we agreed was the first story time-wise). In one of the frames, Marv is trying to remember what he did earlier on this Saturday, and he recollects that he saw Nancy jumping off stage to hug some old man. This is clearly Hatrigan.
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In Just Another Saturday Night, Marv is having problems remembering where he is or how he got there. At the end of the story, one of the punks comments on his coat. Then he looks at his hands, and ponders where he got "these gloves." He got both the jacket and the gloves in The Long Hard Goodbye.
 
That's a pretty retarded way to imply that Marv survived his own execution. Which you'd think people would notice.
 
It would also retroactively diminish the execution sequence and Marv's story. You don't let a character off the hook like that, except in stupid superhero comics.
 
I think Miller is just off his rocker.
In sin city Marv raves to the female cop that "this isn't some bar room brawl or some creep with a gas can looking to torch some wino"

The torching the wino scene is what fires off the Just Another Saturday Night scene :P
but then Marv would have 2 damn fine coats :shock:
 
The guy who made "The Mariachi", "Desperados" and "Once Upon A Time In Mexico", i think Robert Rodriguez made alot of references about Sin City in the lastest movie, QUATIM. I figure it should turn up all good.

Wait, is Robert Rodriguez directing it?
 
Bradylama said:
Also, how would Marv have the jacket and gloves after his execution?
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Dunno. Maybe I'm just an idiot. I think maybe Miller just wanted to use Marv, again. So he wrote a neat little story, for the hell of it.

The guy who made "The Mariachi", "Desperados" and "Once Upon A Time In Mexico", i think Robert Rodriguez made alot of references about Sin City in the lastest movie, QUATIM. I figure it should turn up all good.

Wait, is Robert Rodriguez directing it?
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Yes.

I didn't notice any Sin City references in Once Upon a Time, though.
 
Robert Rodrigues- I don't know. His El Mariachi was excellent. But the rest of the series blows. Desperado was entertaining, but Once UPon a time in Mexico was just awful.

I liked From Dust till Dawn, but I admit not having much faith in Rodrigues. Perhaps this is an opportunity to reestablishing himself as a director worth paying attention to.

THat said, movie comes out next week. I hope it doesn't suck. Expectations are very high.
 
welsh said:
Robert Rodrigues- I don't know. His El Mariachi was excellent. But the rest of the series blows. Desperado was entertaining, but Once UPon a time in Mexico was just awful.
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Whaaaaaaat? Once Upon a Time In Mexico was the best of the trilogy!
 
Indeed.

QUATIM had its moments, the church shootout when he crashes the guitar and rips out a sawed-off shotgun and the first when he plays his 'guitar'.

Scene with Johnny Depp shooting the evil girlfriend and holding, if i remember correctly.

EDIT:Last fight in Desperado was the lamest fight in human history, i felt conned when i saw that.
 
I am afraid it is going to be yet another one-dimensional shit-fest from Hollywood.

A bunch of big name stars outrageously overpaid to be in a movie with little discernible plot, crappy dialogues, and no discernible character development. Just a lot of pretty graphics, one dimensional "bad ass" male characters, and a plethora of scantily clad hot women serving no other purpose than to be eye-candy. The combination of which will send all the adolescents running home to jerk off, and leave me with a massive headache because of the unreal vacuum of originality and any semblance of writing or directing talent. Just a lot of smoke and mirrors to quickly grab obscene amounts of money by marketing a flashy product that ultimately has no substance. Money made quickly, and movie quickly forgotten.

But that is only one man's prediction...... :wink:
 
One man's uneducated opinion, gathered from watching a couple commercials on TV.

Don't judge a book by it's cover, idiot.
 
Are you serious?!!

Where exactly do you get off calling me names?

I didn't insult you, and my opinion of the movie was meant to be over the top, half sarcastic, and delivered in good humor.... I thought the last line was obvious enough, but I guess you have to have an IQ ranging above your shoe size to get it.

opinions were asked for, and I have given mine.

I have about as much information about this movie as the rest here. i.e.... commercials and fucking commercials..... because that is all that is available to us, you moron. I don't care whether they call them trailers, or press releases, or even interviews with the actors, or any of the crap on the internet (which I have browsed).... they are ALL commercials for the fucking movie.

Furthermore, my opinion is based on past experiences with big budget movies that flaunted their flashy effects, and popular actors.

Examples:

Once Upon a Time in Mexico (all that I said in my previous post applies to this movie as well, except maybe for graphics since there were none to speak of)

Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever (complete shit)

Armageddon (I know everyone creamed themselves over this one but I still maintain it was over-hyped crap)

Titanic (same as above)

MIB 2

Wing Commander

King Arthur (OMG what shit, read title as "raping a legendary story to make shitty movie with lots of eye-candy but no actual relation to original story other than the names")

Alexander (same as above except raping documented history as opposed to legend)

Dick Tracy (old shit, made from a comic, had Madonna in it)

Jurassic Park 2-whatever (The first one wasn't gold but at least it was original, the rest are shit)

The Hulk (for god's sake, nobody dies in the entire movie! tanks blow up. buildings topple, helicopters crash, but nobody dies... whatever... that is not even mentioning the crappy dialogues)

Pearl Harbor (need I say more?)

Van Helsing


Anyways...
The list goes on and on. Even if you do not agree with me, and liked some of those movies then fine.... if you feel strongly about it PM me if you want a civil discussion.

Anyways....

Malkavian, you are a belligerent retard. Since I have been back posting here I have mainly seen you being an attention whore, and insulting people with no constructive input of your own. Practically every other post in the "The Obligatory "What are you listening to" Thread" is you. I don't give a shit what you are listening to, and I don't give a shit what you have to say after I post this. I don't like the way you talk to others, this is not the first time you have insulted me for no good damned reason, and I no longer feel you are worthy of any sort of notice. Flame every post I make, you no longer exist.

PM me when you grow a brain cell, you pathetic amoeba.

To everyone else I apologize for being rude.
 
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