Srebrenica Genocide Anniversary

[Crni Vuk]

They would have been slaughtered. They were effectively hostages there, as it was impossible for them to leave the situation or fight back.
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Yes well I am not blaming them for what they have done. Its just human. You want home, to your wife, kidz, family and friends. Not fight a desperate war anyway. Most probably, I dont know it for sure of course, I would have acted just in the same way. To get home as fast and save as possible.

I am just saying sometimes a pretty big sign is needed to change the mind of many. Think about it how people would have looked on this if the Battalion decided to fight for the inocent people and their life. I am sure it would have changed a lot of things. And the UN would have been almost forced to get in and save the people. If not already for their own guys.

That whole war was retarded from the outset anyway.

You are telling me!

Hence why I would have loved someome from "outside" with enough forces to get in and clear the whole system and try to give new people with fresh ideas and clean mind a new chance. Still today in Serbian politics (cant talk for the others) its not possible to get far. Why? cause the same criminal organisations and powers are somewhere in charge just as they have been long before Milosevic and the civili war. And long before Kosovo. The whole system that is only about corruption. When ever you get a person with honor that really wants a "change" he gets removed or even killed. I heard some things are today a bit better now like infrastructure and some cities are now even beatiful. But still the people and their "oppinion" about the wars in general or the outside world is pretty bitter and uneducated.

 

[Sander]

Yes well I am not blaming them for what they have done. Its just human. You want home, to your wife, kidz, family and friends. Not fight a desperate war anyway. Most probably, I dont know it for sure of course, I would have acted just in the same way. To get home as fast and save as possible.

I am just saying sometimes a pretty big sign is needed to change the mind of many. Think about it how people would have looked on this if the Battalion decided to fight for the inocent people and their life. I am sure it would have changed a lot of things.

Actually, from all the interviews I've seen (and there are quite a few of them), most of them wanted to fight back once the brutalities had started - but couldn't. At that point they had been immobilised, disarmed and made actual hostages. They were there to safeguard those hostages, and not being able to do anything for them gave a lot of them some pretty hefty mental trauma's, and the constant nagging guilt.

But this is speaking from what I get from the probably slightly biased news coverage in the Netherlands. I certainly wouldn't blame the individual soldiers, though, and it is unfortunate that some Bosnians do.

You are telling me!

Hence why I would have loved someome from "outside" with enough forces to get in and clear the whole system and try to give new people with fresh ideas and clean mind a new chance. Still today in Serbian politics (cant talk for the others) its not possible to get far. Why? cause the same criminal organisations and powers are somewhere in charge just as they have been long before Milosevic and the civili war. And long before Kosovo. The whole system that is only about corruption. When ever you get a person with honor that really wants a "change" he gets removed or even killed. I heard some things are today a bit better now like infrastructure and some cities are now even beatiful. But still the people and their "oppinion" about the wars in general or the outside world is pretty bitter and uneducated.

This will almost always be the case. It's a rather sad testimony to human bias.
The interesting exception would be the German feelings of guilt over World War 2, which were arguably due to the country being occupied by foreign powers, and the Allies running a propaganda campaign to discredit Nazism in Germany after the war.

In most cases, though, that is what happens after a war. The people forget about the less glamorous or criminal parts of war committed by their countrymen, and remember only the positives.

 

[SuAside]

They would have been slaughtered. They were effectively hostages there, as it was impossible for them to leave the situation or fight back.

if they had resisted, they wouldve been slaughtered and we'd be remembering them AND the citizens today.
due to the slaughter, the UN would've been reformed into a more cohesive and decisive force and we'd be under their absolute rule and the new world order would've been complete.

all these plans foiled by silly dutchies!

That whole war was retarded from the outset anyway.

pretty much all wars are, really.

 

[Violator]

If there is God, their murderers will surely burn in hell.

[spoiler:fcd1f8988c]There's no god, and they won't burn in hell. They will cease to exist, though.[/spoiler:fcd1f8988c]

On the contrary. The genocide itself and wars as such are probably the definite proof that your statement is wrong. And that the truth is quite opposite from your opinion.

As for the victims, yes we should mourn them and their fate. No words will ever make the things right or get us back to normal. But good deeds and good will will at least help us ease the pain of those who survived and let us better understand our own nature so that these things would happen as less as possible in the future.